• Re: hypothetical situation

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sticks on Mon Mar 6 02:15:07 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    sticks wrote:

    On 3/5/2023 7:07 PM, badgolferman wrote:
    Just play along. None of this will happen.

    Which would be worse¡Kif you had to switch to an Android phone¡Kor if you got
    to keep your iPhone, but had to admit Arlen is right about everything he
    said?

    Arlen who?


    Arlen is some guy who is well educated and who has been on this newsgroup
    for decades. He came here once, long ago, to ask for help and a bunch of
    iKooks fabricated imaginary functionality much like the lemon juice bank
    robber assumed that disappearing ink would work and yet it clearly didn't.

    As Dunning & Kruger's interest was piqued when they realized this person
    truly thought the strange things he did, but based on absolutely zero facts (only what he was told), this rather intelligent Arlen guy (who has a lot
    of old textbooks books they say) studies why the strange people on this newsgroup act the peculiar way they do as it's behavior not found on the Windows, Linux, or Android newsgroups to always defend the mothership to
    the death - even to the point of brazen lies about imaginary functionality.

    Just wait... he'll show up soon I'm sure... but if not, rest assured he'll
    do a fact check on each and every far-fetched claim the iKooks manufacture.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sun Mar 5 22:22:04 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Andy Burnelli wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 3/5/2023 7:07 PM, badgolferman wrote:
    Just play along. None of this will happen.

    Which would be worse¡Kif you had to switch to an Android
    phone¡Kor if you got
    to keep your iPhone, but had to admit Arlen is right about
    everything he
    said?

    Arlen who?


    Arlen is some guy who is well educated and who has been on this
    newsgroup
    for decades. He came here once, long ago, to ask for help and a
    bunch of
    iKooks fabricated imaginary functionality much like the lemon juice
    bank
    robber assumed that disappearing ink would work and yet it clearly
    didn't.

    As Dunning & Kruger's interest was piqued when they realized this
    person
    truly thought the strange things he did, but based on absolutely
    zero facts
    (only what he was told), this rather intelligent Arlen guy (who has
    a lot
    of old textbooks books they say) studies why the strange people on
    this
    newsgroup act the peculiar way they do as it's behavior not found
    on the
    Windows, Linux, or Android newsgroups to always defend the
    mothership to
    the death - even to the point of brazen lies about imaginary
    functionality.

    Just wait... he'll show up soon I'm sure... but if not, rest
    assured he'll
    do a fact check on each and every far-fetched claim the iKooks
    manufacture.

    Indeed. A true pathological iKook obsession.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Mon Mar 6 15:37:00 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan Browne wrote:

    If I had to switch to an Android phone (which is not an impossibility),
    it would still be wrong about most everything it spouts.

    For _adults_ on this ng (admittedly, only a handful), I'm providing a free psychological & behavioral analysis of Alan Browne's stated convictions...

    I kindly & generously place these assessments in the permanent record.

    Being intelligent and curious and always learning based on observable
    facts, I study iKooks - where Alan Browne is as classic as is Jolly Roger.

    Adults will note these facts (and my assessment of those facts).

    FACT 1: Alan Browne uses "it" for a person he doesn't appear to like.
    FACT 2: Alan Browne provides a sweeping view sans a single fact.
    FACT 3: Alan Browne says _everything_ is wrong (which is unrealistic).

    Assessment:
    a. Alan Brown owns the brain of a small child (seriously, no joking).
    b. Alan Brown is forming a belief system based on zero actual facts.
    c. Alan Brown doesn't seem to care about (nor understand) his credibility.

    When you put it together with all the other information we know about this
    Alan Browne iKook, it's no different than what Alan Baker or Lewis says.

    The iKooks like Alan Brown all suffer from the same class flaws:
    1. No education and low IQ means lack of adult comprehensive skills.
    2. Inability to process facts means they gravitate to religious messages.
    3. Only Apple hasn't told them they were stupid their entire lives
    so they use Apple as a way to bring them out of their low class.

    Now, to the point that Alan Brown "thinks" he made (sans any facts),
    I made the point that the iPhone has had more zero day bugs than Android.

    That's simply a fact, right?
    So that's one he can't disprove.

    I could go on, for example, there is no way to do graphical wi-fi signal strength debugging on iOS for all wi-fi access points in the vicinity.

    That's simply a fact, right?
    So that's another one he can't disprove.

    Notice that Alan Browne, like all iKooks, simply _hates_ facts.
    Why?

    Because when you own a belief system NOT based on facts, then facts are the most dangerous thing to your strongly held (religious) beliefs, right?

    Alan Browne not only hates facts - but he hates the bearer of fact.
    So much that he uses the most clever of all insults he can come up with.

    Hehhehheh... "it"... (wow, that's clever, isn't it).

    As to keeping my iPhone, the troll is not part of my decision.

    As far as I'm aware, on this newsgroup only Steve and I habitually switch between Android and iOS (is that right - or do others switch all the time)?

    The ecosystems are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT in almost every way imaginable.

    In fact, if you are intelligent about the comparison, iOS is completely different from _every_ common consumer operating system. (Even macOS.)

    Mostly it's in the walled garden, which, Alan Browne, characteristically
    and quite tellingly, insists with religious fervor that it doesn't exist.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to analyze why Alan Browne does what he does.

