Hello,
Try the web version of eFORTH: https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/web-eforth/index/

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On Friday, 10 March 2023 at 14:20:44 UTC, Marc Petremann wrote:

Hello,
Try the web version of eFORTH: https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/web-eforth/index/

Thanks for posting.
i gave it a quick 5 3 + .
and looked at the word list.
For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.

Try the manual. https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/index/glossaire/

It worked for a lot of people!

Hans Bezemer

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On Friday, 10 March 2023 at 16:25:39 UTC, Hans Bezemer wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.

Try the manual. https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/index/glossaire/

It worked for a lot of people!

Hans Bezemer

Thank you very much. This is probably step number 2 for me.

Let's first go with what I have as part of my Forth Bookshelf.
It reminded me of what I did many years ago:
THE FORTH LITE TUTORIAL https://www.amazon.co.uk/FORTH-LITE-TUTORIAL-compatible-SwiftForth/dp/1717970672
Even the comments there are not negative ...

There I did some simple examples to see what happens.

Now, many years later, it will give me the opportunity to check a bit of compatibility.
At the time it was VFX and Swiftforth, let's see how compatible the newer Forths are - like this one.


And as well I am playing with uEForth1 on the Arduino nano
And there are examples running on WOKWI, I liked the one where you control 4 servos online.
https://github.com/chochain/eForth1?fbclid=IwAR3vuJozUugQT8QanCpDmOnDKRp9sxSHe-QoVhXYP0XSSrpxX0btMo0Al7g

There is as well documentation on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/1304548976637542/posts/1610691709356599/?comment_id=1610783519347418&reply_comment_id=1640326646393105&notif_id=1678080116364500&notif_t=group_comment_mention

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On 11/03/2023 6:26 am, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

On Friday, 10 March 2023 at 16:25:39 UTC, Hans Bezemer wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.

Try the manual. https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/index/glossaire/

It worked for a lot of people!

Hans Bezemer

Thank you very much. This is probably step number 2 for me.

Let's first go with what I have as part of my Forth Bookshelf.
It reminded me of what I did many years ago:
THE FORTH LITE TUTORIAL https://www.amazon.co.uk/FORTH-LITE-TUTORIAL-compatible-SwiftForth/dp/1717970672
Even the comments there are not negative ...

There I did some simple examples to see what happens.

Now, many years later, it will give me the opportunity to check a bit of compatibility.
At the time it was VFX and Swiftforth, let's see how compatible the newer Forths are - like this one.

And as well I am playing with uEForth1 on the Arduino nano
And there are examples running on WOKWI, I liked the one where you control 4 servos online.
https://github.com/chochain/eForth1?fbclid=IwAR3vuJozUugQT8QanCpDmOnDKRp9sxSHe-QoVhXYP0XSSrpxX0btMo0Al7g

There is as well documentation on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/1304548976637542/posts/1610691709356599/?comment_id=1610783519347418&reply_comment_id=1640326646393105&notif_id=1678080116364500&notif_t=group_comment_mention

Speaking of 'learn by doing', I've not seen it but 'Forth Application Techniques'
(forth.com) has been around for years. I was impressed by the intro to forth in
the RSC-Forth manual (section 4). Nicely paced and informal, it was written for
engineers needing to come to grips with a new language quickly. Reader comes away
feeling 'I got this!'. How Forth ought to be taught? Nothing was more daunting
than being presented with a FIG glossary and told to learn it :)

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On Saturday, 11 March 2023 at 04:00:13 UTC, dxforth wrote:

On 11/03/2023 6:26 am, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

On Friday, 10 March 2023 at 16:25:39 UTC, Hans Bezemer wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote: >>> For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.
Try the manual. https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/index/glossaire/

It worked for a lot of people!

Hans Bezemer

Thank you very much. This is probably step number 2 for me.

Let's first go with what I have as part of my Forth Bookshelf.
It reminded me of what I did many years ago:
THE FORTH LITE TUTORIAL https://www.amazon.co.uk/FORTH-LITE-TUTORIAL-compatible-SwiftForth/dp/1717970672
Even the comments there are not negative ...

There I did some simple examples to see what happens.

Now, many years later, it will give me the opportunity to check a bit of compatibility.
At the time it was VFX and Swiftforth, let's see how compatible the newer Forths are - like this one.

And as well I am playing with uEForth1 on the Arduino nano
And there are examples running on WOKWI, I liked the one where you control 4 servos online.
https://github.com/chochain/eForth1?fbclid=IwAR3vuJozUugQT8QanCpDmOnDKRp9sxSHe-QoVhXYP0XSSrpxX0btMo0Al7g

There is as well documentation on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/1304548976637542/posts/1610691709356599/?comment_id=1610783519347418&reply_comment_id=1640326646393105&notif_id=1678080116364500&notif_t=group_comment_mention

Speaking of 'learn by doing', I've not seen it but 'Forth Application Techniques'
(forth.com) has been around for years. I was impressed by the intro to forth in
the RSC-Forth manual (section 4). Nicely paced and informal, it was written for
engineers needing to come to grips with a new language quickly. Reader comes away
feeling 'I got this!'. How Forth ought to be taught? Nothing was more daunting
than being presented with a FIG glossary and told to learn it :)

Thank you vwery much for this hint. Asked google:
293 pages at https://github.com/glitchwrks/rsc_forth/blob/master/datasheets/RSC-FORTH_User_Manual.pdf

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On 11/03/2023 3:25 am, Hans Bezemer wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.

Try the manual. https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/index/glossaire/

It worked for a lot of people!

Have to admit feeling like a noob using the WIN version. First
disappointment was finding out common functions weren't loaded by default. Tried 'include utils.fs' ... 'Error including: utils.fs'
After stuffing around I find I need to 'include utils' (according to
glossary above the former should have worked).
So now 'include utils' - which it does but then spits out 'ERROR' with
nothing to indicate what.

I appreciate ueforth is a work in progress but ATM only for fans with a
high tolerance level for surprises.

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Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 02:58:39 UTC+1, dxforth a écrit :

On 11/03/2023 3:25 am, Hans Bezemer wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.

Try the manual. https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/index/glossaire/

It worked for a lot of people!

Have to admit feeling like a noob using the WIN version. First disappointment was finding out common functions weren't loaded by default. Tried 'include utils.fs' ... 'Error including: utils.fs'

.......

You must use included....
It's explained here: https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/article/installation_windows_instalWindows#toolsDir

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On 20/03/2023 7:59 pm, Marc Petremann wrote:

Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 02:58:39 UTC+1, dxforth a écrit :

On 11/03/2023 3:25 am, Hans Bezemer wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC+1, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:

For my level of Forth I have to wait for access to a word list with explanations.

Try the manual. https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/index/glossaire/

It worked for a lot of people!

Have to admit feeling like a noob using the WIN version. First
disappointment was finding out common functions weren't loaded by default. >> Tried 'include utils.fs' ... 'Error including: utils.fs'

.......

You must use included....
It's explained here: https://eforth.arduino-forth.com/article/installation_windows_instalWindows#toolsDir

It turns out 'include utils.fs' does work. Not explained AFAIK is vocabulary.fs
must be loaded before anything else or strange things happen. I hasten to add documentation is the developer's responsibility - not users.

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