I recently purchased a 14'" M1 MacBook Pro. Is it possible to find a 'Batterys Included" kind of native binary distribution for the latest
version of Tcl/Tk?
Understand the Apple no longer sells computers for people to use.
people who use them would disagree.
It now sells devices to deliver customers to retailers and
advertisers, like Google.
that is not supported by evidence.
system 7 came out more than 30 years ago.
rosetta 2 provides for existing intel apps to run on apple silicon, and
I've discoverred just about none of my purchased
software that runs on OS 10 runs on an emergency replacement X86
OS 11.
such as which ones?
why haven't you contacted the developers for updates?
apple has no control over what third party developers do.
Understand the Apple no longer sells computers for people to use.
It now sells devices to deliver customers to retailers and
advertisers, like Google.
Once upon a time before America was
Grating Again, you had things like Macintoshes that could run
System 7 software.
Adobe can't get rich if people keep using
legacy Photoshop for free,
so Apple makes new system break old
software.
I've discoverred just about none of my purchased
software that runs on OS 10 runs on an emergency replacement X86
OS 11.
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
It now sells devices to deliver customers to retailers and
advertisers, like Google.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Apple announced a transition away from 32-bit software more than 5 years
ago.
In article
<4bbe59ab-8b11-4fe4-9a37-0c66b02f7f99n@googlegroups.com>,
ALX <a.schoepe@gmx.de> wrote:
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
Understand the Apple no longer sells computers for people to use.
It now sells devices to deliver customers to retailers and
advertisers, like Google.
Once upon a time before America was
Grating Again, you had things like Macintoshes that could run
System 7 software. Adobe can't get rich if people keep using
legacy Photoshop for free, so Apple makes new system break old
software. I've discoverred just about none of my purchased
software that runs on OS 10 runs on an emergency replacement X86
OS 11.
In article <te3cu2$32vk9$1@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It now sells devices to deliver customers to retailers and
advertisers, like Google.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Consider yourself fortunate you never had to go to AppStore.
Apple announced a transition away from 32-bit software more than 5 years
ago.
And fuck you if you were still running installed software.
If Apple can't figure out how to compile X Windows 64 bit, how
would anyone else?
In article <230820221550422007%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Understand the Apple no longer sells computers for people to
use.
people who use them would disagree.
We are migrating to Linux as Quicktime and CoreGraphics frameworks
wither and die.
It now sells devices to deliver customers to retailers and
advertisers, like Google.
that is not supported by evidence.
And you think ads filling screen real estate and sound channels are
okay.
I watch youtube via downloaders because they strip ads. I had to
install Chrome because OS 11 Safari breaks MP4 downloads.
system 7 came out more than 30 years ago.
And I continued to use it for Illustrator and Photoshop until I found replacements. Which break on OS 11.
rosetta 2 provides for existing intel apps to run on apple silicon,
and
I've got X86 not M1. I lost a chunk of bought software when rosetta 1 disappeared. Why should I trust rosetta 2 to continue if I rebuy
software?
I've discoverred just about none of my purchased software that
runs on OS 10 runs on an emergency replacement X86 OS 11.
such as which ones?
Soundflower? Inkscape?
why haven't you contacted the developers for updates?
AuLab?
apple has no control over what third party developers do.
Like removing Quicktime or Tcl frameworks. X Windows.
Why did Apple remove X Windows and then add it back?
Understand the Apple no longer sells computers for people to use.
people who use them would disagree.
We are migrating to Linux as Quicktime and CoreGraphics
frameworks wither and die.
It now sells devices to deliver customers to retailers and
advertisers, like Google.
that is not supported by evidence.
And you think ads filling screen real estate and sound channels
are okay.
I watch youtube via downloaders because they strip ads.
I had to
install Chrome because OS 11 Safari breaks MP4 downloads.
rosetta 2 provides for existing intel apps to run on apple silicon, and
I've got X86 not M1. I lost a chunk of bought software when
rosetta 1 disappeared.
Why should I trust rosetta 2 to continue
if I rebuy software?
apple has no control over what third party developers do.
Like removing Quicktime or Tcl frameworks. X Windows.
youtube is a website, not an app, which is supported by ads, as are
many websites.
In article <te3dcs$33178$1@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
I happen to use Inscape on macOS Monterey (12.2.1)...
...so are ignorant or lying?
