• so much vi talk...

    From Julieta Shem@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 4 21:21:05 2024
    Let's remember a simple fact, though:

    https://sinistercode.com/public/donnie/blog/emacs

    :)

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Julieta Shem on Tue Mar 5 02:31:46 2024
    On 05.03.2024 01:21, Julieta Shem wrote:
    Let's remember a simple fact, though:

    What fact? That there are lots of other editors? I'd guess the folks
    in this newsgroup all know that.

    https://sinistercode.com/public/donnie/blog/emacs

    (My browser doesn't show anything with that page link.) If there's
    any "simple fact" there that's relevant to discuss feel free to post
    it here.

    (But also note that there's quite some emacs specific newsgroups, so
    it might not be the best place depending on what your discussion fact
    actually is.)

    Janis

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 5 03:22:11 2024
    Emacs is the world’s most powerful editor.

    Note I didn’t say “text editor”. Emacs can be used to edit binary files, too. It doesn’t assume that a file is made up of “lines”.

    Current versions of Emacs even have the basics of a GUI toolkit built in.
    You can attach “overlays” to parts of your buffer contents, which modify
    or even completely replace the way those contents are displayed.

    For example, I wrote expand/collapse commands which selectively show/hide
    parts of the buffer contents.

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Tue Mar 5 06:25:52 2024
    On 05.03.2024 04:22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    Emacs is the world’s most powerful editor.

    And I mistook it for an IDE that is yet incapable of brewing coffee. :-)


    Note I didn’t say “text editor”. Emacs can be used to edit binary files,
    too. It doesn’t assume that a file is made up of “lines”.

    Isn't that a not uncommon editor feature? (I've seen it in several
    places.) - In Vim there is (to my knowledge) no built-in support;
    you use existing tools like xxd from within Vim. Not sure there's
    an advantage to have an own implementation built in.

    [...]

    For example, I wrote expand/collapse commands which selectively show/hide parts of the buffer contents.

    Is that the same that is called "folding" in Vim? (Vim supports a
    couple folding methods.)

    Janis

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Tue Mar 5 07:12:00 2024
    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 06:25:52 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

    On 05.03.2024 04:22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Note I didn’t say “text editor”. Emacs can be used to edit binary
    files, too. It doesn’t assume that a file is made up of “lines”.

    Isn't that a not uncommon editor feature? (I've seen it in several
    places.) - In Vim there is (to my knowledge) no built-in support;
    you use existing tools like xxd from within Vim. Not sure there's
    an advantage to have an own implementation built in.

    Nothing about an “own implementation”, based on any kind of dump
    conversion requirement. It’s just of the regular file-editing facility,
    not a special mode or anything.

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