POLL: What do you predict Apple will do now that their iPhone 15
design incompetence is at the fore?
a. Will Apple blame the customers again (you're holding it wrong).
b. Will Apple secretly throttle the CPU in half again?
c. Will Apple say it's "courageously chic" for a phone to overheat?
*Will Apple _ever_ do the decent thing, or not?*
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
POLL: What do you predict Apple will do now that their iPhone 15
design incompetence is at the fore?
a. Will Apple blame the customers again (you're holding it wrong).
b. Will Apple secretly throttle the CPU in half again?
c. Will Apple say it's "courageously chic" for a phone to overheat?
*Will Apple ever do the decent thing, or not?*
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
How would you fix the phone without replacing its titanium skeleton?
That seems like a non-starter to me. Maybe put a tiny fan in there and
blow the heat out the ear hole? Hardly any younger people use the
phone as a phone so they don't need that function.
I'm torn between Option a and b, but chances are the marketing
department is hard at work coming up with an even smarter way to make
people accept the shortcomings of their new phone.
On 29 Sep 2023 at 12:03:12 AM, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
How would you fix the phone without replacing its titanium skeleton?
That seems like a non-starter to me. Maybe put a tiny fan in there and
blow the heat out the ear hole? Hardly any younger people use the
phone as a phone so they don't need that function.
Apple could identify the problem, and for those phones with the problem, Apple could give people a coupon for a replacement iPhone 15 when they're available.
Then Apple could redesign the iPhone 15 so that it doesn't overheat.
People could use their current phones, probably with a software update that reduces performance so as to keep the temperature on the battery lower,
until Apple has a chance to figure out the problem & fix it internally.
I'm torn between Option a and b, but chances are the marketing
department is hard at work coming up with an even smarter way to make
people accept the shortcomings of their new phone.
Apple won't do what I said above of course.
I predict Apple will introduce a software fix which reduces performance.
I predict Apple will say it's to extend the life of the phone for you.
Just like Apple did when they had those issues with power delivery design.
Wally J wrote:
POLL: What do you predict Apple will do now that their iPhone 15
design incompetence is at the fore?
a. Will Apple blame the customers again (you're holding it wrong).
b. Will Apple secretly throttle the CPU in half again?
c. Will Apple say it's "courageously chic" for a phone to overheat?
*Will Apple ever do the decent thing, or not?*
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected
iPhones?
How would you fix the phone without replacing its titanium skeleton?
That seems like a non-starter to me. Maybe put a tiny fan in there
and blow the heat out the ear hole? Hardly any younger people use the
phone as a phone so they don't need that function.
I'm torn between Option a and b, but chances are the marketing
department is hard at work coming up with an even smarter way to make
people accept the shortcomings of their new phone.
On 9/28/23 18:50, Wally J wrote:
POLL: What do you predict Apple will do now that their iPhone 15
design incompetence is at the fore?
a. Will Apple blame the customers again (you're holding it wrong).
b. Will Apple secretly throttle the CPU in half again?
c. Will Apple say it's "courageously chic" for a phone to overheat?
*Will Apple _ever_ do the decent thing, or not?*
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
b
On 29 Sep 2023 at 12:03:12 AM, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
How would you fix the phone without replacing its titanium skeleton?
That seems like a non-starter to me. Maybe put a tiny fan in there and
blow the heat out the ear hole? Hardly any younger people use the
phone as a phone so they don't need that function.
Apple could identify the problem, and for those phones with the problem, Apple could give people a coupon for a replacement iPhone 15 when they're available.
Then Apple could redesign the iPhone 15 so that it doesn't overheat.
People could use their current phones, probably with a software update that reduces performance so as to keep the temperature on the battery lower,
until Apple has a chance to figure out the problem & fix it internally.
I'm torn between Option a and b, but chances are the marketing
department is hard at work coming up with an even smarter way to make
people accept the shortcomings of their new phone.
Apple won't do what I said above of course.
I predict Apple will introduce a software fix which reduces performance.
I predict Apple will say it's to extend the life of the phone for you.
Just like Apple did when they had those issues with power delivery design.
I have amended my answer to what Apple will do.
First they will blame the "small" amount of customers who are having
this overheating problem for their configuration of the phone and the incorrect way it's being used/charged. Next they will provide a
software fix which will throttle the CPU during those excessive heat
cycles, claiming it's for the customer's own protection. In the
meantime they will furiously redesign the iPhone 16 at great cost to
the final product.
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the iPhone
15, and providing the customers with a new phone will not make any
difference if they continue using it the same way. The fix has to be something other than hardware changes.
POLL: What do you predict Apple will do now that their iPhone 15
design incompetence is at the fore?
a. Will Apple blame the customers again (you're holding it wrong).
b. Will Apple secretly throttle the CPU in half again?
c. Will Apple say it's "courageously chic" for a phone to overheat?
