I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the subject matchesthe preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never sent. The statusseems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.
Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
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Rick C.
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On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 05:27:08 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:matches the preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the subject
status seems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never sent. The
Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Have you tried recreating the table of contents (TOC) for that mailbox?
It might fix it.
Go with Windows Explorer into the folder where the mailbox files are, and find the files relating to that mailbox.
There should be a .mbx file and a .toc file.
Make sure you have Windows Explorer set to show file extensions.
With Eudora closed of course, rename the toc file to say '*.toc.old.
Restart Eudora, and it should rebuild the TOC and generate a new file.
Does the mailbox display now look any different/better?
HTH. Cheers, Dave.
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 00:25:17 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:matches the preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:40:33 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 05:27:08 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the subject
status seems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never sent. The
large collection of headers. I'm thinking this reply email is no longer separated from the prior email, and for what ever reason, the missing email is simply gone.Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Have you tried recreating the table of contents (TOC) for that mailbox? It might fix it.Looks like the email is lost. Now, not only is that email not showing up, another email that was a reply to the missing email is gone. However, when I search for the contents of the subject line, it shows up in a previous email toward the end in a
Go with Windows Explorer into the folder where the mailbox files are, and find the files relating to that mailbox.
There should be a .mbx file and a .toc file.
Make sure you have Windows Explorer set to show file extensions.
With Eudora closed of course, rename the toc file to say '*.toc.old. Restart Eudora, and it should rebuild the TOC and generate a new file. Does the mailbox display now look any different/better?
HTH. Cheers, Dave.
If rebuilding the TOC didn't fix it, then I'm afraid you're probably right. Presumably you don't have a backup of the mailbox folder from before the problem happened?
Wise after the event I appreciate, but backing up Eudora folders regularly is a good thing to do.
Cheers, Dave.
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:40:33 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:matches the preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 05:27:08 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the subject
status seems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never sent. The
large collection of headers. I'm thinking this reply email is no longer separated from the prior email, and for what ever reason, the missing email is simply gone.Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Have you tried recreating the table of contents (TOC) for that mailbox?Looks like the email is lost. Now, not only is that email not showing up, another email that was a reply to the missing email is gone. However, when I search for the contents of the subject line, it shows up in a previous email toward the end in a
It might fix it.
Go with Windows Explorer into the folder where the mailbox files are, and find the files relating to that mailbox.
There should be a .mbx file and a .toc file.
Make sure you have Windows Explorer set to show file extensions.
With Eudora closed of course, rename the toc file to say '*.toc.old. Restart Eudora, and it should rebuild the TOC and generate a new file. Does the mailbox display now look any different/better?
HTH. Cheers, Dave.
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 12:16:24 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:subject matches the preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 7:35:50 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 00:25:17 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:40:33 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 05:27:08 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the
The status seems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never sent.
a large collection of headers. I'm thinking this reply email is no longer separated from the prior email, and for what ever reason, the missing email is simply gone.Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Have you tried recreating the table of contents (TOC) for that mailbox?Looks like the email is lost. Now, not only is that email not showing up, another email that was a reply to the missing email is gone. However, when I search for the contents of the subject line, it shows up in a previous email toward the end in
It might fix it.
Go with Windows Explorer into the folder where the mailbox files are, and find the files relating to that mailbox.
There should be a .mbx file and a .toc file.
Make sure you have Windows Explorer set to show file extensions. With Eudora closed of course, rename the toc file to say '*.toc.old. Restart Eudora, and it should rebuild the TOC and generate a new file.
Does the mailbox display now look any different/better?
HTH. Cheers, Dave.
which might be considered an advantage after your experience, but of course you can always set POP to leave things on the server too!If rebuilding the TOC didn't fix it, then I'm afraid you're probably right.Yes, I have lots of backups. But not this recent. After 20 years of emails, my Eudora folder is 4 GB. Not so easy to maintain backups. I tend to backup once a month. I need to do a backup now, but I was hoping to fix this glitch first.
Presumably you don't have a backup of the mailbox folder from before the problem happened?
Wise after the event I appreciate, but backing up Eudora folders regularly is a good thing to do.
Cheers, Dave.
I think I have lost an email maybe three times in the 20 years. I route all my emails through Gmail which acts as a spam filter and provides email access when I'm not at home. But it doesn't include the sent emails.
