I study the source of clojure:
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/**
* Copyright (c) Rich Hickey. All rights reserved.
The use and distribution terms for this software are covered by the
* Eclipse Public License 1.0 (http://opensource.org/licenses/eclipse-1.0.php) * which can be found in the file epl-v10.html at the root of this distribution.
* By using this software in any fashion, you are agreeing to be bound by
* the terms of this license.
* You must not remove this notice, or any other, from this software.
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/* rich Jun 11, 2008 */
package clojure.lang;
public interface IReduce extends IReduceInit{
Object reduce(IFn f) ;
}
/ ------------------------------------------
Really? Can we be forced to look at copyright before we can use
this? Can this trivial code really be copyrighted?
Note that the copyright message dwarfs the code.
The only clue what this is supposed to mean is that it is present at https://raw.githubusercontent.com/clojure/clojure/master/src/jvm/clojure/lang/IReduce.java
I study the source of clojure:
/ ------------------------------------------
/**
* Copyright (c) Rich Hickey. All rights reserved.
The use and distribution terms for this software are covered by the
* Eclipse Public License 1.0 (http://opensource.org/licenses/eclipse-1.0.php)
* which can be found in the file epl-v10.html at the root of this distribution.
* By using this software in any fashion, you are agreeing to be bound by
* the terms of this license.
* You must not remove this notice, or any other, from this software.
**/
/* rich Jun 11, 2008 */
package clojure.lang;
public interface IReduce extends IReduceInit{
Object reduce(IFn f) ;
}
/ ------------------------------------------
Really? Can we be forced to look at copyright before we can use
this? Can this trivial code really be copyrighted?
Note that the copyright message dwarfs the code.
On 2023-09-23, albert@cherry.(none) (albert) <albert@cherry> wrote:
I study the source of clojure:
/ ------------------------------------------
/**
* Copyright (c) Rich Hickey. All rights reserved.
The use and distribution terms for this software are covered by the
* Eclipse Public License 1.0 (http://opensource.org/licenses/eclipse-1.0.php)
* which can be found in the file epl-v10.html at the root of this distribution.
* By using this software in any fashion, you are agreeing to be bound by
* the terms of this license.
* You must not remove this notice, or any other, from this software.
**/
/* rich Jun 11, 2008 */
package clojure.lang;
public interface IReduce extends IReduceInit{
Object reduce(IFn f) ;
}
/ ------------------------------------------
Really? Can we be forced to look at copyright before we can useIt's very common for software projects to have unform copyright headers plastered into every file.
this? Can this trivial code really be copyrighted?
This applies to proprietary, commercial software as well as free open source.
I've never worked in a company in which every source file we developed didn't have a copyright block on the top, no matter how trivial the
content.
Pretty trivial works are copyrightable, like simple-minded pop songs.
Note that the copyright message dwarfs the code.The code looks like it is only an interface specification; i.e.
it defines an API and not any program behavior.
Copyrighting API's is a form of monopolistic abuse.
It was the subject of a lawsuit between Oracle and Google.
Read all about it here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/API#Dispute_over_copyright_protection_for_APIs
(And in fact that involved Java, not that it matters.)
The latest scoop is that Oracle kept appealing this all the way to
the U.S. Supreme Court and lost; the court decided that Google's cloning
of APIs isn't infringing.
Whether or not APIs are copyrightable, projects are going to stick their copyright header on files that define APIs, and simply copy-pasting
their exact definition (especially including the copyright header, doh!) could be infringing.
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On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:28:56 AM UTC-7, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2023-09-23, albert@cherry.(none) (albert) <albert@cherry> wrote:
I study the source of clojure:It's very common for software projects to have unform copyright headers
/ ------------------------------------------
/**
* Copyright (c) Rich Hickey. All rights reserved.
The use and distribution terms for this software are covered by the
* Eclipse Public License 1.0 (http://opensource.org/licenses/eclipse-1.0.php)
* which can be found in the file epl-v10.html at the root of this distribution.
* By using this software in any fashion, you are agreeing to be bound by >>> * the terms of this license.
* You must not remove this notice, or any other, from this software.
**/
/* rich Jun 11, 2008 */
package clojure.lang;
public interface IReduce extends IReduceInit{
Object reduce(IFn f) ;
}
/ ------------------------------------------
Really? Can we be forced to look at copyright before we can use
this? Can this trivial code really be copyrighted?
plastered into every file.
This applies to proprietary, commercial software as well as free open
source.
I've never worked in a company in which every source file we developed
didn't have a copyright block on the top, no matter how trivial the
content.
Pretty trivial works are copyrightable, like simple-minded pop songs.
Note that the copyright message dwarfs the code.The code looks like it is only an interface specification; i.e.
it defines an API and not any program behavior.
Copyrighting API's is a form of monopolistic abuse.
It was the subject of a lawsuit between Oracle and Google.
Read all about it here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/API#Dispute_over_copyright_protection_for_APIs >>
(And in fact that involved Java, not that it matters.)
The latest scoop is that Oracle kept appealing this all the way to
the U.S. Supreme Court and lost; the court decided that Google's cloning
of APIs isn't infringing.
Whether or not APIs are copyrightable, projects are going to stick their
copyright header on files that define APIs, and simply copy-pasting
their exact definition (especially including the copyright header, doh!)
could be infringing.
--
TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr
Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
Mastodon: @Kazi...@mstdn.ca
NOTE: If you use Google Groups, I don't see you, unless you're whitelisted.
"The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers."
From Shakespeare's Henry VI
I have a better idea. Force all the lawyers to develop large C++ applications.
I study the source of clojure:
/ ------------------------------------------
/**
* Copyright (c) Rich Hickey. All rights reserved.
The use and distribution terms for this software are covered by the
* Eclipse Public License 1.0 (http://opensource.org/licenses/eclipse-1.0.php)
* which can be found in the file epl-v10.html at the root of this distribution.
* By using this software in any fashion, you are agreeing to be bound by
* the terms of this license.
* You must not remove this notice, or any other, from this software.
**/
/* rich Jun 11, 2008 */
package clojure.lang;
public interface IReduce extends IReduceInit{
Object reduce(IFn f) ;
}
/ ------------------------------------------
Really? Can we be forced to look at copyright before we can use
this? Can this trivial code really be copyrighted?
Note that the copyright message dwarfs the code.
The only clue what this is supposed to mean is that it is present at https://raw.githubusercontent.com/clojure/clojure/master/src/jvm/clojure/lang/IReduce.java
Groetjes Albert
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