• Microsoft notepad.exe paywall

    From Ben Collver@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 16:51:19 2025
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad ===================================================================== <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just- put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>

    If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
    pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
    'freemium' model.

    TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
    Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
    Rewrite tool.

    Notepad has been around for more than 40 years, and throughout that
    time, Microsoft made simple software free, but that time has now come
    to an end, or at least if you want full access to Notepad.

    <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_156651156_microsoft- just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.jpg>

    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad

    The age of Notepad having a paywall has arrived, with the simple
    writing software now prompting users to sign into a Microsoft account
    to access new tools such as Rewrite, a new feature that uses
    artificial intelligence to rewrite highlighted text. Users attempting
    to use the new feature will be prompted with a Microsoft account
    sign-in page, and if the account doesn't have an active Microsoft 365 membership, the user will be required to sign up. This is the
    paywall.

    It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft
    account, and users can go as far as removing the Rewrite icon
    completely from Notepad. Despite the ability to still use the
    software without an account, Microsoft has received some criticism
    for implementing what is most definitely a paywall/advertisement for
    a built-in piece of Windows software.

    This criticism comes after Microsoft slowly started baking in
    advertisements for its other services within the Windows 11 operating
    system, such as ads for Game Pass within the Settings app, various
    ads within the Start Menu, and even File Explorer. As explained by
    Windows Central, Microsoft has adopted the "freemium" model for
    Notepad, which, for those who don't know, means the initial software
    is free to use but has specific features are locked behind paywalls.

    From: <https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103367/after-40-years-of-being- free-microsoft-has-added-paywall-to-notepad/>

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 25 17:25:00 2025
    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad >===================================================================== ><https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just- >put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>
    If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
    pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
    'freemium' model.
    TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
    Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
    Rewrite tool.
    Notepad has been around for more than 40 years, and throughout that
    time, Microsoft made simple software free, but that time has now come
    to an end, or at least if you want full access to Notepad. ><https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_156651156_microsoft- >just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.jpg>
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
    The age of Notepad having a paywall has arrived, with the simple
    writing software now prompting users to sign into a Microsoft account
    to access new tools such as Rewrite, a new feature that uses
    artificial intelligence to rewrite highlighted text. Users attempting
    to use the new feature will be prompted with a Microsoft account
    sign-in page, and if the account doesn't have an active Microsoft 365 >membership, the user will be required to sign up. This is the
    paywall.
    It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft >account, and users can go as far as removing the Rewrite icon
    completely from Notepad. Despite the ability to still use the
    software without an account, Microsoft has received some criticism
    for implementing what is most definitely a paywall/advertisement for
    a built-in piece of Windows software.
    This criticism comes after Microsoft slowly started baking in
    advertisements for its other services within the Windows 11 operating
    system, such as ads for Game Pass within the Settings app, various
    ads within the Start Menu, and even File Explorer. As explained by
    Windows Central, Microsoft has adopted the "freemium" model for
    Notepad, which, for those who don't know, means the initial software
    is free to use but has specific features are locked behind paywalls.
    From: <https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103367/after-40-years-of-being- >free-microsoft-has-added-paywall-to-notepad/>

    for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

    libre office https://libreoffice.org
    notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
    ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 25 23:17:19 2025
    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
    =====================================================================
    <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just-
    put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>
    If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
    pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
    'freemium' model.
    TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
    Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
    Rewrite tool.
    Notepad has been around for more than 40 years, and throughout that
    time, Microsoft made simple software free, but that time has now come
    to an end, or at least if you want full access to Notepad.
    <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_156651156_microsoft-
    just-put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.jpg>
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad
    The age of Notepad having a paywall has arrived, with the simple
    writing software now prompting users to sign into a Microsoft account
    to access new tools such as Rewrite, a new feature that uses
    artificial intelligence to rewrite highlighted text. Users attempting
    to use the new feature will be prompted with a Microsoft account
    sign-in page, and if the account doesn't have an active Microsoft 365
    membership, the user will be required to sign up. This is the
    paywall.
    It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft
    account, and users can go as far as removing the Rewrite icon
    completely from Notepad. Despite the ability to still use the
    software without an account, Microsoft has received some criticism
    for implementing what is most definitely a paywall/advertisement for
    a built-in piece of Windows software.
    This criticism comes after Microsoft slowly started baking in
    advertisements for its other services within the Windows 11 operating
    system, such as ads for Game Pass within the Settings app, various
    ads within the Start Menu, and even File Explorer. As explained by
    Windows Central, Microsoft has adopted the "freemium" model for
    Notepad, which, for those who don't know, means the initial software
    is free to use but has specific features are locked behind paywalls.
    From: <https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103367/after-40-years-of-being-
    free-microsoft-has-added-paywall-to-notepad/>

    for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

    libre office https://libreoffice.org
    notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light
    ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad


    Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant for
    the desktop every year.

