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    From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 08:54:57 2022
    If somebody are using Oracle Java and have not read the license
    conditions, then now may be a good time.

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/

    Arne

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  • From Knute Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 26 21:02:26 2022
    On 3/25/22 07:54, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    If somebody are using Oracle Java and have not read the license
    conditions, then now may be a good time.

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/

    Arne

    Hey Arne always nice to see you post.

    17 has a new licensing scheme. I tried to read it but it was probably a
    good thing that I didn't go to law school because I was lost after about
    the second paragraph.

    I've been using OpenJDK for all my commercial customers as of late.
    Haven't had any problems with it except for the bug I found in the Linux version that bugzilla tested with Windows and said my test code was no
    good. The bug is still there in 18 but bugzilla just ignores it.

    knute...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=@21:1/5 to Knute Johnson on Sun Mar 27 13:03:45 2022
    On 3/26/2022 10:02 PM, Knute Johnson wrote:
    On 3/25/22 07:54, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    If somebody are using Oracle Java and have not read the license
    conditions, then now may be a good time.

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/

    17 has a new licensing scheme.  I tried to read it but it was probably a good thing that I didn't go to law school because I was lost after about
    the second paragraph.

    The general industry interpretation of the Oracle NFTC license is that
    it allows for all usage including commercial production usage, but
    that updates stops 1 years after the release of next LTS version.

    I've been using OpenJDK for all my commercial customers as of late.

    More and more are switching to OpenJDK.

    Simpler license wise. And free even with true long term support.

    Arne

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  • From Ralf Schneider@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 27 21:01:28 2022
    Am Sat, 26 Mar 2022 21:02:26 -0500 schrieb Knute Johnson:

    On 3/25/22 07:54, Arne Vajhøj wrote:

    I've been using OpenJDK for all my commercial customers as of late.
    Haven't had any problems with it except for the bug I found in the Linux

    Thanks a lot for your message. It makes me calm.

    Regards
    Ralf

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  • From e.d.programmer@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 28 04:14:46 2022
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 8:55:13 AM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    If somebody are using Oracle Java and have not read the license
    conditions, then now may be a good time.

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/

    Arne

    I'm not clear what's changing here. All I knew was Oracle offered Java free up to Java 8 update 202, and anything later is included if you're paying for an Oracle Java product (OAM?). I believe my business has the Oracle license and gets their Java (11)
    updates from Oracle. I previously worked at a small business which didn't have an Oracle based Java product and switched to getting updates from adoptopenjdk,com.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=@21:1/5 to e.d.pro...@gmail.com on Mon Mar 28 08:40:41 2022
    On 3/28/2022 7:14 AM, e.d.pro...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 8:55:13 AM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
    If somebody are using Oracle Java and have not read the license
    conditions, then now may be a good time.

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/

    I'm not clear what's changing here. All I knew was Oracle offered
    Java free up to Java 8 update 202, and anything later is included if
    you're paying for an Oracle Java product (OAM?). I believe my
    business has the Oracle license and gets their Java (11) updates from
    Oracle. I previously worked at a small business which didn't have an
    Oracle based Java product and switched to getting updates from adoptopenjdk,com.
    Oracle has changed the license for Oracle Java a few time:

    -8 (really -10) : free version available (BCL license), patches
    available for some years
    11 (really 11-16) : no free version available (people was instructed to
    take OpenJDK)
    17- : free version available (NFTC license), patches available until 1
    year after next LTS

    What is new is that per The Register now Oracle license audit teams
    now has started checking compliance for Java.

    In most ways the safe choice is OpenJDK - there are plenty of builds
    to choose from as most major IT companies today does their own
    OpenJDK builds.

    No license worry (GPL with classpath exception). Good long
    term support - backed by many companies including IBM/Redhat.

    Really the same code as Oracle Java (I believe Oracle Java has
    a few extra tools and that there is a different implementation
    in some graphics stuff - nothing that should impact users).

    Arne

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