• [OT] UTF-8 sig. Was: "White House to Developers: Using C or C++ Invites

    From Ben Bacarisse@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 4 16:39:59 2024
    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to fix
    your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    --
    Ben.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Ben Bacarisse on Mon Mar 4 17:21:08 2024
    Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to fix
    your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    I'd rather see blue-maned hawk revert to plain ASCII, myself. As
    it is, I just ignore those posts as being unreadable.

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Ben Bacarisse on Thu Mar 7 06:48:19 2024
    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to fix
    your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of the newsreader, and therefore not within my jurisdiction of a problem to fix.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    (cat's eyes removed)

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Keith Thompson on Thu Mar 7 08:15:41 2024
    Keith Thompson wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    Ben Bacarisse wrote:
    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to fix
    your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of the
    newsreader, and therefore not within my jurisdiction of a problem to
    fix.

    Nope. You continue to post illegible garbage in your sig, and it's
    annoying. I would think it would bother you as well.

    It does.

    If there's a problem with your newsreader, have you reported it to the maintainers? Have you considered using a different newsreader, or
    finding a workaround, or changing your sig?

    The bugreporting system for the software does not allow anonymous
    reports. I cannot use another newsreader. There is no workaround.
    Changing my signature is not an option.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    My signature used to have a cuss in it. One day, somebody quoted an
    article of mine and included the signature, but censored the cuss.

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  • From Kaz Kylheku@21:1/5 to bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid on Thu Mar 7 08:23:54 2024
    On 2024-03-07, Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The bugreporting system for the software does not allow anonymous
    reports.

    Use a fake identity?

    I cannot use another newsreader.

    How so? What is the difference between you and people who use other newsreaders? Is it genetic or environmental? Nature or nurture?

    Changing my signature is not an option.

    Getting rid of a garbage signature that nobody can read is not
    an option?

    --
    TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr
    Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
    Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca

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  • From Richard Harnden@21:1/5 to Kaz Kylheku on Thu Mar 7 10:20:28 2024
    On 07/03/2024 08:23, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2024-03-07, Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The bugreporting system for the software does not allow anonymous
    reports.

    Use a fake identity?

    I cannot use another newsreader.

    How so? What is the difference between you and people who use other newsreaders? Is it genetic or environmental? Nature or nurture?

    Changing my signature is not an option.

    Getting rid of a garbage signature that nobody can read is not
    an option?


    I think Hawk│ is either woke or entitled.

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  • From Ben@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 7 11:23:49 2024
    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to fix
    your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of the newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in your
    sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what you want it
    to look like.)

    and therefore not within my jurisdiction of a problem to
    fix.

    Pan is open source. You may not have the skills to fix it, but doing so
    is in your jurisdiction (though I may have not understood what you mean by that).

    --
    /blu.mɛin.dʰak/ | shortens to "Hawk" | he/him/his/himself/Mr.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid on Thu Mar 7 14:34:28 2024
    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    Keith Thompson wrote:

    The bugreporting system for the software does not allow anonymous
    reports. I cannot use another newsreader. There is no workaround.
    Changing my signature is not an option.

    Ignoring your posts is probably the best option.

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  • From yeti@21:1/5 to bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid on Thu Mar 7 17:52:18 2024
    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of the newsreader, and therefore not within my jurisdiction of a problem to fix.

    Looks broken here too and I damn do not care.

    I just find all these replies the sig causes annoying. That'll be not
    so easy to downscore. *sigh!*

    Santarella, Easter-Bunny or FSM ... please bring the nigglers some
    bottles of OmmmMMMmmmMMMmmm... and a new hobby!

    --
    I do not bite, I just want to play.

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com on Thu Mar 7 18:09:04 2024
    In article <87wmqenid8.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>,
    Leader Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    I believe you.
    ...
    I don't believe you.

    Leader Keith has spoken.

    All must fall in line.

    -- https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-10-dumbest-things-ever-said-about-global-warming-200530/

    RS contributor Bill McKibben lambasted this analysis in his 2007 book, Deep Economy.
    It's nice to have microelectronics; it's necessary to have lunch, wrote McKibben.

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  • From James Kuyper@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 7 14:39:17 2024
    On 3/7/24 03:15, Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
    Keith Thompson wrote:
    ...
    If there's a problem with your newsreader, have you reported it to the
    maintainers? Have you considered using a different newsreader, or
    finding a workaround, or changing your sig?

    The bugreporting system for the software does not allow anonymous
    reports. I cannot use another newsreader. There is no workaround.
    Changing my signature is not an option.

    Your software results in your signature being changed into the following:

    "Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    My signature used to have a cuss in it. One day, somebody quoted an
    article of mine and included the signature, but censored the cuss."