People have told me to us IMAP, but that doesn't solve the sent email issue.
I've never actually tried it, but the received wisdom amongst the Eudora-using community is that Eudora doesn't work very well with IMAP, even though it does support it. Messages apparently always stay on the server with IMAP, so you can't lose things,
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 7:35:50 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:matches the preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 00:25:17 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:40:33 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 05:27:08 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the subject
The status seems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never sent.
large collection of headers. I'm thinking this reply email is no longer separated from the prior email, and for what ever reason, the missing email is simply gone.Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Have you tried recreating the table of contents (TOC) for that mailbox?Looks like the email is lost. Now, not only is that email not showing up, another email that was a reply to the missing email is gone. However, when I search for the contents of the subject line, it shows up in a previous email toward the end in a
It might fix it.
Go with Windows Explorer into the folder where the mailbox files are, and find the files relating to that mailbox.
There should be a .mbx file and a .toc file.
Make sure you have Windows Explorer set to show file extensions.
With Eudora closed of course, rename the toc file to say '*.toc.old. Restart Eudora, and it should rebuild the TOC and generate a new file. Does the mailbox display now look any different/better?
HTH. Cheers, Dave.
If rebuilding the TOC didn't fix it, then I'm afraid you're probably right.Yes, I have lots of backups. But not this recent. After 20 years of emails, my Eudora folder is 4 GB. Not so easy to maintain backups. I tend to backup once a month. I need to do a backup now, but I was hoping to fix this glitch first.
Presumably you don't have a backup of the mailbox folder from before the problem happened?
Wise after the event I appreciate, but backing up Eudora folders regularly is a good thing to do.
Cheers, Dave.
I think I have lost an email maybe three times in the 20 years. I route all my emails through Gmail which acts as a spam filter and provides email access when I'm not at home. But it doesn't include the sent emails.
People have told me to us IMAP, but that doesn't solve the sent email issue.
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 2:53:34 PM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:subject matches the preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 12:16:24 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 7:35:50 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 00:25:17 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:40:33 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 05:27:08 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the
The status seems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never sent.
in a large collection of headers. I'm thinking this reply email is no longer separated from the prior email, and for what ever reason, the missing email is simply gone.Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Have you tried recreating the table of contents (TOC) for that mailbox?Looks like the email is lost. Now, not only is that email not showing up, another email that was a reply to the missing email is gone. However, when I search for the contents of the subject line, it shows up in a previous email toward the end
It might fix it.
Go with Windows Explorer into the folder where the mailbox files are, and find the files relating to that mailbox.
There should be a .mbx file and a .toc file.
Make sure you have Windows Explorer set to show file extensions. With Eudora closed of course, rename the toc file to say '*.toc.old.
Restart Eudora, and it should rebuild the TOC and generate a new file.
Does the mailbox display now look any different/better?
HTH. Cheers, Dave.
things, which might be considered an advantage after your experience, but of course you can always set POP to leave things on the server too!If rebuilding the TOC didn't fix it, then I'm afraid you're probably right.Yes, I have lots of backups. But not this recent. After 20 years of emails, my Eudora folder is 4 GB. Not so easy to maintain backups. I tend to backup once a month. I need to do a backup now, but I was hoping to fix this glitch first.
Presumably you don't have a backup of the mailbox folder from before the problem happened?
Wise after the event I appreciate, but backing up Eudora folders regularly is a good thing to do.
Cheers, Dave.
I think I have lost an email maybe three times in the 20 years. I route all my emails through Gmail which acts as a spam filter and provides email access when I'm not at home. But it doesn't include the sent emails.
People have told me to us IMAP, but that doesn't solve the sent email issue.
I've never actually tried it, but the received wisdom amongst the Eudora-using community is that Eudora doesn't work very well with IMAP, even though it does support it. Messages apparently always stay on the server with IMAP, so you can't lose
I would still have the same failure, because the lost message was an outbound email which IMAP doesn't address.
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 19:12:17 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:subject matches the preview pane. The trouble is, there's nothing in the email.