    I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with surveillance,
    since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.

    With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
    better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud focus,
    is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

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  • From Rich@21:1/5 to Ben Collver on Wed Feb 26 02:12:10 2025
    Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad ===================================================================== <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just- put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>

    If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
    pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
    'freemium' model.

    TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
    Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
    Rewrite tool.

    Not interested in "the AI-powered rewrite tool" - so not a problem.

    That and the only win box I have is $job's win laptop.

    Still no interest in the ai-powered rewrite tool in either case.

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed Feb 26 11:56:59 2025
    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
    Notepad
    =====================================================================

    for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

    libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
    https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
    https://jsimlo.sk/notepad


    Emacs can be run on Windows too.


    Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
    for the desktop every year.

    I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
    surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.

    With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
    better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
    focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

    I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
    cloud focused.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Richmond on Wed Feb 26 13:17:02 2025
    On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:

    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
    Notepad
    =====================================================================

    for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

    libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
    https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
    https://jsimlo.sk/notepad


    Emacs can be run on Windows too.


    Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
    for the desktop every year.

    I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
    surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.

    With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
    better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
    focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

    I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
    cloud focused.


    Google? The only time I use google is on behalf of one of my customers, so
    if they want google to spy on them and their IP, by all means!

    Personally, and in my own company, not a google or microsoft product as
    far as the eye can see! =D

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed Feb 26 12:28:33 2025
    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:

    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
    Notepad
    ===================================================================== >>>>
    for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

    libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
    https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
    https://jsimlo.sk/notepad


    Emacs can be run on Windows too.


    Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
    for the desktop every year.

    I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
    surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.

    With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
    better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
    focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

    I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
    cloud focused.


    Google? The only time I use google is on behalf of one of my
    customers, so if they want google to spy on them and their IP, by all
    means!

    Personally, and in my own company, not a google or microsoft product
    as far as the eye can see! =D

    You listed Chromebooks and Android, now you are saying "Google?".

    Chromebooks are very cloud focused I think.

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  • From Stefan Ram@21:1/5 to Ben Collver on Wed Feb 26 19:55:37 2025
    Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted:
    If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
    pay

    I've always grokked "Notepad" as bare-bones software that just
    has the rock-bottom essentials to qualify as a text editor.

    As the article spells out later, you only need to sign up
    if you wanna tap into those fancy AI add-ons. That said, the
    in-app promos for that stuff would still get under my skin.

    It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft >account, and users can go as far as removing the Rewrite icon
    completely from Notepad.

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  • From Robert@21:1/5 to Ben Collver on Wed Feb 26 19:19:51 2025
    On 25/02/2025 16:51, Ben Collver wrote:

    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad =====================================================================

    Not used Windows for years but surely users can just install something
    like Notepad++ to replace it?

    Cheers,
    --
    Rob
    "I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational
    in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary
    to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Ben Collver on Thu Feb 27 07:24:12 2025
    Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad ===================================================================== <https://static.tweaktown.com/news/1/0/103367_213332_microsoft-just- put-this-controversial-notepad-feature-behind-paywall.png>

    If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
    pay, with the new changes to 40-year-old software adopting the
    'freemium' model.

    TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a
    Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered
    Rewrite tool.

    Besides putting ads in Notepad, the other night the ABC TV news in
    Australia had a report about people complaining against price hikes
    to M$ 365 in exchange for added AI features that were quietly
    enabled by default. Clearly the word has gone out that AI needs to
    start paying its way, and it'll be interesting to see if there
    really are enough users willing to pay for it.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/microsoft-365-subscription-price-hike-consumer-complaints-accc/104965682

    This, somewhat long-winded, article expresses strong doubts
    about the future of the AI industry as a whole:

    https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/

    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _#

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Richmond on Wed Feb 26 23:05:09 2025
    On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:

    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Wed, 26 Feb 2025, Richmond wrote:

    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
    Notepad
    ===================================================================== >>>>>
    for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

    libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
    https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
    https://jsimlo.sk/notepad


    Emacs can be run on Windows too.


    Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
    for the desktop every year.

    I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
    surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.

    With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
    better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
    focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

    I don't feel confident that Google doesn't spy on me, or that it is not
    cloud focused.


    Google? The only time I use google is on behalf of one of my
    customers, so if they want google to spy on them and their IP, by all
    means!

    Personally, and in my own company, not a google or microsoft product
    as far as the eye can see! =D

    You listed Chromebooks and Android, now you are saying "Google?".

    Chromebooks are very cloud focused I think.

    I think they can be degoogled, just like android.

