• PC Market Recovery? What PC Market Recovery?

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 14 07:33:39 2025
    This article <https://www.computerworld.com/article/3959350/apples-macs-are-powering-the-pc-markets-recovery.html>
    quotes a Canalys research report to claim that “Apple’s Macs are
    powering the PC market’s recovery”.

    If you look at the Canalys report <https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/worldwide-pc-shipments-q1-2025>, it
    does seem like there has been an uptick compared to a year ago. But if
    you compare over the past three years, you will see that the overall
    trend remains downwards. In 2022, there was (near as I can estimate)
    something like 300 million PCs sold. Whereas over the last 4 quarters,
    that has fallen to less than 260 million.

    Further back over the years, I can remember when it was higher than
    that. There was a time when Intel was shipping about 360 million x86
    chips per year -- about a million per day. Those times are gone.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Tue Apr 15 03:05:05 2025
    On 2025-04-14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    This article
    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/3959350/apples-macs-are-powering-the-pc-markets-recovery.html>
    quotes a Canalys research report to claim that “Apple’s Macs are
    powering the PC market’s recovery”.

    If you look at the Canalys report
    <https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/worldwide-pc-shipments-q1-2025>, it
    does seem like there has been an uptick compared to a year ago. But if
    you compare over the past three years, you will see that the overall
    trend remains downwards. In 2022, there was (near as I can estimate) something like 300 million PCs sold. Whereas over the last 4 quarters,
    that has fallen to less than 260 million.

    Further back over the years, I can remember when it was higher than
    that. There was a time when Intel was shipping about 360 million x86
    chips per year -- about a million per day. Those times are gone.

    Back in 2005 or so, maybe even earlier, the value proposition in buying
    a computer was getting online, surfing the Information Superhighway™
    (ha, remember that?), exchanging email with distant friends, etc. And
    it was pretty exciting. These days, the things people most want from a communication device are delivered by phones, and having a computer
    isn't as useful. Even I toy with the idea of doing without, and I'm a
    nerd.

    Someday, a generation walking around with neural implants will laugh at
    how quaint it was we all needed to carry around a device with us, and occasionally lose it, drop it in the lake, etc.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Tue Apr 15 04:18:34 2025
    On 15 Apr 2025 03:05:05 GMT, Retrograde wrote:

    These days, the things people most want from a communication device
    are delivered by phones, and having a computer isn't as useful.

    Just a note that an Apple Iphone or Ipad may not be considered a “computer”, but an Android device certainly is.

    <https://www.zdnet.com/article/your-android-phone-will-run-debian-linux-soon-like-some-pixels-already-can/>

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