• OT how to remain anonymous

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 13:31:50 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-1o, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.home.repair

    OT and OT for every group I can think of, but surely you all have other interests in addition to the topic of the group?

    If you write an insulting email to a member/employee of the government,
    is it easy for them to trace the email address back to you? To your
    name and address? Are there lists avaialble to them without a warrant?
    Without a warrant, because they would have to lie to get a warrant,
    since it's insulting but not threatening. (And not the current
    president or his cabinet, who I don't expect to be vindictive and are
    not the subject of my current ire anyhow. I'm thinking of someone else.) Perhaps there is a way to stop this, like using a non-USA email address?
    I haven't looked but there must be non-USA companies that, like Yahoo
    and Gmail (American, right?) will give out free addresss, or one could
    pay them too if it's worth it. Even serving a warrant on a foreign
    email provider sounds harder than doing the same in the USA.

    There used to be anonymous remailers and iirc, I had the software for
    one, which I only used to give what I thought helpful advice to a friend
    who would dislike the advice. But my recollection is that they made a
    law which made it harder for anonymous remailers to work, is that right?

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to micky on Sun Feb 11 21:43:58 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-1o, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.home.repair

    On 2024-02-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    OT and OT for every group I can think of, but surely you all have other interests in addition to the topic of the group?

    If you write an insulting email to a member/employee of the government,

    Why would you want to do anything but be completely professional?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Hamilton on Sun Feb 11 21:18:39 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-1o, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.home.repair

    In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:43:58 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-02-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    OT and OT for every group I can think of, but surely you all have other
    interests in addition to the topic of the group?

    If you write an insulting email to a member/employee of the government,

    Why would you want to do anything but be completely professional?

    Because a few of them are vindictive. And some of them have more power
    than the average person, either because of their job or the rest of
    their situation.

    And I challenge the idea that it's unprofessional when you have good
    reason to want to protect yourself. It's neither professional nor unprofessional.

    About 35 years ago the reason was that I didn't want to get a reputation
    as a complainer or troublemaker in my community, but I still wanted to
    call attention to what others were doing wrong. Actually I wanted to
    ask two of them how they got past what I considered the big objections
    to what they were doing. I didn't use my name but I did use my address.
    One didnt' answer and the other answered with hostility. I think I
    leared that even if I think my logic is unassaible, those it negatively
    impacts won't think so. But my reputation was still intact.

    About 2 years after that, there were situations where the problems
    happened in my presence, and I had to call attention to them right then
    and there, for the benefit of those who didn't understand something had
    been done wrong. For some I was tactful (though tact is often not
    enough to stop people from being annoyed, to say the least. For others I responded quickly, without tact. Sure enough, no one in authority
    complained to *me* (only one person complained, and I partially knickled under), but I didn't get promoted to a community position. Fortunately
    I'd alreayd found something else I wanted to do more, but I still
    noticed the silence from those who should have been calling me.

    The older I get the less important this is. A big watershed occurred
    when I retired. No one can interfere with my job now because I don't
    have one.

    Things that take time, years, to cause problems get gradually less
    important as I have less time left, but otoh, I may not have 70 years
    like I once did but I think I have 20 more years, until I'm 97, and
    that's enough time for a lot of things to come back to haunt you and
    hurt you.

    One more related thing. When I was in law school several groups were
    looking for members or participants. One was the National Lawyers
    Guild. I didn't feel I had a lot of time for extra-curricular
    activities, but if I had I might have enrolled without checking them out
    well enough. There was no internet then. Fortunately for me perhaps,
    one other student told me that they were considered far left and being affiliated could hurt me when it came time to get a job. Only years
    after I had dropped out of law school did I read references to their
    being tied to Communists. There is tied and there is tied. I don't
    know how tied they are and otoh I don't know how much I would have
    appreciated their meetings. I know I'm the most stable person I know in
    terms of my views, and they probably wouldn't have affected my views
    much, but the 70's weren't so long after the McCarthyite period where
    people who barely did anything, or nothing at all, got in big trouble.
    If I wanted to join, it would have been better to join under another
    name (or anonymously would be better yet). Though that would be unprofessional. ;-)

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Feb 12 14:17:20 2024
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-1o, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.home.repair

    On 2/11/2024 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
    In comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, on Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:43:58 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2024-02-11, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    OT and OT for every group I can think of, but surely you all have other >>> interests in addition to the topic of the group?

    If you write an insulting email to a member/employee of the government,

    Why would you want to do anything but be completely professional?

    Because a few of them are vindictive. And some of them have more power
    than the average person, either because of their job or the rest of
    their situation.

    I think you need a hobby.

    https://dkdesignwv.files.wordpress.com/2022/09/oldmanyellsatcloud.png

    *******

    The best place to start, is the encyclopedia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_remailer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tails_%28operating_system%29

    To fully flesh out your character (in the marvel comic sense)
    you will need to write a manifesto.

    https://studentsunionucl.org/how-to/clubs-and-societies/how-to-write-manifesto

    "Free the Dave Clark Five" <=== my Manifesto

    There, now you're a radical.

    Paul

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