Why did Apple remove X Windows and then add it back?
In article <230820221639518925%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
youtube is a website, not an app, which is supported by ads, as are
many websites.
Apple removed telnet. I now need an application to access any
website.
One of the nice things about MacOSX 1 was Apple installed just
about free anything that ran on unix.
In article <230820221641475859%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article
<chine.bleu-A744A7.13385523082022@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why did Apple remove X Windows and then add it back?
the real question is why did they bother including it in the first
place.
xwindows is *awful*.
And much unix software needed it.
Back in the day Apple was okay
with people getting free software without owing your soul to the
company appstore.
In article <te3cu2$32vk9$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
Apple announced a transition away from 32-bit software more than 5 years ago.
apple's first 64 bit system was almost 20 years ago.
developers have had plenty of time to migrate.
If Apple can't figure out how to compile X Windows 64 bit, how
would anyone else?
'XQuartz-2.8.2.dmg 2.8.2 2022-06-30 For macOS 10.9 or later'
<https://www.xquartz.org/index.html>
So the answer to my question is you're just ignorant.
In article <230820221641465790%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <te3cu2$32vk9$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
Apple announced a transition away from 32-bit software more than 5 years >>> ago.
apple's first 64 bit system was almost 20 years ago.
developers have had plenty of time to migrate.
As you point out apple has turned its products into deliver
devices to retailers.
Why did Apple remove X Windows and then add it back?
the real question is why did they bother including it in the first
place.
xwindows is *awful*.
And much unix software needed it.
Back in the day Apple was okay
with people getting free software without owing your soul to the
company appstore.
In article <te3dsg$332hg$1@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
If Apple can't figure out how to compile X Windows 64 bit, how
would anyone else?
'XQuartz-2.8.2.dmg 2.8.2 2022-06-30 For macOS 10.9 or later'
<https://www.xquartz.org/index.html>
So the answer to my question is you're just ignorant.
The XQuartz project is an open-source effort to develop a version
of the X.Org X Window System that runs on macOS. Together with
supporting libraries and applications, it forms the X11.app that
Apple shipped with OS X versions 10.5 through 10.7. How do Apple
forget to do it after 10.7?
Why should I trust rosetta 2 to continue
if I rebuy software?
rosetta 2 was developed by apple rather than licensed from another
company, so apple can ship it for as long as there's a demand for it.
In article
<chine.bleu-A744A7.13385523082022@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why did Apple remove X Windows and then add it back?
the real question is why did they bother including it in the first
place.
xwindows is *awful*.
Apple announced a transition away from 32-bit software more than 5 years
ago.
Why should I trust rosetta 2 to continue
if I rebuy software?
rosetta 2 was developed by apple rather than licensed from another
company, so apple can ship it for as long as there's a demand for it.
Fool me once, shame on--shame on you. Fool me--you can't get
fooled again.
In article
<chine.bleu-E31661.13464923082022@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
youtube is a website, not an app, which is supported by ads, as are
many websites.
Apple removed telnet.
telnet is not secure and should not be used.
what does telnet have to do with youtube?
I now need an application to access any
website.
yes, that's called a browser.
telnet is the wrong tool and if a web site still supports telnet for
webmasters (not the general public), do not visit that site, because
One of the nice things about MacOSX 1 was Apple installed just
about free anything that ran on unix.
it turns out that few people used any of that stuff.
those who do want it can install it.
apple doesn't prevent anyone from installing whatever apps they want.
developers have had plenty of time to migrate.
As you point out apple has turned its products into deliver
devices to retailers.
i didn't not point that out because it's bullshit, just like everything
else you've said.
So make up your mind.
You want to claim that Apple doesn't want you to run free software...
Must a developer continue to support everything it has ever done for all eternity?
In article <te3fc8$336q8$1@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
So make up your mind.
If it's so easy, why did Apple stop doing it?
You want to claim that Apple doesn't want you to run free software...
Once I had to go down to boot to turn off all their crap to get a
program to run. If you had ever tried to run free software, you
would know Apple doesn't allow it with first a session with
Sister Mary Pain and Punishment.
And much unix software needed it.
some did, and it's awful.
In article <230820221700162429%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article
<chine.bleu-E31661.13464923082022@news.eternal-september.org>, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
youtube is a website, not an app, which is supported by ads, as are
many websites.
