• Re: The iPhone has won over casual users.

    From Wally J@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Fri Sep 1 20:02:29 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote

    the last line. I suppose the rest of you have most of these message
    threads killfiled, so I end up alone trying to joke with a sociopath.
    Shame on me!

    I foolishly engaged with it and it did what it always does, so back to ignoring it.

    What is revealing is Alan Browne uses his kindergarten skills to claim a
    person is an "it" which proves everything I say about the iKooks like Alan Browne owning the comprehensive skills & IQ of a small uneducated child.

    nospam ==> constantly claims Samsung made Apple do all the bad things
    Jolly Roger ==> viciously attacks anyone who says the truth about Apple
    Alan Browne ==> is so ignorant he has never heard of the walled garden

    If just those 3 uneducated ignorant iKooks left this newsgroup, it would be normal (like the Android and Windows operating system newsgroups are).

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sat Sep 2 01:23:25 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-09-02, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote

    the last line. I suppose the rest of you have most of these message
    threads killfiled, so I end up alone trying to joke with a sociopath.
    Shame on me!

    I foolishly engaged with it and it did what it always does, so back to
    ignoring it.

    kindergarten skills
    iKooks
    skills & IQ of a small uneducated child
    so ignorant he has never heard of the walled garden
    uneducated ignorant iKooks

    Arlen's "wisdom", everyone! 🤡

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 2 12:59:32 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Android users dislike SMS messages.

    WTF? Android users dislike SMS? Since when?

    I've been on the Android newsgroup for years and NOBODY says they dislike
    SMS messages, Jolly Roger... Nobody.

    Methinks you're ignorant if that's all you have to respond to facts.


    Since you're ignorant

    Actually, it is Android users who bitch and moan about iMessage who are
    the true ignoramuses.

    You have a short memory because we proved, long ago, it's only the Apple
    users who are forced to use a single default messenger app who complain.

    Apparently they don't know about your vaunted PulseSMS...

    Notice how iKooks are not only completely ignorant that the Android
    messengers do everything that the iMessage app does - but - in response to
    that fact (which they hate!) iKooks respond with stunted childish insults.

    Don't care.

    *Facts about Apple _scare_ you to death, don't they Jolly Roger*

    Tell us, Jolly Roger, what iMessages does that PulseSMS doesn't do.

    Go cry to someone who does.

    1. Jolly Roger ===> Responds to all facts about Apple with insults
    2. nospam ===> Deflects all facts about Apple to whataboutism tactics
    3. Alan Browne ===> Completely ignorant of even the walled garden

    Remove the iKooks from the Apple newsgroups and this ng would elevate
    instantly to the communicative discourse of _adult OS newsgroups_.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 2 12:50:22 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    your public masturbation is not welcome in the Apple new groups

    Find another place where your dick is appreciated

    If only... We can dream!

    <https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
    "Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires browsers on iOS
    to use something called Webkit, which prevents Onion Browser
    from having the same privacy protections as Tor Browser."

    *It's clear iKooks _hate_ all facts about Apple products.*

    Such that iKooks react to facts with their stunted child-like insults.
    So be it.

    1. Jolly Roger ===> Responds to all facts about Apple with insults
    2. nospam ===> Deflects all facts about Apple to whataboutism tactics
    3. Alan Browne ===> Completely ignorant of even the walled garden

    Remove those three ignorant iKooks from this newsgroup and the
    conversations would elevate to the level of the adult OS newsgroups.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sat Sep 2 18:18:27 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-09-02, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Android users dislike SMS messages.

    WTF? Android users dislike SMS? Since when?

    Little Arlen *desperately* wants to pretend he doesn't now the context
    of the above statement is Android users participating in chats with
    iMessage users. Luckily adults understand context even when little Arlen pretends it doesn't exist. And the fact is Android users have complained
    about being limited to plain SMS communications when conversing with
    iMessage users for many years. Here's an example of one such person from
    way back in 2015:

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidMasterRace/comments/3l4eyh/anyone_know_how_to_get_imessage_on_android/>
    ---
    Anyone know how to get iMessage on Android?

    Before you hate, the reason im asking is because lots of my friends are
    in group chats in iMessage, and you cant add an SMS contact into a group
    chat. So if there;s a way, and you know it, feel free to reply to the
    thread. Thanks
    ---

    Android users have even gone so far as to use apps with servers in China
    to avoid using SMS when conversing with iMessage users. Here's an
    article from 2013 warning Andoird users of the security and privacy implications of using such an app:

    iMessage for Android looks like a great way to compromise your security <https://www.theverge.com/2013/9/24/4765240/imessage-chat-for-android-spoof-app>

    Methinks you're ignorant if that's all you have to respond to facts.

