On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:46:13 PM UTC+8, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

On 06.08.2023 15:28, Hongyi Zhao wrote:

Hi here,

Are there some feasible ways to learn, use, and debug AWK in Emacs?

The learn and use part can be done by studying a book; I recommend
then one mentioned previously in this newsgroup:
The AWK Programming Language
by Alfred V. Aho, Brian W. Kernighan, Peter J. Weinberger
A new edition is appearing soon, as we've been told.

If you're using GNU Awk I suggest (in addition) Arnold Robbins book: Effective Awk Programming
Here you also get information about the GNU Awk's specific features.

GNU Awk has also debugging features; inspect Arnold's book or the
also online available GNU Awk documentation for details.

If you want to embed Awk in Emacs I cannot help you - myself using it
in a Unix system context from a shell command line -, but I'm sure

Is the following usage of standard English grammar, as you have written above?

-,

that the Emacs documentation will have some hints how to embed such
tools in Emacs.

Janis

Zhao

Regards,
Zhao

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On 06.08.2023 15:28, Hongyi Zhao wrote:

Hi here,

Are there some feasible ways to learn, use, and debug AWK in Emacs?

The learn and use part can be done by studying a book; I recommend
then one mentioned previously in this newsgroup:
The AWK Programming Language
by Alfred V. Aho, Brian W. Kernighan, Peter J. Weinberger
A new edition is appearing soon, as we've been told.

If you're using GNU Awk I suggest (in addition) Arnold Robbins book:
Effective Awk Programming
Here you also get information about the GNU Awk's specific features.

GNU Awk has also debugging features; inspect Arnold's book or the
also online available GNU Awk documentation for details.

If you want to embed Awk in Emacs I cannot help you - myself using it
in a Unix system context from a shell command line -, but I'm sure
that the Emacs documentation will have some hints how to embed such
tools in Emacs.

Janis

Regards,
Zhao

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Hi here,

Are there some feasible ways to learn, use, and debug AWK in Emacs?

Regards,
Zhao

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On 06.08.2023 15:52, Hongyi Zhao wrote:

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:46:13 PM UTC+8, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

If you want to embed Awk in Emacs I cannot help you - myself using it
in a Unix system context from a shell command line -, but I'm sure

Is the following usage of standard English grammar, as you have written above?

-,

Better ask in a newsgroup were languages, grammar, and semantics are
discussed. Myself not a native speaker I've used principles from my
own language and some basic knowledge. What I can say (or speculate
about, if you like) is...
Relative clauses: A, B, C.
Clauses in dash: A - B - C. (Often written with long - or double -- .)
A composition of a relative clause with a dashed clause: A - B -, C.
where the first part of the relative clause contains a dashed clause.
Instead you can also use a parenthetical clause: A (B). or A (B) C.
or as a composition with a relative clause: A (B), C.
What you use depends on the intention, on what you want to express.
(Some native speaker may provide corrections or better explanations.)

I hope the clause composition didn't confuse you so much that the
expressed content was incomprehensible to you.
Syntactically you can parse A - B -, C. as {A{B}}{C} to see what
belongs semantically together.

Janis

PS: Reading Ludwig Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-philosophicus might
help (or maybe not).

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On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 10:18:48 PM UTC+8, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

On 06.08.2023 15:52, Hongyi Zhao wrote:

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:46:13 PM UTC+8, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

If you want to embed Awk in Emacs I cannot help you - myself using it
in a Unix system context from a shell command line -, but I'm sure

Is the following usage of standard English grammar, as you have written above?

-,

Better ask in a newsgroup were languages, grammar, and semantics are discussed.

See <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usage.english/c/446LFA9rfDw/m/a1XF_QtzAgAJ> for further discussion on this question.

Myself not a native speaker I've used principles from my
own language and some basic knowledge. What I can say (or speculate
about, if you like) is...
Relative clauses: A, B, C.
Clauses in dash: A - B - C. (Often written with long - or double -- .)
A composition of a relative clause with a dashed clause: A - B -, C.
where the first part of the relative clause contains a dashed clause. Instead you can also use a parenthetical clause: A (B). or A (B) C.
or as a composition with a relative clause: A (B), C.
What you use depends on the intention, on what you want to express.
(Some native speaker may provide corrections or better explanations.)

I hope the clause composition didn't confuse you so much that the
expressed content was incomprehensible to you.
Syntactically you can parse A - B -, C. as {A{B}}{C} to see what
belongs semantically together.

Janis

PS: Reading Ludwig Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-philosophicus might
help (or maybe not).

Thank you for your comments and explanations.

Zhao

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