• Backups in iTunes

    From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 10:20:53 2023
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer.
    I recently found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/
    It is almost 10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back
    to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups saved.
    I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    Ed

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sun Oct 15 17:27:01 2023
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer. I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost
    10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups saved.
    I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders has
    a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number) for the device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different models of iPhone
    or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it to
    the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes, and
    clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the UDID.
    You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think you
    may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should first
    make a backup of it for safe keeping.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Oct 15 19:32:09 2023
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer. I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost
    10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups saved.
    I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders has
    a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number) for the device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different models of iPhone
    or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it to
    the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes, and
    clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the UDID.
    You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think you
    may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should first
    make a backup of it for safe keeping.


    Thanks Roger.

    Ed

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Oct 15 14:54:28 2023
    On 10/15/23 12:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think you
    may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should first
    make a backup of it for safe keeping.


    ~~Funny that you're making a backup of a backup~~
    Probably should .zip it
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sun Oct 15 21:13:26 2023
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer. I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost
    10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups saved.
    I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders has
    a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number) for the
    device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different models of iPhone
    or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it to
    the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes, and
    clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the UDID.
    You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think you
    may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should first
    make a backup of it for safe keeping.

    Thanks Roger.

    Welcome!

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Sun Oct 15 21:34:47 2023
    On 2023-10-15, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 10/15/23 12:27, Jolly Roger wrote:

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think
    you may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should
    first make a backup of it for safe keeping.

    ~~Funny that you're making a backup of a backup~~

    Probably more accurate to call it an archive. And in macOS, you can
    click the "Manage Backups" button in the same display (in the Finder) to
    view a list of backups, where you can right-click one in the list to
    "Archive" it so that fuure backups of that device won't overwrite it.

    Probably should .zip it

    Just don't expect much compression. I just tested it with one of my
    backups:

    Uncompressed: 39.83 GB
    Compressed: 37.93 GB

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Oct 15 16:44:41 2023
    On 10/15/23 16:34, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Just don't expect much compression. I just tested it with one of my
    backups:

    Uncompressed: 39.83 GB
    Compressed: 37.93 GB

    Ouch, zip compression varies so much sometimes.
    Maybe you could try .gz compression?
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  • From Zaidy036@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Oct 15 21:09:23 2023
    On 10/15/2023 1:27 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer. I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost
    10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups saved.
    I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders has
    a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number) for the device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different models of iPhone
    or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it to
    the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes, and
    clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the UDID.
    You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think you
    may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should first
    make a backup of it for safe keeping.

    My iPhone and iPad backups using iTunes on Win 10 Pro are in %USERPROFILE%\Apple\MobileSync\Backup

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Mon Oct 16 00:33:24 2023
    On 2023-10-15, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 10/15/23 16:34, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Just don't expect much compression. I just tested it with one of my
    backups:

    Uncompressed: 39.83 GB
    Compressed: 37.93 GB

    Ouch, zip compression varies so much sometimes.
    Maybe you could try .gz compression?

    Not worth it. Most of the backup data is already compressed.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Zaidy036@air.isp.spam on Mon Oct 16 02:57:58 2023
    On 2023-10-16, Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> wrote:
    On 10/15/2023 1:27 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer. I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost
    10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups
    saved. I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders
    has a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number)
    for the device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different
    models of iPhone or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders
    there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it
    to the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes,
    and clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the
    UDID. You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think
    you may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should
    first make a backup of it for safe keeping.

    My iPhone and iPad backups using iTunes on Win 10 Pro are in %USERPROFILE%\Apple\MobileSync\Backup

    Interesting. Older version of iTunes, perhaps? Or is there some user
    policy in effect that directs things there instead?

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  • From Zaidy036@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Oct 16 10:49:42 2023
    On 10/15/2023 10:57 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-16, Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> wrote:
    On 10/15/2023 1:27 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer. I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost
    10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups
    saved. I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders
    has a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number)
    for the device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different
    models of iPhone or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders
    there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it
    to the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes,
    and clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the
    UDID. You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think
    you may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should
    first make a backup of it for safe keeping.

