• [RUMOR] Apple getting ready for thired-party app stores

    From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 17:44:05 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    If true, we need to get ready for a deluge of crap-quality,
    malware-infested garbage coming to Apple devices ... just like already
    happens on Android and Windows. :-(
    (Apple of course already allows installing Mac apps from anywhere,
    although there is the Gatekeeper security to help keep out the worst
    malware.)



    Apple preparing for third-party app stores by 2024
    --------------------------------------------------
    Apple is reportedly bracing itself for European Union law changes
    that will come into force in 2024, and is preparing for third-party
    app stores to exist on the iPhone and iPad.

    The introduction of the Digital Markets Act by the EU will stands
    to cause major changes for app marketplace operators like Apple,
    specifically by allowing third-party app stores to exist on iPhone
    and iPad. With the rule changes on the horizon, Apple is said to be
    getting ready to fall into compliance.

    Engineers on software and services teams within Apple are allegedly
    pushing to open up a number of key parts of Apple's platforms to
    allow for future compliance with the rules, people familiar with
    the work told Bloomberg on Tuesday.

    The Digital Markets Act applies to companies who provide browsers,
    messaging services, or social media to at least 45 million monthly
    end users in the EU. At the same time, they must have 10,000 annual
    business users, a market cap of at least 75 billion euros
    ($82 billion) or a yearly turnover of 7.5 billion euros
    ($8.2 billion).

    The EU is expected to announce which companies classify as
    gatekeepers that must follow the rules in spring 2023, and will have
    six months to comply with the law. Due to Apple's size and vast
    customer base, it's almost certain that Apple will be part of that
    group.

    The report claims that the changes will enable third-party app
    stores to be used without the App Store itself. Doing so would
    allow apps to avoid Apple's various App Store-based restrictions
    for security and safety, as well as the 30% store commission it
    collects.

    Andreas Wendker, a VP reporting to Craig Federighi, as well as
    engineering manager Jeff Robbin who reports to Eddy Cue, are
    reportedly involved in the push.

    Apple is also claimed to be putting "a significant amount of
    resources" into the effort, though some engineers apparently see it
    as distracting from feature development.

    It is expected that the feature changes could arrive in an update
    to iOS 17.


    A "Just in case" move
    The report claiming that Apple is working to comply with a law in an
    area in which it does business makes sense from a preparatory
    standpoint. Apple starting to develop the ability to load apps from
    other sources outside the App Store is clearly being done to be in
    compliance with the EU laws mandating it.

    Apple will likely fight the requirement until the day it is required.
    The company has frequently called alternative stores and jailbreaking
    a security threat for users, and it seems unlikely to change its
    attitude regarding that position.

    Apple developing a solution to prepare for the future, does not mean
    that it will see the light of day. It also doesn't mean that it will
    make the ability available world-wide.

    Should it succeed in its fight, it probably won't launch at all.


    That's not all, folks
    While the App Store and side-loading will be the biggest scalps
    critics of Apple will claim from the Digital Markets Act changes,
    there are a number of other provisions that Apple will also have to
    deal with.

    For example, Apple will have to make changes to enable third-party
    payment platforms, rather than its own in-app payments system.

    It will also need to open up its various services and features to
    others, such as allowing app integration with iMessage, or to set
    another digital assistant as the default instead of Siri.

    Then there's access to hardware features typically restricted or
    blocked off to apps. This could include granting more access to the
    iPhone's NFC system, which would enable alternative wallet apps and
    payment systems to compete against Apple Pay directly on the iPhone
    itself.

    There can be changes that prevent Apple from giving its own apps
    preferential treatment over others, such as minimizing how Apple can
    promote Apple Music or Apple Arcade in the App Store.

    Other restrictions on default apps and forcing the use of specific
    frameworks or browser engines could also be lifted under the same
    alterations.

    There is a hefty incentive to compliance for Apple. Those who
    violate DMA rules could face a fine of up to 10% of their annual
    global turnover.



    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/12/13/apple-preparing-for-third-party-app-stores-by-2024>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Dec 13 22:52:27 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Your Name wrote:

    If true, we need to get ready for a deluge of crap-quality,
    malware-infested garbage coming to Apple devices ...

    Most everything on apple's "app store" is already crap-quality, so
    people may not notice anything new. I don't know if any has malware
    or viruses, but I've found little that was worth a damn.

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  • From sobriquet@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Dec 14 04:46:14 2022
    On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:44:10 AM UTC+1, Your Name wrote:
    If true, we need to get ready for a deluge of crap-quality,
    malware-infested garbage coming to Apple devices ... just like already happens on Android and Windows. :-(
    (Apple of course already allows installing Mac apps from anywhere,
    although there is the Gatekeeper security to help keep out the worst malware.)



