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  • Ann: 8th 22.05 released

    From Ron Aaron@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 28 22:10:02 2022
    This is mostly a bug-fix version, with a few enhancements thrown in for fun.

    Full details here:

    https://8th-dev.com/forum/index.php/topic,2518.msg14680.html

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  • From Zbig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 28 12:18:36 2022
    Actually it wouldn't hurt to list in the FAQ all the differences „8th vs 4th”.

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  • From Ron AARON@21:1/5 to Zbig on Fri Jul 29 08:40:45 2022
    On 28/07/2022 22:18, Zbig wrote:
    Actually it wouldn't hurt to list in the FAQ all the differences „8th vs 4th”.

    Hmm. I had thought the manual had a section on that, but it doesn't.

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to Ron AARON on Fri Jul 29 16:47:49 2022
    On 29/07/2022 15:40, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 28/07/2022 22:18, Zbig wrote:
    Actually it wouldn't hurt to list in the FAQ all the differences „8th vs 4th”.

    Hmm. I had thought the manual had a section on that, but it doesn't.

    You did:

    If you're familiar with Forth, then you should know that 8th is not as
    similar to other Forths as you might like. The main differences are:

    All data items are strongly typed, and occupy one cell on the stack
    You have no access to hardware except through 8th. No assembler words
    (this may change)
    No "create ... does>" (although recently a word c/does was added)
    Uses JSON syntax to define data
    Has many higher-level data constructs such as maps and queues and arrays

    IOW similar in name only :)

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  • From Ron AARON@21:1/5 to dxforth on Fri Jul 29 10:16:17 2022
    On 29/07/2022 9:47, dxforth wrote:
    On 29/07/2022 15:40, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 28/07/2022 22:18, Zbig wrote:
    Actually it wouldn't hurt to list in the FAQ all the differences „8th vs 4th”.

    Hmm. I had thought the manual had a section on that, but it doesn't.

    You did:

    If you're familiar with Forth, then you should know that 8th is not as
    similar to other Forths as you might like. The main differences are:

    All data items are strongly typed, and occupy one cell on the stack
    You have no access to hardware except through 8th. No assembler words
    (this may change)
    No "create ... does>" (although recently a word c/does was added)
    Uses JSON syntax to define data
    Has many higher-level data constructs such as maps and queues and arrays

    IOW similar in name only :)
    :)

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to dxforth on Fri Jul 29 19:52:19 2022
    On 29/07/2022 16:47, dxforth wrote:
    On 29/07/2022 15:40, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 28/07/2022 22:18, Zbig wrote:
    Actually it wouldn't hurt to list in the FAQ all the differences „8th vs 4th”.

    Hmm. I had thought the manual had a section on that, but it doesn't.

    You did:

    If you're familiar with Forth, then you should know that 8th is not as
    similar to other Forths as you might like. The main differences are:

    All data items are strongly typed, and occupy one cell on the stack
    You have no access to hardware except through 8th. No assembler words
    (this may change)
    No "create ... does>" (although recently a word c/does was added)
    Uses JSON syntax to define data
    Has many higher-level data constructs such as maps and queues and arrays

    A few more:

    8th isn't an event. There is no Euro8th, committees, video meetings, seminars,
    training, book sales, nor anyone to pass the buck. On the negative it has a
    forum inviting user participation. You can make a donation (non tax-deductible).

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  • From Zbig@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 29 04:26:21 2022
    So when I read a manual, then I get the answer like: „You didn't even bother to
    read README, where it is clearly described...” etc — and when I read README/FAQ
    I'm being redirected to manual.
    Poor me.

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  • From Ron Aaron@21:1/5 to Zbig on Fri Jul 29 16:15:14 2022
    On 29/07/2022 14:26, Zbig wrote:
    So when I read a manual, then I get the answer like: „You didn't even bother to
    read README, where it is clearly described...” etc — and when I read README/FAQ
    I'm being redirected to manual.
    Poor me.

    Do I give you answers like that? I hope not; at least, I try not to do that.

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