• the new thinclient

    From Retrograde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 21 01:58:32 2024
    From the «Thin is In» department:
    Title: Windows 365 Link: a thin client from Microsoft
    Author: Thom Holwerda
    Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 23:24:51 +0000
    Link: https://www.osnews.com/story/141166/windows-365-link-a-thin-client-from-microsoft/

    One of my favourite devices that never took on in the home is the thin client. Whenever I look at a fully functional Sun Microsystems thin client setup[1], with Sun Rays, a Solaris server, and the smartcards instantly loading up your desktop the moment you slide it in the Ray’s slot, my mind wonders about the future we could’ve had in our homes – a powerful, expandable, capable server in
    the basement, running every family member’s software, and thin clients all throughout the house where family members can plug their smartcard into to load up their stuff.

    This is the future they took from us.

    Well, not entirely. They took this future, made it infinitely worse by replacing that big server in our basement with massive datacentres far away from us in the “cloud”, and threw it back in our faces as a shittier inevitability we all have to deal with. The fact this model relies on subscriptions is, of course, entirely coincidental and not all the main driving force behind taking our software away from us and hiding it stronghold datacentres.

    So anyway Microsoft is launching a thin client that connects to a Windows VM running in the cloud. They took the perfection Sun gave us, shoved it down their throats, regurgitated it like a cow, and are now presenting it to us as the new shiny. It’s called the Windows 365 Link, and it connects to, as the name implies, Windows 365. Here’s part of the enterprise marketing speak:

    Today, as users take advantage of virtualization offerings delivered on an array of devices, they can face complex sign-in processes, peripheral incompatibility, and latency issues. Windows 365 Link helps address these issues, particularly in shared workspace scenarios. It’s compact, lightweight, and designed to maximize productivity with its highly responsive performance. It takes seconds to boot and instantly wakes from sleep,
    allowing users to quickly get started or pick up where they left off on their Cloud PC. With dual 4K monitor support, four USB ports, an Ethernet port,
    Wi-Fi 6E, and Bluetooth 5.3, Windows 365 Link offers seamless connectivity
    with both wired and wireless peripherals.
    ↫ Anthony Smith at the Windows IT Pro Blog[2]

    This is just a thin client, but worse, since it seemingly can only connect to Microsoft’s “cloud”, without the ability to connect to a server on-premises,
    which is a very common use case. In fact, you can’t even use another vendor’s
    tooling, so if you want to switch from Windows 365 to some other provider later down the line, you seemingly can’t – unless there’s some BIOS switches or whatever you can flip. At the very least, Microsoft intends for other vendors to also make Link devices, so perhaps competition will bring the price down to a more manageble level than $349.

    Unless an enterprise environment is already so deep into the Microsoft ecosystem that they don’t even rely on things like Citrix or any of the other countless providers of similar services, why would you buy thousands of these for your employees, only to lock your entire company into Windows 365? I’m no IT manager, obviously, so perhaps I’m way off base here, but this thing seems like a hard sell when there are so, so many alternative services, and so many thin client devices to choose from that can use any of those services.

    Links:
    [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BW-mbC7Xag&pp=ygUJY2xhYnJldHJv (link) [2]: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/windows-365-link%E2%80%94the-first-cloud-pc-device-for-windows-365/4302687 (link)

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Thu Nov 21 02:23:10 2024
    On 21 Nov 2024 01:58:32 GMT, Retrograde wrote:

    ... only to lock your entire company into Windows 365?

    I suspect the name itself will prove to be a lie. Microsoft has already
    used the “365” name for its cloud-based Office offering, and to my knowledge it has never, in its entire existence so far, managed 365
    consecutive days of uninterrupted uptime.

    It’s hard to see “Windows 365” faring any better.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 21 17:44:11 2024
    On 21.11.2024 01:58 Uhr Retrograde wrote:

    Unless an enterprise environment is already so deep into the Microsoft ecosystem that they don’t even rely on things like Citrix or any of
    the other countless providers of similar services, why would you buy thousands of these for your employees, only to lock your entire
    company into Windows 365?

    Most managers love such solutions. Think about Office 365 and the
    services tied to it. Most companies use them and want them in the way
    they are provided.

    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1732150712muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Thu Nov 21 18:50:13 2024
    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:
    From the «Thin is In» department:
    Title: Windows 365 Link: a thin client from Microsoft
    Author: Thom Holwerda
    Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 23:24:51 +0000
    Link: https://www.osnews.com/story/141166/windows-365-link-a-thin-client-from-microsoft/

    One of my favourite devices that never took on in the home is the thin client.
    Whenever I look at a fully functional Sun Microsystems thin client setup[1], with Sun Rays, a Solaris server, and the smartcards instantly loading up your desktop the moment you slide it in the Ray’s slot, my mind wonders about the
    future we could’ve had in our homes – a powerful, expandable, capable server in
    the basement, running every family member’s software, and thin clients all throughout the house where family members can plug their smartcard into to load
    up their stuff.

    This is the future they took from us.

    Hobbyists can have a server in their basement (or equivalent), and still
    do. For the most part everyone else never wanted one anyway.

    --
    https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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  • From Wolfgang Agnes@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Fri Nov 22 17:10:32 2024
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:

    On 21.11.2024 01:58 Uhr Retrograde wrote:

    Unless an enterprise environment is already so deep into the Microsoft
    ecosystem that they don’t even rely on things like Citrix or any of
    the other countless providers of similar services, why would you buy
    thousands of these for your employees, only to lock your entire
    company into Windows 365?

    Most managers love such solutions. Think about Office 365 and the
    services tied to it. Most companies use them and want them in the way
    they are provided.

    Yeah---such managers have been trained by the very companies they
    consume. The thinking minority is, unfortunately, a minority.

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