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    From Helmut Giese@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 07:15:57 2022
    Hello out there,
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools? I seem to remember
    that not too long ago I have seen here a message to that regard - but
    my news reader apparently has lost lots of postings so that I wasn't
    able to find anything.
    Any link or tip will be greatly appreciated
    Helmut
    PS: Time to replace my news reader. I am currently using a program
    called 'agent' from 2002 or earlier. Any recommandations?

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  • From Andreas Leitgeb@21:1/5 to Helmut Giese on Tue Dec 6 10:55:48 2022
    Helmut Giese <hgiese@ratiosoft.com> wrote:
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools? I seem to remember
    that not too long ago I have seen here a message to that regard -

    I don't really know the answer to this, but I'd have a look at
    Pauk Obermeier's BAWT and/or at Ashok P. Nadkarni's (spelling?) distributions...
    just vague memories, but maybe a start for a search outside the
    newsgroups.
    Another possible starting point:
    https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Tcl+on+Windows+FAQ

    I usually use tclkits when on Windows, but those are most likely
    not generated by MS tools

    PS: Time to replace my news reader. I am currently using a program
    called 'agent' from 2002 or earlier. Any recommandations?

    Thunderbird (from mozilla family) springs to mind. Not sure about
    how "good" it is.

    I'm using "slrn", which is (iirc) also available for Windows, but
    probably not exactly what Windows'ers are usually looking for. ;-)

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  • From Harald Oehlmann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 12:23:28 2022
    Am 06.12.2022 um 07:15 schrieb Helmut Giese:
    Hello out there,
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools? I seem to remember
    that not too long ago I have seen here a message to that regard - but
    my news reader apparently has lost lots of postings so that I wasn't
    able to find anything.
    Any link or tip will be greatly appreciated
    Helmut
    PS: Time to replace my news reader. I am currently using a program
    called 'agent' from 2002 or earlier. Any recommandations?

    Helmut,

    Ashok builds everything with MS Tools:

    https://www.magicsplat.com/
    which leads here:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/magicsplat/

    There are also starkits build by ms tools within the twapi project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/twapi/files/Tcl%20binaries/

    Ashok mentioned that he is on travel. So, TCL 8.6.13 versions are not
    out jet.

    I will be in the Munich TCL meetup tomorrow.
    Hear you there,
    Harald

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  • From Harald Oehlmann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 14:55:25 2022
    Am 06.12.2022 um 14:37 schrieb Christian Gollwitzer:
    Am 06.12.22 um 07:15 schrieb Helmut Giese:
    Hello out there,
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools?

    May I ask why this is important? Correctly gcc-built Tcl executables
    should run on any recent Windows system without additional
    installations. E.g. I build tclkits on Github using Github Actions, downloadable here: https://github.com/auriocus/kbskit/releases

    The .exe worked on any Windows system tested so far.

    It's not yet updated for 8.6.13 because I tried to include Tclcurl in
    the release, which currently fails on Windows.

    Best regards,

        Christian


    I can confirm what Christian writes. There is even DLL compatibility.
    For example, the tksvg.dll build by gcc or MS-VC may be used by a Tk
    from the other world.

    Great work !
    Harald

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  • From Christian Gollwitzer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 14:37:04 2022
    Am 06.12.22 um 07:15 schrieb Helmut Giese:
    Hello out there,
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools?

    May I ask why this is important? Correctly gcc-built Tcl executables
    should run on any recent Windows system without additional
    installations. E.g. I build tclkits on Github using Github Actions, downloadable here: https://github.com/auriocus/kbskit/releases

    The .exe worked on any Windows system tested so far.

    It's not yet updated for 8.6.13 because I tried to include Tclcurl in
    the release, which currently fails on Windows.