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 2:53:34 PM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 12:16:24 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 7:35:50 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 00:25:17 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 7:40:33 AM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:
On Monday, 1 August 2022 at 05:27:08 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm always saying how Eudora never lets me down, but I'm seeing a bit of corruption in a mailbox. One email shows a subject line in the preview pane, but a different subject in the email list for this mailbox. When I open the email, the
sent. The status seems to be "sendable", the green dot with a circle in it.It should be one I sent out a couple of weeks ago. I see an automatic reply was received. But I can't bring up the actual email. The email that shows in the preview and in the open email is a very old email, possibly one that was never
in a large collection of headers. I'm thinking this reply email is no longer separated from the prior email, and for what ever reason, the missing email is simply gone.Any idea of how to recover this file? I suppose I'm going to need to open in an editor capable of viewing non-printable characters? I'm guessing the file format is not entirely text.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Have you tried recreating the table of contents (TOC) for that mailbox?Looks like the email is lost. Now, not only is that email not showing up, another email that was a reply to the missing email is gone. However, when I search for the contents of the subject line, it shows up in a previous email toward the end
It might fix it.
Go with Windows Explorer into the folder where the mailbox files are, and find the files relating to that mailbox.
There should be a .mbx file and a .toc file.
Make sure you have Windows Explorer set to show file extensions. With Eudora closed of course, rename the toc file to say '*.toc.old.
Restart Eudora, and it should rebuild the TOC and generate a new file.
Does the mailbox display now look any different/better?
HTH. Cheers, Dave.
things, which might be considered an advantage after your experience, but of course you can always set POP to leave things on the server too!If rebuilding the TOC didn't fix it, then I'm afraid you're probably right.Yes, I have lots of backups. But not this recent. After 20 years of emails, my Eudora folder is 4 GB. Not so easy to maintain backups. I tend to backup once a month. I need to do a backup now, but I was hoping to fix this glitch first.
Presumably you don't have a backup of the mailbox folder from before the problem happened?
Wise after the event I appreciate, but backing up Eudora folders regularly is a good thing to do.
Cheers, Dave.
I think I have lost an email maybe three times in the 20 years. I route all my emails through Gmail which acts as a spam filter and provides email access when I'm not at home. But it doesn't include the sent emails.
People have told me to us IMAP, but that doesn't solve the sent email issue.
I've never actually tried it, but the received wisdom amongst the Eudora-using community is that Eudora doesn't work very well with IMAP, even though it does support it. Messages apparently always stay on the server with IMAP, so you can't lose
I would still have the same failure, because the lost message was an outbound email which IMAP doesn't address.
Of course, silly me!
Actually, on my smartphone e-mail app, I can see all my sent messages, including those sent from Eudora.
If you have that facility, it might be worth looking, you never know, your missing messages might be there!
Things just got worse. ALL the mailboxes show no contents on the emails. The toc information in the list pane is ok, but no contents in any emails. The .mbx files all have size. A restart of Eudora did not help.
Crap!
On Wednesday, 3 August 2022 at 21:17:24 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
Things just got worse. ALL the mailboxes show no contents on the emails. The toc information in the list pane is ok, but no contents in any emails. The .mbx files all have size. A restart of Eudora did not help.
Crap!
Well I can't explain that.
You only rebuilt the TOC file of the one mailbox you were having trouble with I assume?
That shouldn't have affected any of the others.
On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:05:28 PM UTC-4, dav...@sky.com wrote:again, it all worked!
On Wednesday, 3 August 2022 at 21:17:24 UTC, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
Things just got worse. ALL the mailboxes show no contents on the emails. The toc information in the list pane is ok, but no contents in any emails. The .mbx files all have size. A restart of Eudora did not help.
Crap!
Well I can't explain that.That was a couple of days ago anyway. But it's working now. I had already tried shutting down Eudora and restarting without success. I made a complete copy of the Eudora directory before I started dinking with anything. Then when I brought Eudora up
You only rebuilt the TOC file of the one mailbox you were having trouble with I assume?
That shouldn't have affected any of the others.
Eudora is starting to make me nervous.
So another case of corruption. The message is intact, but the status/queuing is corrupted. This was a sent email and a filter moved it to another mailbox after sending, something that was set up years ago. When it showed up in the new mailbox, it wasflagged wrong, not as an outbound email. I save the mailbox and the .toc, then moved it back to the out mailbox. Still corrupted with no obvious way to fix this.
A long time ago, I would dig into the mailbox to fix these. Anyone know where in the file I would fix this?
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