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  • Re: not even sort of old power, Short Vectors Versus Long Vectors

    From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 6 01:16:55 2024
    According to MitchAlsup1 <mitchalsup@aol.com>:
    So, you (and her) will have to pass over 10,000 of the others to end
    up with a compatible partner.

    For most of human history most people lived in communities of a few
    hundred or a few thousand, with little option to travel very far, and nonetheless most people managed to find someone to marry. I gather
    that until the advent of railways in the 1800s, it was common for
    second cousins to marry because that was as genetically far away as
    you could get.

    It's also a question of expectations. If you expect to find someone
    who exactly matches everything you're looking for, you'll probably be
    out of luck. But if you are looking for someone who matches on the
    issues that are important, and you're willing to work out the details
    as you go along, well, that's worked for me for the past 30 years.

    (Perhaps we can find somewhere other than comp.arch to discuss this.
    In my original message in which I reported about grad student wives
    holding their husbands' places in line to use an IBM 650, I didn't
    hear anything about how that did or did not affect their marriage. But
    I would expect in that era, the wives said, yeah, whatever, grabbed
    their blankets, and groused with each other about what a stupid setup
    it was.)
    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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  • From MitchAlsup1@21:1/5 to John Levine on Mon May 6 19:49:44 2024
    John Levine wrote:

    According to MitchAlsup1 <mitchalsup@aol.com>:
    So, you (and her) will have to pass over 10,000 of the others to end
    up with a compatible partner.

    For most of human history most people lived in communities of a few
    hundred or a few thousand, with little option to travel very far, and nonetheless most people managed to find someone to marry. I gather
    that until the advent of railways in the 1800s, it was common for
    second cousins to marry because that was as genetically far away as
    you could get.

    In the later stages of the Roman Empire, the average (non-slave)
    person traveled more than 100 miles from where they were born/living
    many times in their rather short lives.

    After the fall of Rome, few people ventured much beyond their own
    city/town.

    From "A world lit only by Fire", Manchester.

    It's also a question of expectations. If you expect to find someone
    who exactly matches everything you're looking for, you'll probably be
    out of luck. But if you are looking for someone who matches on the
    issues that are important, and you're willing to work out the details
    as you go along, well, that's worked for me for the past 30 years.

    (Perhaps we can find somewhere other than comp.arch to discuss this.
    In my original message in which I reported about grad student wives
    holding their husbands' places in line to use an IBM 650, I didn't
    hear anything about how that did or did not affect their marriage. But
    I would expect in that era, the wives said, yeah, whatever, grabbed
    their blankets, and groused with each other about what a stupid setup
    it was.)

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  • From Thomas Koenig@21:1/5 to John Levine on Mon May 6 20:53:40 2024
    John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb:
    According to MitchAlsup1 <mitchalsup@aol.com>:
    So, you (and her) will have to pass over 10,000 of the others to end
    up with a compatible partner.

    For most of human history most people lived in communities of a few
    hundred or a few thousand, with little option to travel very far, and nonetheless most people managed to find someone to marry.

    Genetic investigations have turned up an interesting fact: The
    mitrochoncial chromosomes (to track the pure female line) tended
    to spread out geographically, the Y chromosomes (to track the pure
    male line) tended to stay in place, at least in Europe.

    The explanation was that women tended to marry into the next
    village, men tended to stay in place.

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