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  • From Salvador Mirzo@21:1/5 to Richmond on Wed Feb 26 21:17:09 2025
    Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver
    <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to
    Notepad
    =====================================================================

    for text editing, these freewares work superbly:

    libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite
    https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad
    https://jsimlo.sk/notepad


    Emacs can be run on Windows too.

    And I've used it for over ten years, which made me even enjoy Windows.
    I had to bring together a lot of programs, though. For instance, when
    you load ESHELL, you still need various UNIX programs to be comfortable
    such as find, cat and so on. Sure, ESHELL provides many replacements
    with built-in Lisp procedures, but not everything.

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  • From Salvador Mirzo@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed Feb 26 21:17:39 2025
    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025, D wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:19 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver
    <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
    After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad

    [...]

    Ahhh... wonderful news! Microsoft becoming more and more irrelevant
    for the desktop every year.

    I'm convinced they will eventually make windows free with
    surveillance, since no one will want to pay for the crap eventually.

    With android, chromebooks, linux, ipads, mac os there's plenty of way
    better options out there. I feel as if Microsoft, due to its cloud
    focus, is slowly losing their grip on the desktop market! =D

    It does feel that way.

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  • From Ian@21:1/5 to Stefan Ram on Thu Feb 27 08:49:30 2025
    On 2025-02-26, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
    Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted:
    If you want full access to Notepad, Microsoft now requires users to
    pay

    I've always grokked "Notepad" as bare-bones software that just
    has the rock-bottom essentials to qualify as a text editor.

    IIRC the original (Win 3 or earlier) "notepad" was little more than one of the sample programs in their SDK - a simple edit control with a menu and save/load. In the earlier versions this limited the size of the file it could edit to 32K.

    Tend to use Notepad++ when I have to do anything on Windows these days, though that's getting a bit too smart for my liking.

    vi and emacs ftw. (Yes, I use both :)

    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 26 20:15:41 2025
    Wine comes with a notepad app called Wine Notepad. Perhaps it would run
    on Windows?

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Salvador Mirzo on Fri Feb 28 12:13:28 2025
    Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> writes:

    And I've used it for over ten years, which made me even enjoy Windows.
    I had to bring together a lot of programs, though. For instance, when
    you load ESHELL, you still need various UNIX programs to be comfortable
    such as find, cat and so on.

    I think enjoying Windows is taking it a little too far. But I do enjoy
    Emacs, even in Windows, especially since I discovered ORG mode.

    For installing Emacs on Windows, in my opinion it's best done now from
    MSYS2. They even say this on https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html#nonfree

    "MSYS2 users can install Emacs (64bits build) with the following:

    pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs"

    So MSYS2 first for all the command line tools and others. The Konsole
    terminal is also now available via MSYS2.

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  • From Salvador Mirzo@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Fri Feb 28 15:41:59 2025
    Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> writes:

    Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> writes:

    And I've used it for over ten years, which made me even enjoy Windows.
    I had to bring together a lot of programs, though. For instance, when
    you load ESHELL, you still need various UNIX programs to be comfortable
    such as find, cat and so on.

    I think enjoying Windows is taking it a little too far. But I do enjoy
    Emacs, even in Windows, especially since I discovered ORG mode.

    For installing Emacs on Windows, in my opinion it's best done now from
    MSYS2. They even say this on https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/download.html#nonfree

    "MSYS2 users can install Emacs (64bits build) with the following:

    pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs"

    So MSYS2 first for all the command line tools and others. The Konsole terminal is also now available via MSYS2.

    I second that. Funny---Windows must behave like UNIX so that we can use
    it. :)

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Richmond on Sun Mar 2 05:42:39 2025
    On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:56:59 +0000, Richmond wrote:

    Emacs can be run on Windows too.

    Maybe not “run” on Windows, maybe more like “walk”.

    Maybe not “walk”, maybe more like “limp” on Windows.

    Maybe not “limp”, maybe more like “stumble” on Dimdows.

    Maybe not “stumble”, more like “fall down and have difficulty getting up again” ...

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Richmond on Wed Mar 5 21:30:04 2025
    Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote at 20:15 this Wednesday (GMT):
    Wine comes with a notepad app called Wine Notepad. Perhaps it would run
    on Windows?


    Oh, that's different from the "real" notepad? I thought it just copied
    the exe.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Wed Mar 5 21:30:03 2025
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 05:42 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:56:59 +0000, Richmond wrote:

    Emacs can be run on Windows too.

    Maybe not “run” on Windows, maybe more like “walk”.

    Maybe not “walk”, maybe more like “limp” on Windows.

    Maybe not “limp”, maybe more like “stumble” on Dimdows.

    Maybe not “stumble”, more like “fall down and have difficulty getting up
    again” ...


    There's always WSL, I guess.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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