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  • From allen@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Mon Mar 6 08:51:20 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> said:

    Indeed. A true pathological iKook obsession.

    I saw a post from him today on the ipad battery health status.
    It was pretty detailed. Screenshots. Links. Analysis results.
    The whole works.

    Here is the message id.
    Subject: Re: ipad battery drain rapidly increased in the last week.
    Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 16:42:00 +0000
    Message-ID: <tu554c$3ltka$1@paganini.bofh.team>

    Would you kindly point to one of your own posts that has that kind of Apple information which is relevant and useful to those of us on this ng?

    Or are you here merely for your own childish amusement?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to allen on Mon Mar 6 09:24:08 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-03-06 08:51, allen wrote:
    Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> said:

    Indeed. A true pathological iKook obsession.

    I saw a post from him today on the ipad battery health status.
    It was pretty detailed. Screenshots. Links. Analysis results.
    The whole works.

    Here is the message id.
    Subject: Re: ipad battery drain rapidly increased in the last week.
    Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 16:42:00 +0000
    Message-ID: <tu554c$3ltka$1@paganini.bofh.team>

    You mean this post:

    "paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3864202"; posting-host="lEwlLJml6uqK8gbfPRpnTw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";"


    Would you kindly point to one of your own posts that has that kind of Apple information which is relevant and useful to those of us on this ng?

    Or are you here merely for your own childish amusement?

    Interesting how the "posting-account" infor matches this:

    "Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3866009"; posting-host="sZAbjFs/LMCY+DW79pTGzQ.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";"

    Which is from the post you just made...

    ...Arlen.

    Don't you think that's interesting?

    :-)

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  • From paul@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Mar 6 18:59:58 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Alan wrote on 06.03.2023 17:24
    Interesting how the "posting-account" infor matches this:

    may I call you el stupido?

    every post from anyone using that same newsserver matches that.
    it hasn't changed in the ten years since that server started.

    look at every post from that server in news.admin.peering or news.admin.net-abuse.usenet or alt.checkmate or alt.usenet.kooks or
    alt.slack or any of the tens of thousands of usenet newsgroups.


    take it up with the news server admin if you don't like how Ivo runs his
    news server authentication process.

    Here's what you can say to Ivo.

    From: el stupido <stupido@stupido.com>
    To: Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team>

    Hello Ivo Gandolfo, admin of the bofh server.
    I am el stupido and I don't like how you do your headers.

    Signed,
    el stupido

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue Mar 7 11:28:34 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 at 12:07:00, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
    (my responses usually follow points raised):
    Alan Browne wrote:

    If I had to switch to an Android phone (which is not an impossibility),
    it would still be wrong about most everything it spouts.

    For _adults_ on this ng (admittedly, only a handful), I'm providing a free psychological & behavioral analysis of Alan Browne's stated convictions...

    I kindly & generously place these assessments in the permanent record.

    Being intelligent and curious and always learning based on observable
    facts, I study iKooks - where Alan Browne is as classic as is Jolly Roger.

    Adults will note these facts (and my assessment of those facts).

    FACT 1: Alan Browne uses "it" for a person he doesn't appear to like.
    FACT 2: Alan Browne provides a sweeping view sans a single fact.
    FACT 3: Alan Browne says _everything_ is wrong (which is unrealistic).

    Assessment:
    a. Alan Brown owns the brain of a small child (seriously, no joking).
    b. Alan Brown is forming a belief system based on zero actual facts.
    c. Alan Brown doesn't seem to care about (nor understand) his credibility.

    When you put it together with all the other information we know about this Alan Browne iKook, it's no different than what Alan Baker or Lewis says.

    The iKooks like Alan Brown all suffer from the same class flaws:
    1. No education and low IQ means lack of adult comprehensive skills.
    2. Inability to process facts means they gravitate to religious messages.
    3. Only Apple hasn't told them they were stupid their entire lives
    so they use Apple as a way to bring them out of their low class.

    Now, to the point that Alan Brown "thinks" he made (sans any facts),
    I made the point that the iPhone has had more zero day bugs than Android.

    That's simply a fact, right?
    So that's one he can't disprove.

    I could go on, for example, there is no way to do graphical wi-fi signal strength debugging on iOS for all wi-fi access points in the vicinity.

    That's simply a fact, right?
    So that's another one he can't disprove.

    Notice that Alan Browne, like all iKooks, simply _hates_ facts.
    Why?

    Because when you own a belief system NOT based on facts, then facts are the most dangerous thing to your strongly held (religious) beliefs, right?

    Alan Browne not only hates facts - but he hates the bearer of fact.
    So much that he uses the most clever of all insults he can come up with.

    Hehhehheh... "it"... (wow, that's clever, isn't it).

    As to keeping my iPhone, the troll is not part of my decision.

    As far as I'm aware, on this newsgroup only Steve and I habitually switch between Android and iOS (is that right - or do others switch all the time)?

    The ecosystems are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT in almost every way imaginable.

    In fact, if you are intelligent about the comparison, iOS is completely different from _every_ common consumer operating system. (Even macOS.)

    Mostly it's in the walled garden, which, Alan Browne, characteristically
    and quite tellingly, insists with religious fervor that it doesn't exist.

    Put alan brown in the killfile & you won't have to see his brown's absurd statements nor his sig which is indicative of his character is like trumps.

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