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  • Re: sendmail documentation

    From Claus =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=DFmann?= @21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Tue Sep 27 06:14:30 2022
    Marco Moock wrote:

    It would be very helpful to update the documentation that is on the

    I can either remove it or leave it... In the former case people
    will probably find other outdated info "on the web".

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 28 19:58:48 2022
    Am 27.09.2022 um 06:14:30 Uhr schrieb Claus Aßmann:

    I can either remove it or leave it... In the former case people
    will probably find other outdated info "on the web".

    We should update the web documentation.
    Is it possible to include the content of the doc in the tarball on the
    sendmail website, so people can find documentation that applies to the
    current sendmail version?

    It should be enough to provide just the text in an HTML file that is on
    the web server. In my opinion there is no need for a design.

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  • From Claus =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=DFmann?= @21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Sep 29 02:07:18 2022
    Marco Moock wrote:

    We should update the web documentation.

    Who is "We"?

    Is it possible to include the content of the doc in the tarball on the

    Did you check "the tarball"?

    ...
    sendmail-8.17.1.22/doc/op/op.ps
    sendmail-8.17.1.22/doc/op/op.me
    sendmail-8.17.1.22/doc/op/Makefile
    sendmail-8.17.1.22/doc/op/README

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 29 09:16:22 2022
    Am 29.09.2022 um 02:07:18 Uhr schrieb Claus Aßmann:

    Did you check "the tarball"?

    Yes, I did, but the reason for my suggestion is that it makes it easier
    to find the information for people who don't know that it is included
    in the tarball.

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  • From Claus =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=DFmann?= @21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Sep 29 06:11:09 2022
    Marco Moock wrote:

    Yes, I did, but the reason for my suggestion is that it makes it easier
    to find the information for people who don't know that it is included
    in the tarball.

    If you have an idea how to do that, please implement it.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 29 13:01:40 2022
    Am 29.09.2022 um 06:37:39 Uhr schrieb Claus Aßmann:

    Marco Moock wrote:

    Is there something against just providing the text from the doc in
    the tarball in HTML files on the web server?

    Which web server?
    www.sendmail.org?
    Take a look -- maybe you can figure out who maintains it?

    ok, I assume that you don't have control over the server at all
    (proofpoint does), but you have control to your user directory on /~ca,
    or is that guess wrong?

    This should be rather easy to do.

    Says the person who doesn't do it...
    Do you run a web server?

    Not at this time.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 29 12:25:31 2022
    Am 29.09.2022 um 06:11:09 Uhr schrieb Claus Aßmann:

    Marco Moock wrote:

    Yes, I did, but the reason for my suggestion is that it makes it
    easier to find the information for people who don't know that it is included in the tarball.

    If you have an idea how to do that, please implement it.

    Is there something against just providing the text from the doc in the
    tarball in HTML files on the web server?

    This should be rather easy to do.

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  • From Claus =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=DFmann?= @21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Sep 29 06:37:39 2022
    Marco Moock wrote:

    Is there something against just providing the text from the doc in the tarball in HTML files on the web server?

    Which web server?
    www.sendmail.org?
    Take a look -- maybe you can figure out who maintains it?

    This should be rather easy to do.

    Says the person who doesn't do it...
    Do you run a web server?
    If so, why don't you "just do it"?
    If it's "good", search engine will index it, right?

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  • From Claus =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=DFmann?= @21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Sep 29 12:36:17 2022
    Marco Moock wrote:

    but you have control to your user directory on /~ca,

    Of course I do.
    So you want something and you want someone else to do it...

    Here's how you get something done:
    - you do it yourself.
    - you pay someone to do it.
    - you forbid your kids to do it.


    Anyway: IMNSHO people should read the documentation which comes
    with the software. Unfortunately there is too much software with useless/incorrect documentation hence now people try to find stuff
    "online" -- most of which is outdated or often just plain wrong.


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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 29 19:55:49 2022
    Am 29.09.2022 um 12:36:17 Uhr schrieb Claus Aßmann:

    - you do it yourself.

    If I prepare such an HTML document with the doc of 8.17.1, would you
    upload it?
    Then I would give it a try and you can use it.

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  • From Claus =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=DFmann?= @21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Sep 29 14:45:21 2022
    Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 29.09.2022 um 12:36:17 Uhr schrieb Claus Aßmann:

    - you do it yourself.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    If I prepare such an HTML document with the doc of 8.17.1, would you
    upload it?

    No -- see above.

    That's just extra work for each release - if I would do this
    at all I would automated it and not use something from
    someone else...

    Bye.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 30 10:05:00 2022
    Am 30.09.2022 um 07:51:41 Uhr schrieb Andreas S. Kerber:

    converted the sendmail 8.17.1 documentation as html. Think I might
    update it after every (non-beta) release. Maybe some search engine
    will pick it up: https://help.idkom.de/sendmail/op.html

    Great. If you like, you can also specify the headlines as html
    headlines, so it is possible to link certain parts directly.

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  • From Andreas S. Kerber@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Fri Sep 30 07:51:41 2022
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Is there something against just providing the text from the doc in the tarball in HTML files on the web server?
    This should be rather easy to do.

    Hi there,

    converted the sendmail 8.17.1 documentation as html. Think I might update
    it after every (non-beta) release. Maybe some search engine will
    pick it up: https://help.idkom.de/sendmail/op.html

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