*Will Apple _ever_ do the decent thing, or not?*
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
Wally J wrote:
POLL: What do you predict Apple will do now that their iPhone 15
design incompetence is at the fore?
a. Will Apple blame the customers again (you're holding it wrong).
b. Will Apple secretly throttle the CPU in half again?
c. Will Apple say it's "courageously chic" for a phone to overheat?
*Will Apple ever do the decent thing, or not?*
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
How would you fix the phone without replacing its titanium skeleton?
That seems like a non-starter to me. Maybe put a tiny fan in there and
blow the heat out the ear hole? Hardly any younger people use the
phone as a phone so they don't need that function.
I'm torn between Option a and b, but chances are the marketing
department is hard at work coming up with an even smarter way to make
people accept the shortcomings of their new phone.
First they will blame the "small" amount of customers who are having
this overheating problem for their configuration of the phone and the incorrect way it's being used/charged. Next they will provide a
software fix which will throttle the CPU during those excessive heat
cycles, claiming it's for the customer's own protection. In the
meantime they will furiously redesign the iPhone 16 at great cost to
the final product.
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the iPhone 15,
and providing the customers with a new phone will not make any
difference if they continue using it the same way. The fix has to be something other than hardware changes.
POLL: What do you predict Apple will do now that their iPhone 15
design incompetence is at the fore?
a. Will Apple blame the customers again (you're holding it wrong).
b. Will Apple secretly throttle the CPU in half again?
c. Will Apple say it's "courageously chic" for a phone to overheat?
*Will Apple _ever_ do the decent thing, or not?*
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the iPhone
15, and providing the customers with a new phone will not make any
difference if they continue using it the same way. The fix has to be
something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware issue
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the iPhone
15, and providing the customers with a new phone will not make any
difference if they continue using it the same way. The fix has to be
something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated iKooks, which
is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will do to make people whole.
*Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective* ... but what will Apple do about it?
On 9/29/23 13:37, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-29 11:23, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the iPhone
15, and providing the customers with a new phone will not make any
difference if they continue using it the same way. The fix has to be >>>>> something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated iKooks,
which
is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will do to make people
whole.
*Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective* ... but what will Apple do
about it?
It's not clear that the iPhone is defective.
But there's been heat reports.
On 2023-09-29 11:23, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the iPhone
15, and providing the customers with a new phone will not make any
difference if they continue using it the same way. The fix has to be >>>> something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated iKooks,
which
is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will do to make people
whole.
*Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective* ... but what will Apple do
about it?
It's not clear that the iPhone is defective.
On 9/29/23 13:37, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-29 11:23, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the iPhone 15, and providing the customers with a new phone will not make any difference if they continue using it the same way. The fix has to be something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated iKooks, which
is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will do to make people whole.
*Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective* ... but what will Apple do
about it?
It's not clear that the iPhone is defective.
But there's been heat reports.
A defective unit is where undesired effects occur that typically do
not occur in the majority of units. A defective product is where undesired, >> *unintentional* effects occur in a large % of units. If the effect is known >> before release and is acceptable by the manufacturer, that just means the
product has a weakness (a poor product).
Maybe no one will notice...
A defective unit is where undesired effects occur that typically do
not occur in the majority of units. A defective product is where undesired, *unintentional* effects occur in a large % of units. If the effect is known before release and is acceptable by the manufacturer, that just means the product has a weakness (a poor product).
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 23:55:43 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:
A defective unit is where undesired effects occur that typically do
not occur in the majority of units. A defective product is where
undesired, *unintentional* effects occur in a large % of units. If
the effect is known before release and is acceptable by the
manufacturer, that just means the product has a weakness (a poor
product).
Maybe no one will notice...
I have an idea.
Let's hide code in the next update release of the iPhone 15 which
slows down the processor so that the heat problem won't be noticed as
much.
Maybe no one will notice...
On 9/29/23 13:37, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-29 11:23, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the
iPhone 15, and providing the customers with a new phone will not
make any difference if they continue using it the same way. The
fix has to be something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware
issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated iKooks,
which is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will do to make
people whole. *Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective* ... but what
will Apple do about it?
It's not clear that the iPhone is defective.
But there's been heat reports.
On Sep 29, 2023, candycanearter07 wrote
(in article <uf7ikj$fg0s$1@dont-email.me>):
On 9/29/23 13:37, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-29 11:23, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the
iPhone 15, and providing the customers with a new phone will
not make any difference if they continue using it the same
way. The fix has to be something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware
issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated
iKooks, which is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will
do to make people whole. *Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective*
... but what will Apple do about it?
It's not clear that the iPhone is defective.
But there's been heat reports.
