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  • Re: There is zero app functionality on iOS not already on Android - not

    From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed Apr 5 16:26:07 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On 4/5/2023 3:37 PM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>

    There are two things on iOS which I wonder if Android can do. I don’t know and am asking you Arlen.

    My hearing aids can be controlled by built in iOS functionality, and iOS actually can do much more than the Signia app which comes with it. I was
    told by the audiologist at the VA that this can’t be done in Android.

    iOS also has the Shortcuts app which allows you to program several steps to be performed by one icon. For example I have set up two Shortcuts to automatically switch my phone between 5G and LTE without having to go
    through the Settings submenus. Just tap the icon and it does all the rest.

    1. On Android there is no option to turn the speakerphone on by default.
    There is an app that can do this on older versions of Android but it
    doesn't work beginning with Android 11.

    2. No 5G n53 band (Globalstar).

    3. No Bluetooth audio sharing (except Samsung S, Z, and Note devices).

    4. Place and receive phone calls on computer or tablet.

    5. Act as an Air Tag when turned off.

    6. MagSafe.

    --
    “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
    really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
    indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
    they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com on Wed Apr 5 17:04:00 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 22:37:22 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    My hearing aids can be controlled by built in iOS functionality, and iOS >actually can do much more than the Signia app which comes with it. I was
    told by the audiologist at the VA that this cant be done in Android.


    I don't know what hearing aids you have, but mine (Philips, bought at
    Costco) can be controlled by my Android phone (not built-in; I had to
    install the program)

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Thu Apr 6 12:58:59 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android

    In article <u0mt2i$dvaa$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:


    Unfortunately, due to changes in Android OS, starting at Android 11, the
    app is unable to turn the speaker on or off during a call.

    looks like android cripples functionality.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to AJL on Wed Apr 12 01:22:17 2023
    XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    AJL wrote:

    I don't use Chrome as an operating system so may I ask if Chrome also >>limits the applications that are available to you

    Yup. To the Play Store.

    Chrome uses the exact same debilitating crippling concept that iOS uses.
    The problem with that is the best apps are NOT in the Play Store, IMHO.

    For example, Chrome and iOS share the same crippling of apps, where the
    _best_ apps on the planet will _never_ be offered to the users, such as:

    *NewPipe* by Schabi (FOSS YouTube client)
    <https://newpipe.net/>


    And is that approved subset missing huge functional areas

    Dunno. I haven't tried all the millions of apps available yet.

    Chrome uses the exact same debilitating crippling concept that iOS uses.

    Try to find the official Tor Browser, or, oh, say, Ungoogled Chromium:
    *Ungoogled Chromium*
    <https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium-android>

    *Bromite*
    <https://www.bromite.org/>
    <https://github.com/bromite/bromite>

    They do that to restrict your choice - which is fine if you're that type of person who wants a mothership to lock you inside a prison on your device.

    If Chrome is also lacking in functional apps, what good is it as an OS?

    The only apps I've found Chrome lacking in so far is Usenet newsreaders.
    This one sucks and it's the best I've found so far. But for the average Joe
    the OS likely performs just fine...]

    Chrome uses the exact same debilitating crippling concept that iOS uses.
    If you've only found one functionality lacking, that simply means you're
    like most iOS and Chrome users (they're essentially the same thing).

    Most iOS users only play games on their iPhones.
    Zero iOS users do wireless debugging, for example.

    Given both iOS and Chrome are toy operating systems, for the type of person
    who only play games & makes phone calls, those operating systems work fine.

    But you can't expect toy operating systems such as iOS & Chrome to do
    actual technical work such as spoofing the location, using alternative app stores, wireless and cellular debugging, automatic call recording, etc.

    In summary, both Chrome & iOS use the same debilitating crippling of apps. Developers are NOT ALLOWED to provide the user the apps they might want.

    That's horrible.
    But for a Chrome and iOS user, that's NOT horrible.

    They actually like being crippled.
    Makes no sense to me - but iOS users and Chrome users exist.

    So being crippled makes sense... to iOS & to Chrome users.
    A crippled device makes them feel safe.

    And that's OK.

    As long as they comprehend that Chrome & iOS can't do real work.
    But not being able to do anything, makes Chrome & iOS users feel safe.

    And again, that's OK.
    Chrome/iOS users feel safe because the operating system is crippled.

    *The crippling of the device... is literally what makes them feel safe.*

    Most people on both Chrome & iOS are _afraid_ of the device, so it works
    for them; but locking everyone in these choice-restricted prisons isn't for those people who use the device as something other than to just play games.

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