    My iPhone and iPad backups using iTunes on Win 10 Pro are in
    %USERPROFILE%\Apple\MobileSync\Backup

    Interesting. Older version of iTunes, perhaps? Or is there some user
    policy in effect that directs things there instead?

    used as supplied by Apple without changes currently 12.12.10.1

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Zaidy036@air.isp.spam on Mon Oct 16 16:10:09 2023
    On 2023-10-16, Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> wrote:
    On 10/15/2023 10:57 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-16, Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> wrote:
    On 10/15/2023 1:27 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer. I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost >>>>> 10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013. >>>>>
    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups
    saved. I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders
    has a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number)
    for the device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different
    models of iPhone or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders
    there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it
    to the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes,
    and clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the
    UDID. You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think
    you may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should
    first make a backup of it for safe keeping.

    My iPhone and iPad backups using iTunes on Win 10 Pro are in
    %USERPROFILE%\Apple\MobileSync\Backup

    Interesting. Older version of iTunes, perhaps? Or is there some user
    policy in effect that directs things there instead?

    used as supplied by Apple without changes currently 12.12.10.1

    I really don't care enough about Windows to research why some things get
    stored in %USERPROFILE% rather than %APPDATA%. Suffice it to say you can
    find your backups (and other interesting things) in either one,
    depending on how your particular system behaves. 🙂

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 19:12:50 2023
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Oct 16 11:15:52 2023
    On 10/16/23 11:10, Jolly Roger wrote:
    I really don't care enough about Windows to research why some things get stored in %USERPROFILE% rather than %APPDATA%. Suffice it to say you can
    find your backups (and other interesting things) in either one,
    depending on how your particular system behaves. 🙂

    Cause some publishers don't know/care about what's "supposed" to go in
    certain system folders. I mean, quite a few resort to creating a folder
    in your home directory instead.
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Mon Oct 16 19:39:02 2023
    On 2023-10-16, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Zaidy036 wrote:
    On 10/15/2023 1:27 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-15, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I use iTunes to backup my iPad to my Windows computer.  I recently
    found this; {user name} Appdata/Roaming/Apple Computer/ It is almost
    10GB in size, a hidden folder, and holds backups right back to 2013.

    I can't find a setting in iTunes to limit the number of backups saved. >>>> I assume, however, that I can delete a few of them.

    All of the backups are stored at:

    AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\

    Inside that folder are the individual backups. Each of those folders has >>> a name that is the UDID (Universal Device IDentification number) for the >>> device. If you've backed up multiple devices (different models of iPhone >>> or iPads), there will be multiple backup folders there.

    You can figure out the UDID of your current device by connecting it to
    the computer, viewing the summary page for the device in iTunes, and
    clicking the "Serial Number" displayed there which reveals the UDID.
    You'll find a matching backup folder with that name.

    You can safely delete any backup folders you want. But if you think you
    may ever want to restore from one that you've delete, you should first
    make a backup of it for safe keeping.

    My iPhone and iPad backups using iTunes on Win 10 Pro are in
    %USERPROFILE%\Apple\MobileSync\Backup

    Under %USERPROFILE%\Music (Win10 Home, same computer as my AppData
    files) I have a folder "iTunes", 10GB in size.
    It contains things like "iTunes Media", "Previous iTunes Libraries",
    "iTunes Library Extras", "iTunes Library Genius". Dates run from 2016 to
    2023 (yesterday).

    But no MobileSync\Backup, which I'm betting is in %APPDATA% instead on
    your system.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Mon Oct 16 19:37:04 2023
    On 2023-10-16, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 10/16/23 11:10, Jolly Roger wrote:
    I really don't care enough about Windows to research why some things get
    stored in %USERPROFILE% rather than %APPDATA%. Suffice it to say you can
    find your backups (and other interesting things) in either one,
    depending on how your particular system behaves. 🙂

    Cause some publishers don't know/care about what's "supposed" to go in certain system folders. I mean, quite a few resort to creating a folder
    in your home directory instead.

    That might be an explanation, except that iTunes does indeed store
    backups in both locations on different systems. And that's why I
    postulated there was some system or user profile at play causing the
    difference in storage locations.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Oct 16 16:17:26 2023
    On 10/16/23 14:39, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-10-16, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Under %USERPROFILE%\Music (Win10 Home, same computer as my AppData
    files) I have a folder "iTunes", 10GB in size.
    It contains things like "iTunes Media", "Previous iTunes Libraries",
    "iTunes Library Extras", "iTunes Library Genius". Dates run from 2016 to
    2023 (yesterday).

    But no MobileSync\Backup, which I'm betting is in %APPDATA% instead on
    your system.


    You could make a symlink in %USERPROFILE% to it so they're all "in the
    same folder".
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