    As displayed on my system, that signature includes lots of capital 'A's
    with tildes over them. Other people might be seeing something different, depending upon how their systems are configured. Is that in fact what
    you wanted your signature to look like?

    If not, keeping your signature is also not an option. If all options are blocked, what do you do? You'll have to figure a way to unblock one of
    the options. I'm not sure what the obstacles are, but changing your
    signature seems naively to be the easiest approach.

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Richard Harnden on Sat Mar 9 06:23:45 2024
    Richard Harnden wrote:

    I think Hawk│ is either woke
    or entitled.

    No, i just have principles that i stick to. (Besides, i'm much further
    left than anyone who is “woke”.)



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    Indefinite edition!

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Kaz Kylheku on Sat Mar 9 06:21:48 2024
    Kaz Kylheku wrote:

    On 2024-03-07, Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    The bugreporting system for the software does not allow anonymous
    reports.

    Use a fake identity?


    I'd really quite prefer it if they'd just allow people to email in bug
    reports.

    I cannot use another newsreader.

    How so? What is the difference between you and people who use other newsreaders? Is it genetic or environmental? Nature or nurture?


    I looked at all the newsreaders and concluded that this is the only one
    worth using.

    Changing my signature is not an option.

    Getting rid of a garbage signature that nobody can read is not an
    option?

    Yes.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Ben on Sat Mar 9 06:27:44 2024
    Ben wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to fix
    your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of the
    newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in your
    sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what you want
    it to look like.)


    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the software
    saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is opened.

    and therefore not within my jurisdiction of a problem to fix.

    Pan is open source. You may not have the skills to fix it, but doing so
    is in your jurisdiction (though I may have not understood what you mean
    by that).

    It is written in CXX and their contribution system does not accept emailed patches.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    Help, i accidentally built a shelf!

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  • From Ben@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 9 10:40:07 2024
    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to
    fix your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of
    the newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in
    your sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what you
    want it to look like.)


    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is opened.

    Do you mean the problem is not with Pan after all? "The software" is deliberately vague and I don't know why Pan would be saving the signature
    file. It just reads it as far as I can tell.

    --
    /blu.mɛin.dʰak/ | shortens to "Hawk" | he/him/his/himself/Mr.

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  • From Richard Harnden@21:1/5 to Ben on Sat Mar 9 11:56:15 2024
    On 09/03/2024 10:40, Ben wrote:
    [working sig]

    Since you have utf8/ipa working, I don't suppose you could say how to
    pronounce your surname? I know I get it wrong. I'm pretty sure I don't
    even get close.

    Thanks.

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Ben on Sat Mar 9 12:25:07 2024
    Ben wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to
    fix your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of
    the newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in
    your sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what you
    want it to look like.)

    I should have replied to this bit earlier: it intentionally does not use
    the polebar character because the spaces required on each side of each
    would make the first line not fit the standard format.



    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the
    software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is
    opened.

    Do you mean the problem is not with Pan after all? "The software" is deliberately vague and I don't know why Pan would be saving the
    signature file. It just reads it as far as I can tell.

    No, the problem is definitely with Pan. I don't know why it would be
    saving the signature file either, but it is.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    a

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Keith Thompson on Sat Mar 9 12:21:48 2024
    Keith Thompson wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    Ben wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
    Ben Bacarisse wrote:
    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to
    fix your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of
    the newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in
    your sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what you
    want it to look like.)

    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the
    software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is
    opened.

    Is it saved in a file? Can you not restore that file from a clean copy?

    I would need to do that every time i open the software. It seems to be
    saved in an XML file at ‘~/.pan2/posting.xml’ that explicitly states that its encoding is UTF-8, so i don't know why the software keeps reëncoding
    it into something completely different and then reading it back as UTF-8.

    Is it possible that your locale settings are causing your newsreader to misbehave?

    I looked through various settings and found nothing that i could change to
    fix the problem.

    No, i just have principles that i stick to.

    If your principles require you to inflict garbage on the rest of us, you should reexamine them.

    They do not.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/ blu.mɛin.dʰak/
    │he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site

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  • From Richard Harnden@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 9 13:11:04 2024
    On 09/03/2024 12:25, Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
    Ben wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to >>>>>> fix your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of
    the newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in
    your sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what you >>>> want it to look like.)

    I should have replied to this bit earlier: it intentionally does not use
    the polebar character because the spaces required on each side of each
    would make the first line not fit the standard format.

    Polebar? You mean pipe?

    You are being anal about kerning, but you are happy to post with a sig
    that no one can read and doesn't format correctly.




    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the
    software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is
    opened.

    Do you mean the problem is not with Pan after all? "The software" is
    deliberately vague and I don't know why Pan would be saving the
    signature file. It just reads it as far as I can tell.

