• 4-bit MCUs

    From Rick C@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 08:26:27 2022
    Wow! This group seems to have all but died. It used to be very vibrant.

    I'm trying to determine how prevalent 4-bit MCUs are in the world. I know lots of products have used 4-bit devices in the past, coffee-makers, remote controls, microwave ovens, etc. I believe at one time, in terms of raw quantity, they outnumbered
    every other sector. But I don't find very many at mainstream manufacturers. I've also only found a couple companies with less visibility who supply these parts.

    Anyone out there work with 4 bit MCUs? Anyone build products in the quantities of millions where a 4 bit MCU might make a difference price wise?

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  • From Rick C@21:1/5 to Rick C on Tue Jun 14 08:28:46 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:26:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
    Wow! This group seems to have all but died. It used to be very vibrant.

    I'm trying to determine how prevalent 4-bit MCUs are in the world. I know lots of products have used 4-bit devices in the past, coffee-makers, remote controls, microwave ovens, etc. I believe at one time, in terms of raw quantity, they outnumbered
    every other sector. But I don't find very many at mainstream manufacturers. I've also only found a couple companies with less visibility who supply these parts.

    Anyone out there work with 4 bit MCUs? Anyone build products in the quantities of millions where a 4 bit MCU might make a difference price wise?

    Sorry, my bad. I didn't see my other post. I need to learn how to use my tools. :(

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Rick C on Tue Jun 14 18:26:04 2022
    On 14/06/2022 17:28, Rick C wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:26:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
    Wow! This group seems to have all but died. It used to be very
    vibrant.

    I'm trying to determine how prevalent 4-bit MCUs are in the world.
    I know lots of products have used 4-bit devices in the past,
    coffee-makers, remote controls, microwave ovens, etc. I believe at
    one time, in terms of raw quantity, they outnumbered every other
    sector. But I don't find very many at mainstream manufacturers.
    I've also only found a couple companies with less visibility who
    supply these parts.

    Anyone out there work with 4 bit MCUs? Anyone build products in the
    quantities of millions where a 4 bit MCU might make a difference
    price wise?

    Sorry, my bad. I didn't see my other post. I need to learn how to
    use my tools. :(


    You need to get proper tools instead of the "google groups" disaster.
    (We've had this discussion before, and I'm not going to try to persuade
    you again - but I can still hope you'll see the light!)

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  • From Dimiter_Popoff@21:1/5 to David Brown on Tue Jun 14 19:45:59 2022
    On 6/14/2022 19:26, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 17:28, Rick C wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:26:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
    Wow! This group seems to have all but died. It used to be very
    vibrant.

    I'm trying to determine how prevalent 4-bit MCUs are in the world.
    I know lots of products have used 4-bit devices in the past,
    coffee-makers, remote controls, microwave ovens, etc. I believe at
    one time, in terms of raw quantity, they outnumbered every other
    sector. But I don't find very many at mainstream manufacturers.
    I've also only found a couple companies with less visibility who
    supply these parts.

    Anyone out there work with 4 bit MCUs? Anyone build products in the
    quantities of millions where a 4 bit MCU might make a difference
    price wise?

    Sorry, my bad.  I didn't see my other post.  I need to learn how to
    use my tools.  :(


    You need to get proper tools instead of the "google groups" disaster.
    (We've had this discussion before, and I'm not going to try to persuade
    you again - but I can still hope you'll see the light!)

    Oh come on David, their web interface is good enough to monitor/read
    the groups. I do it all the time. When I post I do use thunderbird
    so I can have a reasonable predictability of what my post will look
    like, but for just looking at "what's up" the browser via google
    groups is just fine.

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Rick C on Tue Jun 14 18:24:10 2022
    On 14/06/2022 17:26, Rick C wrote:
    Wow! This group seems to have all but died. It used to be very
    vibrant.


    Sad, but true. Few new people join Usenet - most technical groups are
    either destroyed by vandals, migrated to mostly non-technical (such as sci.electronics.design), or haunted by greybeards. c.a.e. has always
    been quite small, and most of the people here seem to be quite happy
    doing their work without having to ask many questions. But when someone
    /does/ ask a question, there are a fair number of lurkers who crawl out
    of the woodwork to join in.

    So it's nice to see a thread like this!

    I'm trying to determine how prevalent 4-bit MCUs are in the world. I
    know lots of products have used 4-bit devices in the past,
    coffee-makers, remote controls, microwave ovens, etc. I believe at
    one time, in terms of raw quantity, they outnumbered every other
    sector. But I don't find very many at mainstream manufacturers.
    I've also only found a couple companies with less visibility who
    supply these parts.


    That matches my understanding.

    Anyone out there work with 4 bit MCUs? Anyone build products in the quantities of millions where a 4 bit MCU might make a difference
    price wise?


    Not me.

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 19:02:53 2022
    On 14/06/2022 18:45, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 6/14/2022 19:26, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 17:28, Rick C wrote:

    Sorry, my bad.  I didn't see my other post.  I need to learn how to
    use my tools.  :(


    You need to get proper tools instead of the "google groups" disaster.
    (We've had this discussion before, and I'm not going to try to
    persuade you again - but I can still hope you'll see the light!)