    Apple preparing for third-party app stores by 2024 --------------------------------------------------
    Apple is reportedly bracing itself for European Union law changes
    that will come into force in 2024, and is preparing for third-party
    app stores to exist on the iPhone and iPad.

    The introduction of the Digital Markets Act by the EU will stands
    to cause major changes for app marketplace operators like Apple,
    specifically by allowing third-party app stores to exist on iPhone
    and iPad. With the rule changes on the horizon, Apple is said to be
    getting ready to fall into compliance.

    Engineers on software and services teams within Apple are allegedly
    pushing to open up a number of key parts of Apple's platforms to
    allow for future compliance with the rules, people familiar with
    the work told Bloomberg on Tuesday.

    The Digital Markets Act applies to companies who provide browsers,
    messaging services, or social media to at least 45 million monthly
    end users in the EU. At the same time, they must have 10,000 annual
    business users, a market cap of at least 75 billion euros
    ($82 billion) or a yearly turnover of 7.5 billion euros
    ($8.2 billion).

    The EU is expected to announce which companies classify as
    gatekeepers that must follow the rules in spring 2023, and will have
    six months to comply with the law. Due to Apple's size and vast
    customer base, it's almost certain that Apple will be part of that
    group.

    The report claims that the changes will enable third-party app
    stores to be used without the App Store itself. Doing so would
    allow apps to avoid Apple's various App Store-based restrictions
    for security and safety, as well as the 30% store commission it
    collects.

    Andreas Wendker, a VP reporting to Craig Federighi, as well as
    engineering manager Jeff Robbin who reports to Eddy Cue, are
    reportedly involved in the push.

    Apple is also claimed to be putting "a significant amount of
    resources" into the effort, though some engineers apparently see it
    as distracting from feature development.

    It is expected that the feature changes could arrive in an update
    to iOS 17.


    A "Just in case" move
    The report claiming that Apple is working to comply with a law in an
    area in which it does business makes sense from a preparatory
    standpoint. Apple starting to develop the ability to load apps from
    other sources outside the App Store is clearly being done to be in
    compliance with the EU laws mandating it.

    Apple will likely fight the requirement until the day it is required.
    The company has frequently called alternative stores and jailbreaking
    a security threat for users, and it seems unlikely to change its
    attitude regarding that position.

    Apple developing a solution to prepare for the future, does not mean
    that it will see the light of day. It also doesn't mean that it will
    make the ability available world-wide.

    Should it succeed in its fight, it probably won't launch at all.


    That's not all, folks
    While the App Store and side-loading will be the biggest scalps
    critics of Apple will claim from the Digital Markets Act changes,
    there are a number of other provisions that Apple will also have to
    deal with.

    For example, Apple will have to make changes to enable third-party
    payment platforms, rather than its own in-app payments system.

    It will also need to open up its various services and features to
    others, such as allowing app integration with iMessage, or to set
    another digital assistant as the default instead of Siri.

    Then there's access to hardware features typically restricted or
    blocked off to apps. This could include granting more access to the
    iPhone's NFC system, which would enable alternative wallet apps and
    payment systems to compete against Apple Pay directly on the iPhone
    itself.

    There can be changes that prevent Apple from giving its own apps
    preferential treatment over others, such as minimizing how Apple can
    promote Apple Music or Apple Arcade in the App Store.

    Other restrictions on default apps and forcing the use of specific
    frameworks or browser engines could also be lifted under the same alterations.

    There is a hefty incentive to compliance for Apple. Those who
    violate DMA rules could face a fine of up to 10% of their annual
    global turnover.



    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/12/13/apple-preparing-for-third-party-app-stores-by-2024>

    The apple app store has always been full of garbage.. it can't get much worse if the apple crime syndicate is forced to end their app store monopoly.

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 15 05:04:09 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:52:27 +1100, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    Your Name wrote:
    If true, we need to get ready for a deluge of crap-quality,
    malware-infested garbage coming to Apple devices ...

    Most everything on apple's "app store" is already crap-quality, so
    people may not notice anything new. I don't know if any has malware or viruses, but I've found little that was worth a damn.

    I have found quite a few free ones which are not crap and are useful.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Wed Dec 14 13:30:40 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:52:27 +1100, Hank Rogers
    <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    Your Name wrote:
     If true, we need to get ready for a deluge of crap-quality,
    malware-infested garbage coming to Apple devices ...

    Most everything on apple's "app store" is already crap-quality,
    so people may not notice anything new. I don't know if any has
    malware or viruses, but I've found little that was worth a damn.

    I have found quite a few free ones which are not crap and are useful.

    Yeah, there are some very good free ones, but not too many.

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