In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 2 Aug 2023 10:24:39 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2023 9:56 AM, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:31:25 -0700, sms
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I might have to do that. How do I do that?
See <https://techwiser.com/extract-apk-android/>
Thanks. I will need this for my next phone, since the two loud ringtone
apps that I like are no longer in the appstore, afaict. They redid the appstore format a few months ago and I don't like it anymore.
Backing up & re-installing apps on a new phone is yet another instance
where iOS is so brain dead that you have to wonder why people use it.
On 2023-08-02 14:49, Wally J wrote:
Backing up & re-installing apps on a new phone is yet another instance
where iOS is so brain dead that you have to wonder why people use it.
Which is about as relevant as you are (very low).
When I bought my last iPhone I had zero care about what app versions I
was bringing along.
. backed up my old iPhone.
. bought my new iPhone
. retrieved all of my data from backup
. downloaded and installed the apps I need and want.
No looking back and silly ass edge cases as you present are really not important for the vast majority of smartphone users, Apple or other.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 2 Aug 2023 10:24:39 -0700, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2023 9:56 AM, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:31:25 -0700, sms
<snip>
I might have to do that. How do I do that?
See <https://techwiser.com/extract-apk-android/>
Thanks. I will need this for my next phone, since the two loud ringtone
apps that I like are no longer in the appstore, afaict. They redid the
appstore format a few months ago and I don't like it anymore.
Steve needs to add this to his list of all the things broken in iOS.
How to move app from old phone to new phone? https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/F49T9WQSh-E
Backing up & re-installing apps on a new phone is yet another instance
where iOS is so brain dead that you have to wonder why people use it.
In most cases it's _impossible_ to bring over to the new iOS device the
same app version that you had on the old iOS device - while that same task
is trivial on Android by all the various methods described in this thread.
The iPhone is essentially broken when it comes to reinstalling apps that
are no longer on the app store (or whose version you like isn't there).
Furthermore, in addition to the half dozen methods already noted to re-install free apps on _any_ Android phone that are on one phone...
the iOS IPAs are all locked by Apple to one device alone (family account).
Hence it's imposissible to do with iOS what is trivial to do with Android.
For example, a simple method to SAVE EVERY APK automatically on Android is
to use the Aurora front end to the Google Play Store to get those apps. https://auroraoss.com/
That automatically saves the FULL INSTALLER onto your sd card for you.
And it gets them from the official Google Play Store (exact same app).
Just like any YouTube player will get the exact same videos from youTube. http://newpipe.net
It's the same app.
From the same place.
The MAIN DIFFERENCE is that the filter is vastly better - which is yet another thing which is impossible to do on iOS - but trivial on Android.
Another key difference is you can automaticalldy SAVE EVERY APK at the time you install it (actually, technically, you don't delete what was saved).
All this is impossible on the brain-dead Apple platforms which Steve should be listing in his description becuase reinstalling apps is important.
Every app you install using the Aurora front end to the Google Play Store app, is saved wherever you set it to save it (internal or external memory).
When you get a new phone, you pop out the sdcard temporarily and put it
into the new phone and tap onto each of the previously saved full APKs.
Then you can return the sdcard to the original phone like it was before.
Or leave the sdcard in the new phone (another thing iPhones just can't do).
Steve should add that capability to re-install all the original apps to his comparison between Android and iOS since only Android autosaves the APK.
Steve should add that capability to re-install all the original apps to his >> comparison between Android and iOS since only Android autosaves the APK.
So you don't like Apple--- fine. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
What say you go buy yourself an Android and GTF off this newsgroup ;-)
. backed up my old iPhone.
This is the part that must be manually done or you're _dead_ on iOS.
With Android, there is _never_ a need to back up the apps.
They're already automatically backed up for you.
And... better yet... you can use them on _any_ Android phone in the world. With the Apple walled garden, you can only use them on _your_ Apple ID.
. bought my new iPhone
. retrieved all of my data from backup
When you say data, bear in mind we're talking about the apps themselves.
They need to go EXACTLY in the same spot they were in the old phone.
. downloaded and installed the apps I need and want.
Notice you can't do that if the app no longer exists on the app store.
Backing up & re-installing apps on a new phone is yet another instance
where iOS is so brain dead that you have to wonder why people use it.
Which is about as relevant as you are (very low).
When I bought my last iPhone I had zero care about what app versions I
was bringing along.
. backed up my old iPhone.
. bought my new iPhone
. retrieved all of my data from backup
. downloaded and installed the apps I need and want.
