• Re: Google groups not working

    From bart@21:1/5 to thiago on Wed Feb 7 19:55:34 2024
    On 07/02/2024 19:42, thiago wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:48:10 +0000, thiago wrote:

    I am posting this message in case someone else is having trouble finding
    and configuring a usenet client.

    I downloaded pan for client. https://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

    And I am using the server


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

    What usenet client do you use?



    Is this info not shown in the message headers?

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  • From bart@21:1/5 to thiago on Wed Feb 7 20:23:07 2024
    On 07/02/2024 20:16, thiago wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 19:55:34 +0000, bart wrote:

    On 07/02/2024 19:42, thiago wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:48:10 +0000, thiago wrote:

    I am posting this message in case someone else is having trouble
    finding and configuring a usenet client.

    I downloaded pan for client. https://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

    And I am using the server


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

    What usenet client do you use?



    Is this info not shown in the message headers?

    Yes. I can see thunderbird. But I am lost.

    The only client that is working for me is PAN but with problems.

    I tried thunderbird and seamonkey but I cannot list the groups
    (for some reason) on these two clients. I press Refresh and groups
    are not listed.

    If you're using ES then it's tricky (if this is the same problem I used
    to have with Thunderbird + ES).

    You have to install and select 'always authenticate' or some such thing.
    But you can't just change the setting after you've already installed it without. Try deleting that news account, and reinstalling. Don't forget
    that setting!

    Without it, you get a very small number of newsgroups, one of which I
    think explains why you're not seeing the rest.

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to thiago on Wed Feb 7 20:24:47 2024
    On 2024-02-07, thiago wrote:
    [...]
    I tried thunderbird and seamonkey but I cannot list the groups
    (for some reason) on these two clients. I press Refresh and groups
    are not listed.

    For tbird (and presumably seamonkey, but I've never used it), you have
    to select that "always authenticate" option.


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=faq#Login-No-Auth

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  • From Richard Harnden@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Wed Feb 7 21:29:36 2024
    On 07/02/2024 20:58, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 2/7/2024 1:42 PM, thiago wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:48:10 +0000, thiago wrote:

    I am posting this message in case someone else is having trouble finding >>> and configuring a usenet client.

    I downloaded pan for client. https://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

    And I am using the server


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

    What usenet client do you use?

    Thunderbird on Windows 10 Pro x64 and Windows 11 Pro with E-S.  Works perfectly.

    I have news.solani.org as a backup.

    i2pn2.org is better, solani doesn't seem to have many articles.

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  • From fir@21:1/5 to Malcolm McLean on Thu Feb 8 02:03:28 2024
    Malcolm McLean wrote:
    On 07/02/2024 20:16, thiago wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 19:55:34 +0000, bart wrote:

    On 07/02/2024 19:42, thiago wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:48:10 +0000, thiago wrote:

    I am posting this message in case someone else is having trouble
    finding and configuring a usenet client.

    I downloaded pan for client. https://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

    And I am using the server


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

    What usenet client do you use?



    Is this info not shown in the message headers?

    Yes. I can see thunderbird. But I am lost.

    The only client that is working for me is PAN but with problems.

    I tried thunderbird and seamonkey but I cannot list the groups
    (for some reason) on these two clients. I press Refresh and groups
    are not listed.


    You have to fiddle. I had te same problem of losing Google groups and
    had to resort to Thunderbird. And of course now I can't remember what I
    did. But it's a known problem everyone has. Now what is it ... ?

    Settings -> Account settings -> Always request authentication when
    connecting to this server.

    Tick it.

    Now who would have imagined that?


    i used i2pn2.org and some older version of sea monkey (from 2014) the
    newest didnt work so i got a sjot of some old - amd it seem to work
    well, though in gougle groups it looked better imo (i probably will also
    not stay here for to long, wanted study a bit sockets untin sunday then probably will go)

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to Thiago Adams on Thu Feb 8 11:20:36 2024
    On 2024-02-08, Thiago Adams wrote:
    Em 2/7/2024 5:24 PM, Dan Purgert escreveu:
    On 2024-02-07, thiago wrote:
    [...]
    I tried thunderbird and seamonkey but I cannot list the groups
    (for some reason) on these two clients. I press Refresh and groups
    are not listed.

    For tbird (and presumably seamonkey, but I've never used it), you have
    to select that "always authenticate" option.


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=faq#Login-No-Auth


    yes this was the problem.
    The other problem is that in thunderbird we need create an account
    with defaults, then *BEFORE* trying it, set the "always authenticate"
    and SSL, otherwise the there is no error but the comp lang c is not
    listed.

    As I recall (poorly, mind you -- it's been years since I've used tbird),
    if you tick the box after you've already connected to E-S; restarting
    tbird will let it properly auth to E-S.


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  • From Michael S@21:1/5 to thiago on Thu Feb 8 13:22:11 2024
    On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 19:42:19 -0000 (UTC)
    thiago <thiago.adams@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 18:48:10 +0000, thiago wrote:

    I am posting this message in case someone else is having trouble
    finding and configuring a usenet client.

    I downloaded pan for client. https://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

    And I am using the server


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

    What usenet client do you use?


    Claws mail.
    Also tried MicroPlanet Gravity and found it usable, but somewhat less convenient than Claws mail.
    Tried Mozilla Thunderbird too. Found it unusable.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 9 12:42:53 2024
    Am 08.02.2024 schrieb Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>:

    Em 2/7/2024 5:24 PM, Dan Purgert escreveu:
    On 2024-02-07, thiago wrote:
    [...]
    I tried thunderbird and seamonkey but I cannot list the groups
    (for some reason) on these two clients. I press Refresh and groups
    are not listed.

    For tbird (and presumably seamonkey, but I've never used it), you
    have to select that "always authenticate" option.


    https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=faq#Login-No-Auth


    yes this was the problem.
    The other problem is that in thunderbird we need create an account
    with defaults, then *BEFORE* trying it, set the "always authenticate"
    and SSL, otherwise the there is no error but the comp lang c is not
    listed.

    You have to hit the "Refresh" button in the group subscription menu.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 9 12:44:37 2024
    Am 08.02.2024 schrieb fir <fir@grunge.pl>:

    i used i2pn2.org and some older version of sea monkey (from 2014) the
    newest didnt work so i got a sjot of some old - amd it seem to work
    well, though in gougle groups it looked better imo (i probably will
    also not stay here for to long, wanted study a bit sockets untin
    sunday then probably will go)

    Then please ask that in alt.comp.software.seamonkey.
    The current version of SM works here.

    If you prefer a web interface, try that:
    https://news.novabbs.org/devel/

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