    No, the problem is definitely with Pan. I don't know why it would be
    saving the signature file either, but it is.


    I think Ben has shown that it doesn't.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Ben on Sat Mar 9 13:19:07 2024
    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:40:07 -0000 (UTC), Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote
    in <ushea7$28prq$2@dont-email.me>:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to
    fix your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of
    the newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in
    your sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what you
    want it to look like.)


    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the
    software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is
    opened.

    Do you mean the problem is not with Pan after all? "The software" is deliberately vague and I don't know why Pan would be saving the
    signature file. It just reads it as far as I can tell.

    --
    /blu.mɛin.dʰak/ | shortens to "Hawk" | he/him/his/himself/Mr.

    Perhaps he is using a "Text" type signature, instead of a "Text File"
    type signature?

    (Would love to discuss it, but in news.software.readers.)

    ObC:

    Gradually being dragged into the new millenium, where I'm
    comfortable with the following:

    char something[] = "writable string initializer";

    And gcc has -fsanitize=address -- a lovely thing to behold
    if it fires off.

    Meanwhile, saw someone in another group write:

    char * something;
    something = strdup("writable string etc.");
    if( something == NULL ) { etc. }

    But that won't work if --std=c99, does work for g99 and c2x.
    The (Linux) man page says:
    /* Since glibc 2.12: */ _POSIX_C_SOURCE >= 200809L

    I asked Google about it being a POSIX extension
    added at that late date, and it gave me an answer
    about the C standard:

    "C9X London meeting update" https://groups.google.com/g/comp.std.c/c/pMaEU_8Rb7w
    _ _ _ _ _
    2. strsep and strdup are not being added. strsep() is out because
    not enough people wanted it to vote it in; strdup() lost on the
    grounds that it would be the *ONLY* function other than *alloc()
    in the entire library whose return could be sanely passed to free(),
    and this is surprising.
    _ _ _ _ _

    Also: <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32944390/what-is-the-rationale- for-not-including-strdup-in-the-c-standard>

    Anyway, pointed out that they can just use an initializer, something
    about which I was clued in by a friendly person in this very group.

    --
    -v

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid on Sat Mar 9 15:02:18 2024
    XPost: news.software.readers

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 12:21:48 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> wrote in <pan$2dd7c$14ee35e9$af2801e3$81014785@invalid.invalid>:

    It seems to be saved in an XML file at ‘~/.pan2/posting.xml’

    That's your problem. Here is your answer:

    Create a separate sig file with your UTF-8 text.

    Then go into your posting profile and change the sig type from "text"
    to "text file". (It's a drop-down menu.) Then, select the sig
    file as your sig file.

    This would have been better discussed in news.software.readers,
    not comp.lang.c.

    I looked through various settings and found nothing that i could change
    to fix the problem.

    I'm biting my tongue.

    fu2: news.software.readers.

    news.software.readers Discussing software for reading network news
    (Usenet).

    --
    -v

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to vallor on Sat Mar 9 23:11:05 2024
    vallor wrote:

    Create a separate sig file with your UTF-8 text.

    Then go into your posting profile and change the sig type from "text"
    to "text file". (It's a drop-down menu.) Then, select the sig file as
    your sig file.

    Fuck. Thank you!



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/blu.mɛin.dʰak/│he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    TEST

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Richard Harnden on Sat Mar 9 23:13:13 2024
    Richard Harnden wrote:

    On 09/03/2024 12:25, Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
    Ben wrote:

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:27:44 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:
    <cut>

    Since you are clearly happy to post using UTF-8, can I urge you to >>>>>>> fix your sig so that it comes out looking right?

    Since it is my newsreader that is corrupting it, it is the fault of >>>>>> the newsreader,

    I don't think that's the case. Here is a test post using the same
    newsreader and something that is probably close to what you want in
    your sig. (Yours is too messed up for me to work out exactly what
    you want it to look like.)

    I should have replied to this bit earlier: it intentionally does not
    use the polebar character because the spaces required on each side of
    each would make the first line not fit the standard format.

    Polebar? You mean pipe?

    You are being anal about kerning, but you are happy to post with a sig
    that no one can read and doesn't format correctly.


    The kerning 'round the polebar would have been my own fault instead of the fault of the software.



    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the
    software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is
    opened.

    Do you mean the problem is not with Pan after all? "The software" is
    deliberately vague and I don't know why Pan would be saving the
    signature file. It just reads it as far as I can tell.

    No, the problem is definitely with Pan. I don't know why it would be
    saving the signature file either, but it is.


    I think Ben has shown that it doesn't.

    Well, that clearly isn't true.



