*Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point -
the iKooks have all been completely IGNORANT for years about Apple*
The iKooks set the narrative for this ng to their child-like imaginary
belief systems - which - when you dig deeper - are devoid of any fact!
If adults didn't provide the truth about Apple on this newsgroup, it
would still be filled with the imaginary belief system of the iKooks.
1. For years, child-like iKooks claimed Apple fully patched older
releases
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched
older releases".
has yet to point out JUST ONE (he loves that phrase)
bug that Apple patched in the latest release that wasn't patched in
older releases.
He hasn't because he can't.
And that's because he
doesn't know anything about how Apple actually patches their operating systems.
As with so many of his kind today, every accusation is a confession
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched
older releases".
Heh heh heh...
can't back up his lies
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
can't back up his lies
The fact is Apple only fully supports a single iOS release.
Notice iKooks can't ever formulate an adult response to that fact.
For years, iKooks claimed Apple fully supported older iOS releases.
Since that's dead wrong, the question is why did the iKooks say that?
a. They're ignorant
b. They lied
*Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point -
the iKooks have all been completely IGNORANT for years about Apple*
The iKooks set the narrative for this ng to their child-like imaginary
belief systems - which - when you dig deeper - are devoid of any fact!
If adults didn't provide the truth about Apple on this newsgroup, it
would still be filled with the imaginary belief system of the iKooks.
1. For years, child-like iKooks claimed Apple fully patched older releases
2. The reason is the iKooks are completely ignorant of what Apple does
3. I am who posted to the newsgroup that Apple only fully patches 1 release 4. Which all the iKooks complained was not what they thought the case was
Which is fine... but
5. Then the iKooks started claiming that Apple patched 1 bug in older iOS'
6. Where Jolly Roger & Alan Baker claimed that means they're fully patched
7. Which is not supported by what Apple themselves clearly stated they do
8. In every case, the iKooks are completely ignorant of everything they say
If it wasn't for the adults on this newsgroup, the entire content would
be what the child-like low-IQ uneducated ignorant iKooks erroneously think.
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
The low-IQ ignorant uneducated iKooks have said, for years,
that Apple fully patches the older releases, when even Apple
has never claimed that they do that (because they don't).
*Distinguishing software updates from upgrades*
<https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>
Still, the ignorant iKooks (Alan Browne, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, and nospam) continued to foment their child-like imaginary belief systems devoid of facts.
I had to tell the ignorant uneducated iKooks about this fact
(which even Steve was unaware of until I told him also).
In addition, I had to tell the ignorant child-like low-IQ iKooks that
only in iOS 16 did Apple chip away at the monoslab release structure
with the RSR capability that every other operating system has long used.
*About Rapid Security Responses - only available in iOS 16 and up*
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>
Given that the iKooks have fomented their child-like ignorant imaginary belief systems on this newsgroup for years - the only solution to that problem is to get rid of these three most prolific iKooks from this ng.
Jolly Roger => claims Apple fully patches older releases when they don't nospam => claims imaginary apps for iOS that simply do not exist
Alan Browne => is so ignorant he has never heard of the walled garden
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched
older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard insults instead. =
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched
older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard
insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched >>>>> older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard >>> insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
Why are you so upset about what other people are using? Who are you
trying to convince, us, or yourself?
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully
patched older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings
schoolyard insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched >>>>> older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard >>> insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched >>>>>> older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard >>>> insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just bullshit.
Why are you so upset about what other people are using? Who are you
trying to convince, us, or yourself?
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully
patched
older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings
schoolyard
insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to
nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just
bullshit.
I'm sorry, but that proves that it DOESN'T work.
The troll stopping trolling is success.
The troll choosing to troll under a new nym is failure.
On 2023-09-06 13:02, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully
patched older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings
schoolyard insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen. Why are you feeding
this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need
to nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's
just bullshit.
I'm sorry, but that proves that it DOESN'T work.
The troll stopping trolling is success.
The troll choosing to troll under a new nym is failure.
No - because at some point it's starved of the O2 and finds a new
hobby.
That's nowhere near a universal truth - especially when it comes to
mentally ill individuals
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
That's nowhere near a universal truth - especially when it comes to
mentally ill individuals
The _adult_ point of this thread is that...
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched >>>>>> older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard >>>> insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just bullshit.
On 2023-09-06 13:02, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully
patched
older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings
schoolyard
insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to
nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just
bullshit.
I'm sorry, but that proves that it DOESN'T work.
The troll stopping trolling is success.
The troll choosing to troll under a new nym is failure.
No - because at some point it's starved of the O2 and finds a new hobby.
On 2023-09-06 15:33, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-09-06 13:02, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully >>>>>>>>> patched
older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings
schoolyard
insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to
nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just
bullshit.
I'm sorry, but that proves that it DOESN'T work.
The troll stopping trolling is success.
The troll choosing to troll under a new nym is failure.
No - because at some point it's starved of the O2 and finds a new hobby.
Really?
You really think that?
Have you seen the slightest sign of that happening?
On 2023-09-06, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 13:02, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully >>>>>>>>> patched older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings
schoolyard insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen. Why are you feeding
this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need
to nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's
just bullshit.
I'm sorry, but that proves that it DOESN'T work.
The troll stopping trolling is success.
The troll choosing to troll under a new nym is failure.
No - because at some point it's starved of the O2 and finds a new
hobby.
That's nowhere near a universal truth - especially when it comes to
mentally ill individuals like Arlen.
It used to be standard practice with trolls and quite effective.
So - willing to give it a go until Oct 31?
You too nospam?
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
It used to be standard practice with trolls and quite effective.
So - willing to give it a go until Oct 31?
You too nospam?