Apple removed telnet.
telnet is not secure and should not be used.
You don't know what it was used for.
what does telnet have to do with youtube?
Nearly all internet protocols, including http, can be done with
telenet. This allows experimentation and development without
writing special purpose software. This was intentional.
I now need an application to access any
website.
yes, that's called a browser.
Safari doesn't download. After a bit it gets tired and gets
slower, slower, slower, and pukes. Since Chrome and Firefox
download the same files on the same network on the same box,
changing only the browser, you can now reassure me it's not a
Safari problem.
telnet is the wrong tool and if a web site still supports telnet for
How would you not support telnet?
@ telnet www.apple.com 80
Trying 104.68.102.211...
Connected to e6858.dscx.akamaiedge.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
HTTP/1.0 408 Request Time-out
Server: AkamaiGHost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 21:22:17 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 218
Expires: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 21:22:17 GMT
<HTML><HEAD>
<TITLE>Request Timeout</TITLE>
</HEAD><BODY>
<H1>Request Timeout</H1>
The server timed out while waiting for the browser's request.<P> Reference #2.a63919b8.1661289737.0
</BODY></HTML>
Connection closed by foreign host.
webmasters (not the general public), do not visit that site, because
I'm not general public. I was once tasked to do an extension to
get an HTTP page. I used telnet to test the communications before
coding into C.
One of the nice things about MacOSX 1 was Apple installed just
about free anything that ran on unix.
it turns out that few people used any of that stuff.
And makefile bits rot away so you can't still make.
those who do want it can install it.
apple doesn't prevent anyone from installing whatever apps they want.
You haven't ever installed whatever otherwise you would know you
have to submit to Sister Mary Pain and Punishment if you dare go
outside AppStore.
Apple is still okay with people installing any software they want on macOS.
I'm sorry that you find this simple fact so incomprehensible.
In article <te3er3$3348b$3@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
Apple is still okay with people installing any software they want on macOS. >>
I'm sorry that you find this simple fact so incomprehensible.
Mr Prosser: But, Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the
local planning office for the last nine months.
Arthur: Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to
see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn’t exactly gone out of
your way to call attention to them had you? I mean like actually
telling anybody or anything.
Mr Prosser: But the plans were on display...
Arthur: On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to
find them.
Mr Prosser: That’s the display department.
Arthur: With a torch.
Mr Prosser: The lights had probably gone out.
Arthur: So had the stairs.
Mr Prosser: But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?
Arthur: Yes yes I did. It was on display at the bottom of a
locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on
the door saying beware of the leopard.
youtube is a website, not an app, which is supported by ads, as are many websites.
Apple removed telnet.
telnet is not secure and should not be used.
You don't know what it was used for.
what does telnet have to do with youtube?
Nearly all internet protocols, including http, can be done with
telenet.
This allows experimentation and development without
writing special purpose software. This was intentional.
I now need an application to access any
website.
yes, that's called a browser.
Safari doesn't download.
After a bit it gets tired and gets
slower, slower, slower, and pukes.
Since Chrome and Firefox
download the same files on the same network on the same box,
changing only the browser, you can now reassure me it's not a
Safari problem.
apple doesn't prevent anyone from installing whatever apps they want.
You haven't ever installed whatever otherwise you would know you
have to submit to Sister Mary Pain and Punishment if you dare go
outside AppStore.
Amusing story: For things like PNG and
JPEG. When Apple hid the libraries,
they didn't.
You're saying you need TELNET to access a WEBsite, are you?
Explain the hardest installation you've had to do on Mac OS.
I develop to APIs. When Apple breaks the libraries behind APIs,
we developers are screwed.
Not when you get loads of warning.
In article <te3j2d$33ilj$4@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
Explain the hardest installation you've had to do on Mac OS.
Building imgmagick after Apple changed libraries.
In article <te3ejd$3348b$2@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
You're saying you need TELNET to access a WEBsite, are you?
I wanted to verify my understanding of nntp without writing code.
-bash: telnet: command not found
Telnet was also useful when expect was around. Do they still have
dig? That was useful way to send mail without needing first hop
SMTP credentials, the way sendmail can but postfix can't do.
In article <te3iu0$33ilj$2@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
would know Apple doesn't allow it with first a session with
Sister Mary Pain and Punishment.
What program?
Give us specifics, because I think you're flat-out lying.