    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/blu.mɛin.dʰak/│he/him/his/himself/Mr. blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    “Ding me.” “No!”

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  • From Ben Bacarisse@21:1/5 to Richard Harnden on Sun Mar 10 00:13:38 2024
    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> writes:

    On 09/03/2024 12:25, Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    ...
    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the
    software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the software is
    opened.

    Do you mean the problem is not with Pan after all? "The software" is
    deliberately vague and I don't know why Pan would be saving the
    signature file. It just reads it as far as I can tell.

    No, the problem is definitely with Pan. I don't know why it would be
    saving the signature file either, but it is.

    I think Ben has shown that it doesn't.

    I think BMH is not using a sig file. The bottom line is that pan can do
    what BMH wants, but he's doing something that does not work.
    Unfortunately his explanation is unhelpful because his sig (as posted)
    is not getting "more and more corrupted" so it's not at all clear what
    he's seeing.

    I've tried /not/ using a sig file and that also seems to work. The
    posting.xml configuration file /is/ written every time pan closes, but
    it appears not to be getting corrupted.

    --
    Ben.

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  • From Michael S@21:1/5 to Ben Bacarisse on Sun Mar 10 10:17:57 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 00:13:38 +0000
    Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:

    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> writes:

    On 09/03/2024 12:25, Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    ...
    On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:48:19 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    It does not happen immediately; instead, the signature that the
    software saves gets more and more corrupted each time the
    software is opened.

    Do you mean the problem is not with Pan after all? "The
    software" is deliberately vague and I don't know why Pan would be
    saving the signature file. It just reads it as far as I can
    tell.

    No, the problem is definitely with Pan. I don't know why it would
    be saving the signature file either, but it is.

    I think Ben has shown that it doesn't.

    I think BMH is not using a sig file. The bottom line is that pan can
    do what BMH wants, but he's doing something that does not work.
    Unfortunately his explanation is unhelpful because his sig (as posted)
    is not getting "more and more corrupted" so it's not at all clear what
    he's seeing.

    I've tried /not/ using a sig file and that also seems to work. The posting.xml configuration file /is/ written every time pan closes, but
    it appears not to be getting corrupted.


    According to my understanding, one of his requirements is automatic
    attachment of random rude phrase to the end of the signature.
    Does your solution handle that?

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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@21:1/5 to Michael S on Sun Mar 10 13:35:08 2024
    Michael S wrote:

    According to my understanding, one of his requirements is automatic attachment of random rude phrase to the end of the signature.
    Does your solution handle that?

    I do that manually, and i do not mean the phrases to be rude—if one of
    them's been, please let me know and i'll prune it from further selection.



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    Ain't nobody's seen nothin' like that!

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  • From Ben Bacarisse@21:1/5 to Richard Harnden on Sun Mar 10 14:03:57 2024
    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> writes:

    On 09/03/2024 10:40, Ben wrote:
    [working sig]

    Since you have utf8/ipa working, I don't suppose you could say how to pronounce your surname? I know I get it wrong. I'm pretty sure I don't
    even get close.

    In English: 'bækəriːs, in French more like baka'ris. (IPA looks horrid
    in most software because a mixture of fonts is often used.)

    --
    Ben.

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  • From Kaz Kylheku@21:1/5 to Michael S on Sun Mar 10 17:15:10 2024
    On 2024-03-10, Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
    According to my understanding, one of his requirements is automatic attachment of random rude phrase to the end of the signature.
    Does your solution handle that?

    You can run a cron job that updates the signature file with random
    content once every so many minutes. Probably daily would be fine.

    --
    TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr
    Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
    Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca

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  • From Richard Harnden@21:1/5 to Ben Bacarisse on Sun Mar 10 19:07:40 2024
    On 10/03/2024 14:03, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
    Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> writes:

    On 09/03/2024 10:40, Ben wrote:
    [working sig]

    Since you have utf8/ipa working, I don't suppose you could say how to
    pronounce your surname? I know I get it wrong. I'm pretty sure I don't
    even get close.

    In English: 'bækəriːs, in French more like baka'ris. (IPA looks horrid
    in most software because a mixture of fonts is often used.)


    Thanks.

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  • From Anton Shepelev@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 21 14:47:27 2024
    Blue-Maned_Hawk:

    --
    Blue-Maned_Hawk│shortens to Hawk│/blu.mɛin.dʰak/│he/him/his/himself/Mr.
    blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
    TEST

    This one is readable, but I still hate UTF-8 whenever plain old ASCII
    or a bilingual 8-bit encodinng would suffice.

    By the way, I liked your website, including the color scheme. Pray
    to not call yourself a mediocre writer: leave the observation to the
    reader.

    --
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    /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments

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