    Best regards,

    Christian

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  • From Helmut Giese@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 16:11:42 2022
    Hello Christian,
    May I ask why this is important? Correctly gcc-built Tcl executables
    should run on any recent Windows system without additional
    installations. E.g. I build tclkits on Github using Github Actions, >downloadable here: https://github.com/auriocus/kbskit/releases

    The .exe worked on any Windows system tested so far.
    yes, I know that - I practically use a gcc-built Tcl every day.

    The setup is complicated and right now I am not in the mood of writing
    long stories (I am eager to get one of Ashok's Tcls and see if it
    helps me).
    But I will explain my situation later.

    Best regards,
    Helmut

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  • From Robert Heller@21:1/5 to auriocus@gmx.de on Tue Dec 6 15:14:57 2022
    At Tue, 6 Dec 2022 14:37:04 +0100 Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> wrote:


    Am 06.12.22 um 07:15 schrieb Helmut Giese:
    Hello out there,
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools?

    May I ask why this is important? Correctly gcc-built Tcl executables
    should run on any recent Windows system without additional
    installations. E.g. I build tclkits on Github using Github Actions, downloadable here: https://github.com/auriocus/kbskit/releases

    If one is *building* a shared library (.dll) extension under MS-Windows with MS's tools, one needs support libraries (eg tclstublib.lib) built with MS's tools.


    The .exe worked on any Windows system tested so far.

    It's not yet updated for 8.6.13 because I tried to include Tclcurl in
    the release, which currently fails on Windows.

    Best regards,

    Christian




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  • From Helmut Giese@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 16:12:00 2022
    Hello Harald,

    Ashok builds everything with MS Tools:

    https://www.magicsplat.com/
    which leads here:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/magicsplat/
    so this seems to be just what the doctor ordered.


    Ashok mentioned that he is on travel. So, TCL 8.6.13 versions are not
    out jet.
    My requirements are quite humble - just a handful of Tcl functions
    which would (I guess) be present in practically all Tcl versions of
    the last 15 or so years.
    Many thanks for the link
    Helmut

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  • From saitology9@21:1/5 to Helmut Giese on Tue Dec 6 11:44:22 2022
    On 12/6/2022 1:15 AM, Helmut Giese wrote:
    Hello out there,
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools? I seem to remember
    that not too long ago I have seen here a message to that regard - but
    my news reader apparently has lost lots of postings so that I wasn't
    able to find anything.
    Any link or tip will be greatly appreciated
    Helmut
    PS: Time to replace my news reader. I am currently using a program
    called 'agent' from 2002 or earlier. Any recommandations?


    I heartily recommend Paul Obermeier's Bawt: http://www.bawt.tcl3d.org.
    It gives you the flexibility to use MS or gcc compilers.

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  • From Paul Obermeier@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 18:33:43 2022
    Am 06.12.2022 um 17:44 schrieb saitology9:
    On 12/6/2022 1:15 AM, Helmut Giese wrote:
    Hello out there,
    is there a Tcl for Windows generated by MS tools? I seem to remember
    that not too long ago I have seen here  a message to that regard - but
    my news reader apparently has lost  lots of postings so that I wasn't
    able to find anything.
    Any link or tip will be greatly appreciated
    Helmut
    PS: Time to replace my news reader. I am currently using a program
    called 'agent' from 2002 or earlier. Any recommandations?


    I heartily recommend Paul Obermeier's Bawt: http://www.bawt.tcl3d.org. It gives you the flexibility to use MS or gcc compilers.

    In principle I second that, but note, that Tcl and Tk currently only support MinGW/gcc builds on Windows.

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  • From Luc@21:1/5 to Christian Gollwitzer on Wed Dec 7 12:37:56 2022
    On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 14:37:04 +0100, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:

    Correctly gcc-built Tcl executables
    should run on any recent Windows system without additional
    installations. E.g. I build tclkits on Github using Github Actions, downloadable here: https://github.com/auriocus/kbskit/releases


    It even runs on Linux/Wine. I tried it.


    --
    Luc


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