    Projection from a brain-dead Apple-hating troll. To wit, little Arlen
    actually believes Apple users can't use other popular messaging apps:

    it's only the Apple users who are forced to use a single default
    messenger app

    LOL! Arlen is a true
  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 2 15:02:45 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Anyone know how to get iMessage on Android?

    Adult question...

    What do you think you can do with iMessage that PulseSMS doesn't do?
    <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sat Sep 2 15:12:52 2023
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    On 2023-09-02 15:02, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Anyone know how to get iMessage on Android?

    Adult question...

    What do you think you can do with iMessage that PulseSMS doesn't do?
    <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>

    I thought signing into a "mothership" was a bad thing, Arlen...

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sat Sep 2 15:16:41 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-09-02 12:50, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    your public masturbation is not welcome in the Apple new groups

    Find another place where your dick is appreciated

    If only... We can dream!

    <https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
    "Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires browsers on iOS
    to use something called Webkit, which prevents Onion Browser
    from having the same privacy protections as Tor Browser."


    You notice they don't elucidate what those "same privacy protections"
    are that you can't get...

    ...Arlen.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Sep 3 01:00:00 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-09-02, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-02 15:02, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Anyone know how to get iMessage on Android?

    Adult question...

    What do you think you can do with iMessage that PulseSMS doesn't do?

    I thought signing into a "mothership" was a bad thing, Arlen...

    Only when *other* people do it, silly. 😉

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 2 22:51:09 2023
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    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    I thought signing into a "mothership" was a bad thing

    Only when *other* people do it, silly.

    In both cases, you're signing into the mothership to get the functionality.

    Now back to the ADULT QUESTION for Jolly Roger...

    *What do you think you can do with iMessage that PulseSMS doesn't do?*
    <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/>

    HINT: You're afraid of the question, aren't you.

    You know why?
    I do.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sun Sep 3 03:19:06 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-09-02 22:51, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    I thought signing into a "mothership" was a bad thing

    Only when *other* people do it, silly.

    In both cases, you're signing into the mothership to get the functionality.

    Except you touted the functionality of one...

    ...while decrying the other.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Wally J on Wed Oct 4 21:47:10 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote

    1. Jolly Roger ===> Responds to all facts about Apple with insults
    2. nospam ===> Deflects all facts about Apple to whataboutism tactics
    3. Alan Browne ===> Completely ignorant of even the walled garden

    More whataboutism today from the Apple people desperate to blame everyone
    but Apple for the fact that iOS has two to three times the zero-day holes!

    Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote

    Hint: No smartphone OS is anywhere nearly as insecure as iOS is.
    (hackers don't even need to be within a thousand miles of your phone to
    completely and fully take it over any time they want to - for years!)

    In other news, Android has released it's latest security update:

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/android-october-security- update-fixes-zero-days-exploited-in-attacks/
    Including fixes for "54 unique vulnerabilities, including two known to be actively exploited." Of the 54 fixes concerning Android 11 through 13, five are rated critical, and two concern remote code execution problems.

    It's classic for Apple users to blame everyone but Apple for the flaws in
    Apple devices. It's called "whataboutism" & only Apple users do it.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism>

    I know exactly why you used whataboutism to defend against Apple's flaw.
    I wonder if you do?

    Probably not.
    Let's just say that only Apple people do what you just did, Dorper.

    Adults don't do it. Specifically...

    You'll _never_ see someone on Android doing what you just did, Dorper.
    Nor on Windows newsgroups.

    Only Apple newsgroups.
    Where almost every "excuse" for Apple's flaws is whataboutism incarnate.

    This "whataboutism" of blaming everyone but Apple _starts with Apple_
    and it's a hallmark of Apple users to blame others for Apple's flaws.

    *Why don't we look at the zero-day holes in iOS*, Dorper.
    Shall we?

    I get it you are desperate to defend Apple's honor, but then you must know
    how many zero-day bugs Apple had this year (and every year!) compared to Android, right?

    No?
    You don't know?

    Hmmmm.... classic.

    Here... allow me to help you to think logically & sensibly, OK?

    What you're _not_ saying is that iOS has had 17 zero-days this year alone - which is something like two to three times the zero-days of Android last we checked (since this happens every year).

    By definition, a zero day is a bug that Apple forgot to find in testing.
    Right?

    So that's two to three times (every year - year after year) that Apple's
    iOS has zero-day holes that Apple forgot to find in their iOS 'testing'.

    HINT: That's a lot!

    Why... might you ask... is iOS always two to three times less secure?
    I (think I) know why.

    Do you?
    --
    Note: We've already discussed that this doesn't even count the _exploited_
    zero days, where you dispute that iOS has _ten times_ the active exploits!

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