• XEDIT, The Hessling Editor (was: Good article on the history of vi and

    From Axel Reichert@21:1/5 to John McCue on Sun Jun 2 06:48:54 2024
    John McCue <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> writes:

    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://pikuma.com/blog/origins-of-vim-text-editor

    Thanks, very nice article.

    Same here, thanks for the pointer, Spiros!

    I had forgot about em

    I never KNEW about "em". Also, it was not on my radar that "ed" (and, I
    checked this later, "ex" and "vi") are part of POSIX.

    While browsing, I also found

    https://softpanorama.org/Articles/orthodox_editors.shtml

    which mention a whole bunch of (unknown to me) editor beasts, XEDIT,
    KEDIT, The Hessling Editor, ...

    From a quick read, they seem to have mostly died/may be still live in
    very small niches occupied by former IBM and OS/2 people. Comments on
    these "Eastern Orthodox Editors"?

    Best regards

    Axel

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Axel Reichert on Sun Jun 2 07:04:05 2024
    On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 06:48:54 +0200, Axel Reichert wrote:

    While browsing, I also found

    https://softpanorama.org/Articles/orthodox_editors.shtml

    which mention a whole bunch of (unknown to me) editor beasts, XEDIT,
    KEDIT, The Hessling Editor, ...

    Not sure if that “XEDIT” is the same as the xedit in this package <https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/x11-apps>, which is still available
    in current Debian and no doubt its myriad of derivatives as well.

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  • From Axel Reichert@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sun Jun 2 10:09:26 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

    On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 06:48:54 +0200, Axel Reichert wrote:

    which mention a whole bunch of (unknown to me) editor beasts, XEDIT,
    KEDIT, The Hessling Editor, ...

    Not sure if that “XEDIT” is the same as the xedit in this package <https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/x11-apps>

    No. But Debian has The Hessling Editor,

    https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/editors/the

    if you want to play around. It boasts various regex flavours, see

    https://hessling-editor.sourceforge.net/doc/commset/SETREGEXP.html

    Best regards

    Axel

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Axel Reichert on Tue Jun 4 00:20:56 2024
    On 02.06.2024 06:48, Axel Reichert wrote:

    While browsing, I also found

    https://softpanorama.org/Articles/orthodox_editors.shtml

    which mention a whole bunch of (unknown to me) editor beasts, XEDIT,
    KEDIT, The Hessling Editor, ...

    (It should be noted that we shouldn't confuse these with some Unix
    editors carrying the same name; XEDIT is not the same as the xedit
    we find on Linux, and KEDIT is not the KDE editor, just to be sure.)


    From a quick read, they seem to have mostly died/may be still live in
    very small niches occupied by former IBM and OS/2 people. Comments on
    these "Eastern Orthodox Editors"?

    I have only faint memories on XEDIT that I used during the 1980's
    on a VM/CMS system. The only thing I remember is that it had a very
    convenient interface (for that time). At these days I preferred it
    to Vi (that I used on VM/UTS), because of Vi's steep learning curve
    (and me having been a Vi novice).

    Janis

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Tue Jun 4 00:44:59 2024
    On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 00:20:56 +0200, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

    (... KEDIT is not the KDE editor, just to be sure.)

    There is no KDE editor called “KEDIT”, that I can see. The editor/IDE of choice for KDE is called “Kate”.

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