• Perception of lag (Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an archit

    From John Dallman@21:1/5 to Mathisen on Thu Sep 19 09:00:00 2024
    In article <vcgjns$g1mt$1@dont-email.me>, terje.mathisen@tmsw.no (Terje Mathisen) wrote:

    My cousin Nils has hearing loss after a lifetime spent in studios
    and playing music, he can't use the offered hearing aids because
    they add 3-4 ms of latency. (Something which he noticed
    _immediately_ when first trying a pair.)

    I get similar problems using cameras with electronic viewfinders after
    decades of optical ones. I suspect it's not the absolute lag that gets
    noticed, but the offset between when your fingers do something, and the
    signal reaches your senses.

    John

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  • From MitchAlsup1@21:1/5 to John Dallman on Thu Sep 19 16:12:32 2024
    On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 8:00:00 +0000, John Dallman wrote:

    In article <vcgjns$g1mt$1@dont-email.me>, terje.mathisen@tmsw.no (Terje Mathisen) wrote:

    My cousin Nils has hearing loss after a lifetime spent in studios
    and playing music, he can't use the offered hearing aids because
    they add 3-4 ms of latency. (Something which he noticed
    _immediately_ when first trying a pair.)

    I get similar problems using cameras with electronic viewfinders after decades of optical ones. I suspect it's not the absolute lag that gets noticed, but the offset between when your fingers do something, and the signal reaches your senses.

    I refuse to give up on my dSLRs because light goes through the optics
    in 2 nanoseconds while the screen is milliseconds later. Since the
    camera companies dropped dSLRs I have dropped out of buying their
    equiptment.

    John

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 20 00:59:43 2024
    According to MitchAlsup1 <mitchalsup@aol.com>:
    I am convinced that quantum computers will eventually be good at some
    things that regular computers are not and cannot be. ...

    They seem to be rather exceptional at protein folding compared to
    classical computing.

    I think you're confusing them with recent large AI models. They run on
    normal computers.

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-ai-revolutionized-protein-science-but-didnt-end-it-20240626/

    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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  • From Stefan Monnier@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 20 10:57:12 2024
    The way I implemented it was by updating the "official" back frame buffer, and compare the update with the visible front buffer. If at any time a write to the back buffer did not result in something that was already in the front buffer, I just copied the back buffer to the front and went on from there.

    The only application I use which is still doing something like it
    nowadays is `mosh`, and I must say that it is a great feature.
    [ It's occasionally "problematic", such as when I type a password before
    the prompt appears, so `mosh` doesn't know yet that it shouldn't be
    displayed. 🙂 ]


    Stefan

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