    Oh come on David, their web interface is good enough to monitor/read
    the groups. I do it all the time. When I post I do use thunderbird
    so I can have a reasonable predictability of what my post will look
    like, but for just looking at "what's up" the browser via google
    groups is just fine.

    This is one of the first on-topic threads we've had for a while, so
    let's not get side-tracked (my apologies for taking it in that
    direction). GG is great for searching and looking at old posts - I'm
    sure anything I might want to say about it, I have already said before :-)

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  • From Rick C@21:1/5 to David Brown on Tue Jun 14 10:27:36 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 1:02:59 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 18:45, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 6/14/2022 19:26, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 17:28, Rick C wrote:

    Sorry, my bad. I didn't see my other post. I need to learn how to
    use my tools. :(


    You need to get proper tools instead of the "google groups" disaster.
    (We've had this discussion before, and I'm not going to try to
    persuade you again - but I can still hope you'll see the light!)

    Oh come on David, their web interface is good enough to monitor/read
    the groups. I do it all the time. When I post I do use thunderbird
    so I can have a reasonable predictability of what my post will look
    like, but for just looking at "what's up" the browser via google
    groups is just fine.
    This is one of the first on-topic threads we've had for a while, so
    let's not get side-tracked (my apologies for taking it in that
    direction). GG is great for searching and looking at old posts - I'm
    sure anything I might want to say about it, I have already said before :-)

    What part of -this post was an accident- do you not understand??? The OTHER thread is the post people are replying to. This thread needs to be ignored. We don't need two on the same topic.

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Rick C on Tue Jun 14 22:41:49 2022
    On 14/06/2022 19:27, Rick C wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 1:02:59 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 18:45, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 6/14/2022 19:26, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 17:28, Rick C wrote:

    Sorry, my bad. I didn't see my other post. I need to learn
    how to use my tools. :(


    You need to get proper tools instead of the "google groups"
    disaster. (We've had this discussion before, and I'm not going
    to try to persuade you again - but I can still hope you'll see
    the light!)

    Oh come on David, their web interface is good enough to
    monitor/read the groups. I do it all the time. When I post I do
    use thunderbird so I can have a reasonable predictability of what
    my post will look like, but for just looking at "what's up" the
    browser via google groups is just fine.
    This is one of the first on-topic threads we've had for a while,
    so let's not get side-tracked (my apologies for taking it in that
    direction). GG is great for searching and looking at old posts -
    I'm sure anything I might want to say about it, I have already said
    before :-)

    What part of -this post was an accident- do you not understand???
    The OTHER thread is the post people are replying to. This thread
    needs to be ignored. We don't need two on the same topic.


    Usenet is for chatter - and it is anarchy in practice. You have no
    control of what people post here, who posts what, or in which threads.
    Starting a thread gives you exactly /zero/ special rights or privileges.

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  • From Philipp Klaus Krause@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 06:43:06 2022
    Am 15.06.22 um 06:22 schrieb Rick C:


    We have total control over who we ignore.


    Apparently, there is now a killfile plugin for Firefox that works with
    google groups; real newsreaders had that feature for a long time.

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  • From Rick C@21:1/5 to David Brown on Tue Jun 14 21:22:30 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:41:55 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 19:27, Rick C wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 1:02:59 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 18:45, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 6/14/2022 19:26, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 17:28, Rick C wrote:

    Sorry, my bad. I didn't see my other post. I need to learn
    how to use my tools. :(


    You need to get proper tools instead of the "google groups"
    disaster. (We've had this discussion before, and I'm not going
    to try to persuade you again - but I can still hope you'll see
    the light!)

    Oh come on David, their web interface is good enough to
    monitor/read the groups. I do it all the time. When I post I do
    use thunderbird so I can have a reasonable predictability of what
    my post will look like, but for just looking at "what's up" the
    browser via google groups is just fine.
    This is one of the first on-topic threads we've had for a while,
    so let's not get side-tracked (my apologies for taking it in that
    direction). GG is great for searching and looking at old posts -
    I'm sure anything I might want to say about it, I have already said
    before :-)

    What part of -this post was an accident- do you not understand???
    The OTHER thread is the post people are replying to. This thread
    needs to be ignored. We don't need two on the same topic.

    Usenet is for chatter - and it is anarchy in practice. You have no
    control of what people post here, who posts what, or in which threads. Starting a thread gives you exactly /zero/ special rights or privileges.

    We have total control over who we ignore.

    --

    Rick C.

    -+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    -+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Rick C on Wed Jun 15 09:02:18 2022
    On 15/06/2022 06:22, Rick C wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:41:55 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
    On 14/06/2022 19:27, Rick C wrote:

    What part of -this post was an accident- do you not understand???
    The OTHER thread is the post people are replying to. This thread
    needs to be ignored. We don't need two on the same topic.

    Usenet is for chatter - and it is anarchy in practice. You have no
    control of what people post here, who posts what, or in which threads.
    Starting a thread gives you exactly /zero/ special rights or privileges.

    We have total control over who we ignore.


    Then exercise that control - ignore the people, posts or threads that
    you dislike. If Dimiter and I want to discuss newsreaders on a thread
    you started by mistake, that's up to us. If you want to ignore it,
    that's up to you. Of course you are also free to yell at people for
    making posts you don't want to see, if that's the path you want to take.

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