• Re: Should comp.lang.c.moderated be revived?

    From David Brown@21:1/5 to Keith Thompson on Tue Mar 11 09:00:09 2025
    On 11/03/2025 03:08, Keith Thompson wrote:
    I just saw a post on news.announce.newgroups posted 2025-01-03, subject
    "1st RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator".

    "This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the following
    101 moderated newsgroups."

    comp.lang.c.moderated is on the list.

    Seebs was the moderator of comp.lang.c.moderated, but has
    not participated since 2014. There have been no posts on comp.lang.c.moderated since then.

    There have been discussions here in comp.lang.c in 2018 and 2021
    about reviving comp.lang.c.moderated. I emailed Seebs about this
    at the time, and he expressed tentative interesting in seeing it
    revived, but with someone else moderating it.

    My tentative opinion is that it's probably not worth reviving,
    but if others are sufficiently interested *and* someone volunteers
    to moderate it, perhaps it could be done. If it were revived,
    I'd certainly subscribe and participate.


    Subscribing to a group costs nothing more than a tiny bit of screen real
    estate to show the group name, even if it is silent. I am subscribed to
    a few dead, or almost dead, groups - I am sure most Usenet regulars are.
    So if c.l.c.m were resurrected, I'd subscribe - and would reply if any threads did pop up that I thought were worth replying to.

    However, I cannot imagine it receiving much traffic. Many of the
    interesting threads here are started by new people, or by posters who
    are likely to find themselves censored or limited by a moderator -
    without such posters, there would be no life in the group.

    If a discussion group is moderated, it really needs multiple moderators
    spread across times - otherwise it is too slow, and gives too much power
    and responsibility to one person and their subjective opinions.

    So it is hard for me to imagine that it would be worth the effort.

    One possible concern is that if comp.lang.c.moderated is removed,
    historical posts might be lost. I don't know whether that's
    a valid concern. It might depend on the policies of individual
    Usenet servers and archives.


    It also depends on what the posts are, and how much is of use or
    interest to anyone else.

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Tim Rentsch on Wed Mar 12 04:37:10 2025
    On 12/03/2025 04:28, Tim Rentsch wrote:

    I am in favor of reviving comp.lang.c.moderated, and hope a
    suitable moderating arrangement can be found.

    Technical question: is it feasible to have moderating duties
    be shared among several people on some sort of rotating basis?
    I have no experience moderating a usenet news group.

    Neither have I. A few years ago I came close to moderating clcm,
    but I skipped out of Seebs's way just in time.

    I have no desire to end up being /the/ moderator, but would
    gladly share the task if a pool of good folk could be agreed upon.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From Tim Rentsch@21:1/5 to Keith Thompson on Tue Mar 11 21:28:28 2025
    Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

    I just saw a post on news.announce.newgroups posted 2025-01-03, subject
    "1st RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator".

    "This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the following
    101 moderated newsgroups."

    comp.lang.c.moderated is on the list.

    Seebs was the moderator of comp.lang.c.moderated, but has
    not participated since 2014. There have been no posts on comp.lang.c.moderated since then.

    There have been discussions here in comp.lang.c in 2018 and 2021
    about reviving comp.lang.c.moderated. I emailed Seebs about this
    at the time, and he expressed tentative interesting in seeing it
    revived, but with someone else moderating it.

    My tentative opinion is that it's probably not worth reviving,
    but if others are sufficiently interested *and* someone volunteers
    to moderate it, perhaps it could be done. If it were revived,
    I'd certainly subscribe and participate.

    One possible concern is that if comp.lang.c.moderated is removed,
    historical posts might be lost. I don't know whether that's
    a valid concern. It might depend on the policies of individual
    Usenet servers and archives.

    I am in favor of reviving comp.lang.c.moderated, and hope a
    suitable moderating arrangement can be found.

    Technical question: is it feasible to have moderating duties
    be shared among several people on some sort of rotating basis?
    I have no experience moderating a usenet news group.

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  • From Dan Cross@21:1/5 to tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com on Wed Mar 12 09:14:35 2025
    In article <86h63yub2r.fsf@linuxsc.com>,
    Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
    I am in favor of reviving comp.lang.c.moderated, and hope a
    suitable moderating arrangement can be found.

    Technical question: is it feasible to have moderating duties
    be shared among several people on some sort of rotating basis?
    I have no experience moderating a usenet news group.

    It is; or at least it is possible to set up a pool to share the
    responsibility. I understand the software is often a bit janky
    and may need some work.

    -Dan C.

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  • From Ben Bacarisse@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Thu Mar 13 01:23:37 2025
    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:

    On 12/03/2025 04:28, Tim Rentsch wrote:
    I am in favor of reviving comp.lang.c.moderated, and hope a
    suitable moderating arrangement can be found.
    Technical question: is it feasible to have moderating duties
    be shared among several people on some sort of rotating basis?
    I have no experience moderating a usenet news group.

    Neither have I. A few years ago I came close to moderating clcm, but I skipped out of Seebs's way just in time.

    I have no desire to end up being /the/ moderator, but would gladly share
    the task if a pool of good folk could be agreed upon.

    I too would be happy to help, though I have never done it before.

    --
    Ben.

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  • From John McCue@21:1/5 to David Brown on Thu Mar 13 14:39:05 2025
    David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
    <snip?

    However, I cannot imagine it receiving much traffic.

    This is my belief also, especially with google groups
    posts not arriving here anymore.

    <snip>

    So it is hard for me to imagine that it would be worth the effort.

    I agree, IIRC even when it was active decades ago, it did
    not have a huge amount of posts. But back then clc was
    filled with spam, so I went to clcm for a while until it
    seems the mods disappeared.

    <snip>

    --
    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars

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