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  • Re: An example

    From Richmond@21:1/5 to bill on Thu Apr 6 12:58:51 2023
    bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:

    On 4/6/2023 7:30 AM, Richmond wrote:
    I skimmed through the UCB Logo manual, but didn't see any examples of
    programs to draw pictures. All I could remember of Logo was Acornsoft
    Logo.
    Then I though, why not ask ChatGPT to write a program to draw a
    square?
    and it did.
    Here is an example I wrote to use the square:
    to square :size
    repeat 4 [fd :size lt 90]
    end
    to poly :size
    repeat 36 [square :size lt 10]
    end
    (Tested with QLogo).

    How impressive. ChatGPT is just as smart as a six year old.


    Do you think a six year old could make sense of the UCB Logo manual? I
    don't.

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 12:30:21 2023
    I skimmed through the UCB Logo manual, but didn't see any examples of
    programs to draw pictures. All I could remember of Logo was Acornsoft
    Logo.

    Then I though, why not ask ChatGPT to write a program to draw a square?
    and it did.

    Here is an example I wrote to use the square:

    to square :size
    repeat 4 [fd :size lt 90]
    end

    to poly :size
    repeat 36 [square :size lt 10]
    end

    (Tested with QLogo).

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  • From bill@21:1/5 to Richmond on Thu Apr 6 07:52:12 2023
    On 4/6/2023 7:30 AM, Richmond wrote:
    I skimmed through the UCB Logo manual, but didn't see any examples of programs to draw pictures. All I could remember of Logo was Acornsoft
    Logo.

    Then I though, why not ask ChatGPT to write a program to draw a square?
    and it did.

    Here is an example I wrote to use the square:

    to square :size
    repeat 4 [fd :size lt 90]
    end

    to poly :size
    repeat 36 [square :size lt 10]
    end

    (Tested with QLogo).

    How impressive. ChatGPT is just as smart as a six year old.

    bill

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  • From bill@21:1/5 to Richmond on Thu Apr 6 12:47:59 2023
    On 4/6/2023 7:58 AM, Richmond wrote:
    bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:

    On 4/6/2023 7:30 AM, Richmond wrote:
    I skimmed through the UCB Logo manual, but didn't see any examples of
    programs to draw pictures. All I could remember of Logo was Acornsoft
    Logo.
    Then I though, why not ask ChatGPT to write a program to draw a
    square?
    and it did.
    Here is an example I wrote to use the square:
    to square :size
    repeat 4 [fd :size lt 90]
    end
    to poly :size
    repeat 36 [square :size lt 10]
    end
    (Tested with QLogo).

    How impressive. ChatGPT is just as smart as a six year old.


    Do you think a six year old could make sense of the UCB Logo manual? I
    don't.


    Probably not. But you don't have to read bad documentation to learn how
    to use a language. My daughter did Logo when she was six and so did my grandson. It really takes very little knowledge "to square".

    People need to get over ChatGPT. To paraphtase someone with a lot
    more experience than most of the people in the business today, it is
    little more than Eliza warmed over.

    bill

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to bill on Thu Apr 6 18:42:01 2023
    bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:

    On 4/6/2023 7:58 AM, Richmond wrote:
    bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:

    On 4/6/2023 7:30 AM, Richmond wrote:
    I skimmed through the UCB Logo manual, but didn't see any examples of
    programs to draw pictures. All I could remember of Logo was Acornsoft
    Logo.
    Then I though, why not ask ChatGPT to write a program to draw a
    square?
    and it did.
    Here is an example I wrote to use the square:
    to square :size
    repeat 4 [fd :size lt 90]
    end
    to poly :size
    repeat 36 [square :size lt 10]
    end
    (Tested with QLogo).

    How impressive. ChatGPT is just as smart as a six year old.

    Do you think a six year old could make sense of the UCB Logo manual?
    I
    don't.


    Probably not. But you don't have to read bad documentation to learn how
    to use a language. My daughter did Logo when she was six and so did my grandson. It really takes very little knowledge "to square".

    People need to get over ChatGPT. To paraphtase someone with a lot
    more experience than most of the people in the business today, it is
    little more than Eliza warmed over.

    bill

    I used Acornsoft Logo a very long time ago. Today on a whim I installed
    QLogo, and typed:

    DEFINE SQUARE

    But it just kept saying it didn't know what square meant. I couldn't
    find any manual. But I read that it was based on UCB Logo, and that has
    a manual, so I consulted it. In the section on turtle graphics I didn't
    see any examples of definions of words.

    People only need to understand that ChatGPT is not intelligence, but it
    is a useful tool. I've also got it to write programs in Perl, which I
    know nothing about. But looking up and understanding the syntax of new languages is tedious and not particularly relevent to understanding
    algorithims or concepts.

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