It's quite illustrative how fearful the iKooks are of the simple truthful observation that these iKooks were either completely ignorant that Apple
only fully supports a single release (or that the iKooks lied about it).
*For _years_ iKooks were either ignorant of the truth - or they lied*
Alan Browne => is always ignorant as he's never read a thing about Apple
nospam => always deflects the truth about Apple with his 7 main excuses
Jolly Roger => always viciously attacks the bearer of truth about Apple
If those three people left the child-like Apple newsgroups, instantly the level of discussion would start approaching that of adult OS newsgroups.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
It used to be standard practice with trolls and quite effective.
So - willing to give it a go until Oct 31?
You too nospam?
It's quite illustrative how fearful the iKooks are of the simple truthful
observation that these iKooks were either completely ignorant that Apple
only fully supports a single release (or that the iKooks lied about it).
*For _years_ iKooks were either ignorant of the truth - or they lied*
Alan Browne => is always ignorant as he's never read a thing about Apple >> nospam => always deflects the truth about Apple with his 7 main excuses
Jolly Roger => always viciously attacks the bearer of truth about Apple
If those three people left the child-like Apple newsgroups, instantly the
level of discussion would start approaching that of adult OS newsgroups.
Is this what would ultimately satisfy you or is there something else you prefer?
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched >>>>>>> older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard >>>>> insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to
nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just
bullshit.
But that's my point:
BECAUSE he shifts it cannot work.
So I battle with him a different way:
Ridicule.
On Sep 7, 2023 at 4:10:32 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched >>>>>>>> older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard >>>>>> insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to
nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just
bullshit.
But that's my point:
BECAUSE he shifts it cannot work.
So I battle with him a different way:
Ridicule.
Actually you can. When you read a post that includes "iKook", talks about the weak iOS, disses users/supporters of Apple products, has cross posted posts involving iOS on Mac newsgroups, and mentions how they are so superior to other posters, you know it is Arlen. Even if it is sin't, you are better of to
ignore the poster. In my opinion, you are just as weak as they are, when you respond, He preys/thrives on users responding to his hyperbole, name calling, and reguritating the same crap over and over again. I started to read and post
in newsgroups, looking to help others or gaining insight through others posts.
Many of the news groups, outside of Advocacy where it is appropriate, have turned mostly into a battleground for Arlen and those who respond to him.
I rarely read (maybe twice a month) the Mac, iPad, and iPhone related newsgroups anymore and when I do, I kill file any with Arlen content. Which could be a bad thing, as he might occasionally mention something worth while. It might be mixed somewhere in his posts, but I find his name calling and barfing the samething over and over again too much to wade through to find that small mention of something positive, that I might be able to use. Repeating his posts don't assist me either.
So, to answer your thoughtfully posed question, I do not ask for the
three of them to leave this newgroup - simply because it's
unrealistic to do so.
These uneducated ignorant low-IQ iKooks hate me.
So be it.
If those three people left the child-like Apple newsgroups, instantly the
level of discussion would start approaching that of adult OS newsgroups.
Is this what would ultimately satisfy you or is there something else you prefer?
Wally J wrote:
So, to answer your thoughtfully posed question, I do not ask for the
three of them to leave this newgroup - simply because it's
unrealistic to do so.
These uneducated ignorant low-IQ iKooks hate me.
So be it.
Let me phrase the question a different way...
From your perspective, what would it take for there to be a truce
between you and the others?
Let me phrase the question a different way..
From your perspective, what would it take for there to be a truce
between you and the others?
I think what you may mean by a "truce" is for me to be "civil" with
them when they lie and for them to be civil with me when I tell them
the truth.
On 2023-09-06 12:51, Chris wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-06 01:58, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
Am 05.09.23 um 02:02 schrieb Jolly Roger:
On 2023-09-04, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Literally nobody in the Apple newsgroup has said "Apple fully patched >>>>>>> older releases".
Heh heh heh...
Little Arlen can't back up his lies, so he giggles and slings schoolyard >>>>> insults instead. =
You seem to be the bigger Troll than Arlen.
Why are you feeding this Troll and wasting our time?
Have you ever seen "Don't feed the Troll" actually work?
It very obviously does work otherwise Arlen wouldn't feel the need to
nymshift quite so often. He claims it's for "privacy" but that's just
bullshit.
I'm sorry, but that proves that it DOESN'T work.
The troll stopping trolling is success.
The troll choosing to troll under a new nym is failure.
I think what you may mean by a "truce" is for me to be "civil" with
them when they lie and for them to be civil with me when I tell them
the truth.
I agree that civility is in short supply in this group.
The question is who is willing to break the cycle of brazen
character attacks and treat others as they would want to be treated.
Only an adult could do that.
Who wants to be an adult and set an example?
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote
I think what you may mean by a "truce" is for me to be "civil" with
them when they lie and for them to be civil with me when I tell them
the truth.
I agree that civility is in short supply in this group.
Hi badgolferman,
I realize you're asking the adults how to handle the children, where what
you need to do, is ask the children why they lie about Apple iOS support.
Their brazen lies (for years!) is the cause of the problem we speak of.
Not the effect.
The question is who is willing to break the cycle of brazen
character attacks and treat others as they would want to be treated.
You need to understand this "cycle" starts with iKooks brazenly lying that Apple fully supports older releases is the "cause" (it's not the effect).
Only an adult could do that.
As an adult, you're supposed to concentrate on cause before effect.
The cause is the iKooks lie whenever they see the truth posted about Apple. You need to fix the cause.
The cause is the iKooks brazenly lie about Apple support on this ng.
Who wants to be an adult and set an example?
You need to focus on the cause of the problem you wish to fix - not on the resulting effect.
The cause is what you will get when you open a thread asking this question.
*How many iOS releases does Apple say Apple fully supports?*
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