Idiot.
https://developer.apple.com/support/code-signing/
would know Apple doesn't allow it with first a session with
Sister Mary Pain and Punishment.
What program?
Give us specifics, because I think you're flat-out lying.
In article <te3j0d$33ilj$3@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
I develop to APIs. When Apple breaks the libraries behind APIs,
we developers are screwed.
Not when you get loads of warning.
I guess the idea of 'upward compatiable' is unknown to you.
You're happy to rebuy software every few years.
In article <230820221809110527%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
telnet is not secure and should not be used.
You don't know what it was used for.
doesn't matter. it's not secure.
Idiot. You're whining that it doesn't use secure protocols. You
don't need secure protocols to do the kind of testing and
prototyping telnet can be used for. Get some experience, child.
telnet is not secure and should not be used.
You don't know what it was used for.
doesn't matter. it's not secure.
You haven't ever installed whatever otherwise you would know you
have to submit to Sister Mary Pain and Punishment if you dare go
outside AppStore.
rubbish.
Explain the hardest installation you've had to do on Mac OS.
Building imgmagick after Apple changed libraries.
And how many Mac users do you think want to do that, hmmm?
https://developer.apple.com/support/code-signing/
In article <te3is8$33ilj$1@dont-email.me>,
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
Nearly all internet protocols, including http, can be done with
telenet. This allows experimentation and development without
writing special purpose software. This was intentional.
Got a cite for that?
How old are you? Twelve? Five?
In article <te3lia$33p7a$2@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
Explain the hardest installation you've had to do on Mac OS.
Building imgmagick after Apple changed libraries.
And how many Mac users do you think want to do that, hmmm?
those that do can do this: brew install imagemagick
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 6:51:07 PM UTC+2, ALX wrote:
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
Does anyone know how to install that distribution? I tried just copying the files into the respective folders on the Mac but that didn't work. Is there a documentation for the install process somewhere (I could not find any)?
Torsten Berg schrieb am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2023 um 16:12:27 UTC+1:
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 6:51:07 PM UTC+2, ALX wrote:
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
Does anyone know how to install that distribution? I tried just copying the files into the respective folders on the Mac but that didn't work. Is there a documentation for the install process somewhere (I could not find any)?Yes. It just needs to be extracted from the root path.
sudo tar -C / -xjvf tcltk-8.6.12-macOS-arm64.tar.bz2
Administrator rights are required.
Furthermore, it should be noted that existing installations of Tcl/Tk in the directories /Applications/Utitlies, /Library/Tcl, /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.Framework und /Library/Frameworks/Tk.Framework may be overwritten.
I am working on a new version with batteries included Tcl/Tk 8.6.13, but it will take another 14 days.
OK, thanks! Then I will have another go extracting directly from the root folder.
On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:19:22 PM UTC+1, ALX wrote:
Torsten Berg schrieb am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2023 um 16:12:27 UTC+1:
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 6:51:07 PM UTC+2, ALX wrote:
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
Does anyone know how to install that distribution? I tried just copying the files into the respective folders on the Mac but that didn't work. Is there a documentation for the install process somewhere (I could not find any)?Yes. It just needs to be extracted from the root path.
sudo tar -C / -xjvf tcltk-8.6.12-macOS-arm64.tar.bz2
Administrator rights are required.
Furthermore, it should be noted that existing installations of Tcl/Tk in the directories /Applications/Utitlies, /Library/Tcl, /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.Framework und /Library/Frameworks/Tk.Framework may be overwritten.
I am working on a new version with batteries included Tcl/Tk 8.6.13, but it will take another 14 days.
Le lundi 27 février 2023 à 08:05:31 UTC+1, Torsten Berg a écrit :
OK, thanks! Then I will have another go extracting directly from the root folder.
On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:19:22 PM UTC+1, ALX wrote:
Torsten Berg schrieb am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2023 um 16:12:27 UTC+1:
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 6:51:07 PM UTC+2, ALX wrote:
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
These are still X86 executables requiring Rosetta to execute, not native ARM64 for the M1, according to the readme files.Does anyone know how to install that distribution? I tried just copying the files into the respective folders on the Mac but that didn't work. Is there a documentation for the install process somewhere (I could not find any)?Yes. It just needs to be extracted from the root path.
sudo tar -C / -xjvf tcltk-8.6.12-macOS-arm64.tar.bz2
Administrator rights are required.