There is a difference between a defective unit (a monitor with dead
pixels, a charger that doesn't work) and a defective product (Galaxy
Note 7, BlackBerry Storm). A defective unit is where undesired effects
occur that typically do not occur in the majority of units. A
defective product is where undesired, *unintentional* effects occur in
a large % of units. If the effect is known before release and is
acceptable by the manufacturer, that just means the product has a
weakness (a poor product).
On 2023-09-29, Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote:
On Sep 29, 2023, candycanearter07 wrote
(in article <uf7ikj$fg0s$1@dont-email.me>):
On 9/29/23 13:37, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-29 11:23, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the
iPhone 15, and providing the customers with a new phone will
not make any difference if they continue using it the same
way. The fix has to be something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware
issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated
iKooks, which is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will
do to make people whole. *Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective*
... but what will Apple do about it?
It's not clear that the iPhone is defective.
But there's been heat reports.
There is a difference between a defective unit (a monitor with dead
pixels, a charger that doesn't work) and a defective product (Galaxy
Note 7, BlackBerry Storm). A defective unit is where undesired effects
occur that typically do not occur in the majority of units. A
defective product is where undesired, *unintentional* effects occur in
a large % of units. If the effect is known before release and is
acceptable by the manufacturer, that just means the product has a
weakness (a poor product).
There are *numerous* reports from iPhone 15 users who say they are not experiencing heating issues. What do you say about that?
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2023-09-29, Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote:
On Sep 29, 2023, candycanearter07 wrote
(in article <uf7ikj$fg0s$1@dont-email.me>):
On 9/29/23 13:37, Alan wrote:
On 2023-09-29 11:23, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Obviously they can't make any hardware design changes to the
iPhone 15, and providing the customers with a new phone will
not make any difference if they continue using it the same way. >>>>>>>> The fix has to be something other than hardware changes.
Convenient since you trolls haven't shown this to be a hardware
issue
First off, the _topic_ is incomprehensible to the uneducated
iKooks, which is that it's valuable to _predict_ what Apple will
do to make people whole. *Clearly the iPhone 15 is defective*
... but what will Apple do about it?
It's not clear that the iPhone is defective.
But there's been heat reports.
There is a difference between a defective unit (a monitor with dead
pixels, a charger that doesn't work) and a defective product (Galaxy
Note 7, BlackBerry Storm). A defective unit is where undesired
effects occur that typically do not occur in the majority of units.
A defective product is where undesired, *unintentional* effects
occur in a large % of units. If the effect is known before release
and is acceptable by the manufacturer, that just means the product
has a weakness (a poor product).
There are *numerous* reports from iPhone 15 users who say they are
not experiencing heating issues. What do you say about that?
They must be holding it the right way…
They must be holding it the right way…
On 9/29/2023 5:47 PM, badgolferman wrote:
<snip>
They must be holding it the right way…
It is true that not everyone is experiencing the heating issue, or are experiencing it but are not aware of it.
There are multiple reasons for this. Some users put their phones in a
case as soon as they receive it. The likely reason that some people
are experiencing it and some people are not is because the chips
inside the phone are not all exactly the same.
There is a difference between a defective unit (a monitor with dead pixels, a charger that doesn't work) and a defective product (Galaxy Note 7, BlackBerry Storm). A defective unit is where undesired effects occur that typically do not occur in the majority of units. A defective product is where undesired, *unintentional* effects occur in a large % of units. If the effect is known before release and is acceptable by the manufacturer, that just means the product has a weakness (a poor product).
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
d. Will Apple come clean (for once) & recall/fix the affected iPhones?
I have clearly claimed that Apple themselves told us what the problem is.
You're a loser.
Apple never wrote "long-term performance reduction".
Those are *your*
words, and you are the true weasel here.
B. There should not be a *top performance reduction*
Apple never wrote "top performance reduction".
Those are *your* words,
and you are the true weasel here.
C. There won't be an *A17 Pro chip performance reduction* etc.
Apple never wrote "A17 Pro chip performance reduction". Those are *your* words, and you are the true weasel here.
Your trolling is weak, old fart.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Apple never wrote "long-term performance reduction".
Ah, but they did.
Apple never wrote "top performance reduction".
Again, I cited where Apple said that.
Apple never wrote "A17 Pro chip performance reduction". Those are
*your* words, and you are the true weasel here.
Yet again, those are verbatim cut-and-paste from the Apple statement.
What's no longer shocking is how deathly afraid low-IQ uneducated ignorant religious-zealot iKooks are of the simple truths about Apple products.
a. Apple fucked up with the design of the defective iPhone 15 product line;
b. Worse, Apple forgot to test that defective iPhone 15 product line;
c. When Apple was forced to test the defective iPhone 15 product line,
Apple found multiple and rather embarrassingly diverse causative bugs.
Even worse... while Apple was forced to admit the defective iPhones are overheating, Apple has blamed everyone but Apple for the defective iPhones.
That's the truth, right?
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