No looking back and silly ass edge cases as you present are really not important for the vast majority of smartphone users, Apple or other.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
Backing up & re-installing apps on a new phone is yet another instance
where iOS is so brain dead that you have to wonder why people use it.
Which is about as relevant as you are (very low).
Notice I simply tell the truth about Apple products, which you feel is such
a dire threat to your imaginary belief system that you resort to insults.
2. As with most people micky had no backup (which isn't needed on Android).
This is the part that must be manually done or you're _dead_ on iOS.
nope. it's automatic.
He said "nobody wants it" and it's "not needed".
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
Backing up & re-installing apps on a new phone is yet another instance
where iOS is so brain dead that you have to wonder why people use it.
Which is about as relevant as you are (very low).
Notice I simply tell the truth about Apple products, which you feel is such
a dire threat to your imaginary belief system that you resort to insults.
Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote
Steve should add that capability to re-install all the original apps to his >>> comparison between Android and iOS since only Android autosaves the APK.
So you don't like Apple--- fine. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
Apple zealots think it's about "liking" Apple because that's how you think.
You're a religious zealot who, for example, is a Muslim so you claim that anyone who says the truth about Mohammad(1) must not "like" your prophet.
You're so religiously wedded to Islam that you think anyone who ever tells the truth must be an extreme danger to you - which is _why_ nospam lied.
The truth is always dangerous to people who own purely religious beliefs.
What say you go buy yourself an Android and GTF off this newsgroup ;-)
What I said was the truth about Apple.
Steve also said the truth.
On the other hand, nospam lied.
Why?
For you religious zealots, the truth is extremely dangerous.
*You iZealots _hate_ the truth about Apple products*
Worse... you hate anyone bearing the truth.
You'll do anything in the world to make the truth about Apple just go away.
Because Apple zealots fear the truth more than anything else in the world.
What say you go buy yourself an Android and GTF off this newsgroup ;-)
On iPhone and iPad there is a way to transfer an app from an old device
to a new device if the app is no longer available on the App Store. The iMazing app (for Windows and MacOS) lets you do the app transfer between
two iDevices,
He said "nobody wants it" and it's "not needed".
I did not say that. I said that is the case for most people. Face it,
an iPhone or Android or any other smartphone is a convenient appliance.
Does many useful, helpful and even amazing things for all of us - but
it's not a thing most people want to waste a lot of time on the "care"
of it.
The few who do can do whatever they like and if that suits them best in Android or iPhone or elsewhere, then so be it.
Let him advise you on your mental health status ... and if he prescribes drugs, it's something to take seriously.
On iPhone and iPad there is a way to transfer an app from an old device
to a new device if the app is no longer available on the App Store. The iMazing app (for Windows and MacOS) lets you do the app transfer between
two iDevices, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP5kXX7AIu4. Hopefully
this still works.
once again you are talking about things you do not understand.
Most religions contend: We are right, everyone else is wrong, we are
better than you.
Sorta' sounds like your posts, eh what.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
He said "nobody wants it" and it's "not needed".
I did not say that. I said that is the case for most people. Face it,
an iPhone or Android or any other smartphone is a convenient appliance.
Please don't disagree with the truth about Apple.
All I'm saying is the truth about the iPhone, which, for the TOPIC of
moving an app from one phone to another, is completely brain dead for iOS.
All I'm saying is the truth about the iPhone, which, for the TOPIC of
moving an app from one phone to another, is completely brain dead for iOS.
I don't accept a model where an app that is potentially compromised ("infected") on one device be blindly copied to another.
Further, the use case you promote is (as you well know) a cherry picked
edge case that you run up the flagpole, but is in reality nothing most
people do on Android.
A real life case in point, my SO's son recently bought a new Android
phone and sat there _downloading_ new copies of his various apps from
Google Play and some other site. Then he sent his data over from his
old phone. He is not a computer whiz of any kind and represents the
more common smartphone user: just wants a smartphone that does x as
simply and reliably as possible.
I buy a new iPhone every 5 years (possibly 6 or more with the current
phone doing so well), so I really prefer a clean start in everything (as
I do with my computers whether at home or at work).
But you do you, which appears to be cherry picking all day long.
blindly copied to another.I get it that you're claiming "malware" on Android (which is easily
avoided), but at the same time you forget the truth that your beloved
iPhone has twice as many zero-day zero-click holes & a whopping ten times
as many actual exploits.
Further, the use case you promote is (as you well know) a cherry picked edge case that you run up the flagpole, but is in reality nothing most people do on Android.
It's not an edge case to want to move apps from one phone to another.
Google is usually what people are using when they move their "data".
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