Furthermore, it should be noted that existing installations of Tcl/Tk in the directories /Applications/Utitlies, /Library/Tcl, /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.Framework und /Library/Frameworks/Tk.Framework may be overwritten.
I am working on a new version with batteries included Tcl/Tk 8.6.13, but it will take another 14 days.
It is native arm and not intel:
file wish8.6 tclsh8.6
wish8.6: POSIX shell script text executable, ASCII text
tclsh8.6: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64:Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64]
tclsh8.6 (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
tclsh8.6 (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
Martyn Smith schrieb am Montag, 27. Februar 2023 um 14:03:07 UTC+1:
Le lundi 27 février 2023 à 08:05:31 UTC+1, Torsten Berg a écrit :
OK, thanks! Then I will have another go extracting directly from the root folder.
On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:19:22 PM UTC+1, ALX wrote:
Torsten Berg schrieb am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2023 um 16:12:27 UTC+1:
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 6:51:07 PM UTC+2, ALX wrote:
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
It is native arm and not intel:These are still X86 executables requiring Rosetta to execute, not native ARM64 for the M1, according to the readme files.Does anyone know how to install that distribution? I tried just copying the files into the respective folders on the Mac but that didn't work. Is there a documentation for the install process somewhere (I could not find any)?Yes. It just needs to be extracted from the root path.
sudo tar -C / -xjvf tcltk-8.6.12-macOS-arm64.tar.bz2
Administrator rights are required.
Furthermore, it should be noted that existing installations of Tcl/Tk in the directories /Applications/Utitlies, /Library/Tcl, /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.Framework und /Library/Frameworks/Tk.Framework may be overwritten.
I am working on a new version with batteries included Tcl/Tk 8.6.13, but it will take another 14 days.
file wish8.6 tclsh8.6
wish8.6: POSIX shell script text executable, ASCII text
tclsh8.6: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64:Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64]
tclsh8.6 (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
tclsh8.6 (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
ALX schrieb am Donnerstag, 2. März 2023 um 21:39:21 UTC+1:
Martyn Smith schrieb am Montag, 27. Februar 2023 um 14:03:07 UTC+1:
Le lundi 27 février 2023 à 08:05:31 UTC+1, Torsten Berg a écrit :
OK, thanks! Then I will have another go extracting directly from the root folder.
On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:19:22 PM UTC+1, ALX wrote:
Torsten Berg schrieb am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2023 um 16:12:27 UTC+1:
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 6:51:07 PM UTC+2, ALX wrote:
See here: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/
It is native arm and not intel:These are still X86 executables requiring Rosetta to execute, not native ARM64 for the M1, according to the readme files.Does anyone know how to install that distribution? I tried just copying the files into the respective folders on the Mac but that didn't work. Is there a documentation for the install process somewhere (I could not find any)?Yes. It just needs to be extracted from the root path.
sudo tar -C / -xjvf tcltk-8.6.12-macOS-arm64.tar.bz2
Administrator rights are required.
Furthermore, it should be noted that existing installations of Tcl/Tk in the directories /Applications/Utitlies, /Library/Tcl, /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.Framework und /Library/Frameworks/Tk.Framework may be overwritten.
I am working on a new version with batteries included Tcl/Tk 8.6.13, but it will take another 14 days.
file wish8.6 tclsh8.6Download FIle: https://www.sowaswie.de/downloads/tcl/macos/arm64/tcltk-8.6.12-macOS-arm64.tar.bz2
wish8.6: POSIX shell script text executable, ASCII text
tclsh8.6: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64:Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64]
tclsh8.6 (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 tclsh8.6 (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
Arm64. Contens:
~/Downloads/tcltk-8.6.12-macOS-arm64> file Applications/Utilities/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish usr/local/bin/tclsh
Applications/Utilities/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish: Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
usr/local/bin/tclsh: Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
That looks like a fat binary i.e. native arm AND intel.
It is native arm and not intel:
file wish8.6 tclsh8.6
wish8.6: POSIX shell script text executable, ASCII text
tclsh8.6: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64:Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64]
tclsh8.6 (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 tclsh8.6 (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
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| Users: | 493 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 35:18:45 |
| Calls: | 9,740 |
| Files: | 13,741 |
| Messages: | 6,183,425 |