T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Hi All,
My wife is considering replacing her outgoing Android
tablet with an iPad for the better quality hardware.
She is really angry at Google's interference/spying
on her Android tablet. Samsung uses open source
Android, but builds their own spying into the firmware.
So not an improvement.
Is iPad any worse? Is Apple also collecting information
on you and interfering with you as well?
Many thanks,
-T
If the marketing propaganda is to be believed, Apple is respectful
of User Privacy. I choose to believe that because of Apple's past
behaviour, not for any better reason.
Hi All,
My wife is considering replacing her outgoing Android
tablet with an iPad for the better quality hardware.
She is really angry at Google's interference/spying
on her Android tablet. Samsung uses open source
Android, but builds their own spying into the firmware.
So not an improvement.
Is iPad any worse? Is Apple also collecting information
on you and interfering with you as well?
Many thanks,
-T
On 10/22/23 05:01, Sn!pe wrote:
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Hi All,
My wife is considering replacing her outgoing Android
tablet with an iPad for the better quality hardware.
She is really angry at Google's interference/spying
on her Android tablet. Samsung uses open source
Android, but builds their own spying into the firmware.
So not an improvement.
Is iPad any worse? Is Apple also collecting information
on you and interfering with you as well?
Many thanks,
-T
If the marketing propaganda is to be believed, Apple is respectful
of User Privacy. I choose to believe that because of Apple's past behaviour, not for any better reason.
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all
iPhones to law enforcement (two microseconds later the
bad guy would have had it as well). So one attaboy for
Apple. But they still have the ability to break into
your phone if they want too, So one awsh** for Apple.
How is iPad for forced updates?
How is iPad for forced updates?
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones to
law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have had it
as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have the ability
to break into your phone if they want too, So one awsh** for Apple.
How is iPad for forced updates?
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones to
law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have had it
as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have the ability
to break into your phone if they want too, So one awsh** for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
How is iPad for forced updates?
Apple doesn't force updates. But you'd have to be pretty foolish to
allow publicly-known vulnerabilities to remain unpatched on your
devices. There aren't many rational reasons to avoid updating Apple's
mobile devices.
I do believe most of folks hesitation
comes from their experience with Microsoft products.
Microsoft updates are of tragic poor quality.
Even if Windows wasn't an awful kludge from day one, the problem
Microsoft has is that Windows devices are made by various other
manufacturers using numerous different parts that Microsoft have to
attempt to cater for, whereas Apple is in complete control of what is in their devices. That alone helps make MacOS far more robust than Windows
can ever be.
On 10/22/23 10:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones to
law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have had it
as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have the ability
to break into your phone if they want too, So one awsh** for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
FBI certainly thought Apple could do it: https://search.brave.com/search?q=apple+fbi+unlocking+iphones
Proud of Apple for sticking to their principles. (Now
if Apple will stop manufacturing in a country involved
in a mass genocide.)
How is iPad for forced updates?
Apple doesn't force updates. But you'd have to be pretty foolish to
allow publicly-known vulnerabilities to remain unpatched on your
devices. There aren't many rational reasons to avoid updating Apple's
mobile devices.
Very true.
I do believe most of folks hesitation
comes from their experience with Microsoft products.
Microsoft updates are of tragic poor quality.
Some of my costumers have said that ransomeware has caused
less damage than Microsoft updates to their system(s).
And since the device belongs to the owner, the
owner has the right to have complete control over
it, even if it is something stupid. Rental,
depends on the contract.
The last forced Android that Google foist on my
wife's Android took me about two days to fix
everything. Saying she was angry was an understatement.
Apple's "Now", "Later", or "Not-At-All" method is
fine with both my wife and I. Later gives the
option of researching if there are any unintended
side effects.
Apple has had a few bloopers come through, but they are
years and years apart, unlike Microsoft's months apart.
As a computer consultant to small business, I do a lot
of work with Microsoft products. My customers are
so scared of Microsoft updates that they do not install
good updates from other vendors, which does eventually
cause a lot of problems. Open Shell and Ice Drive suffer
a lot over this. I tell my customer, if in doubt,
call me. (Established customers get quick
questions answered for free over the phone.) Some do
and most do not.
Unfortunately, Microsoft has won the applications war.
OSx and Linux are far better OS'es. But if your business
software won't run or won't run properly on them ...
I would not have a job if not for Microsoft's poor quality.
On 10/22/23 10:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones to
law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have had
it as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have the
ability to break into your phone if they want too, So one awsh**
for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
FBI certainly thought Apple could do it:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/22/23 10:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones to
law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have had
it as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have the
ability to break into your phone if they want too, So one awsh**
for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
FBI certainly thought Apple could do it:
Actually, the FBI wanted Apple to change things so that they would have
the ability to break into iPhones. Not only did Apple refuse, but Apple
has steadily added even more protections to ensure they cannot access
the data stored on iPhones..
On 10/22/23 20:54, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/22/23 10:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones
to law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have
had it as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have
the ability to break into your phone if they want too, So one
awsh** for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
FBI certainly thought Apple could do it:
Actually, the FBI wanted Apple to change things so that they would
have the ability to break into iPhones. Not only did Apple refuse,
but Apple has steadily added even more protections to ensure they
cannot access the data stored on iPhones..
Hmmmm. I wonder why so many thought Apple could do that. Our news
media is not very reliable now-a-days
On 2023-10-23, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/22/23 20:54, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/22/23 10:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones
to law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have
had it as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have
the ability to break into your phone if they want too, So one
awsh** for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
FBI certainly thought Apple could do it:
Actually, the FBI wanted Apple to change things so that they would
have the ability to break into iPhones. Not only did Apple refuse,
but Apple has steadily added even more protections to ensure they
cannot access the data stored on iPhones..
Hmmmm. I wonder why so many thought Apple could do that. Our news
media is not very reliable now-a-days
Neither are your critical thinking facilities, but that's the world we
live in.
But they still have the ability
to break into your phone if they want too, So one awsh** for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
On 10/22/23 20:54, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/22/23 10:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-10-22, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Apple did refuse to give away the code to break into all iPhones to
law enforcement (two microseconds later the bad guy would have had
it as well). So one attaboy for Apple. But they still have the
ability to break into your phone if they want too, So one awsh**
for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
FBI certainly thought Apple could do it:
Actually, the FBI wanted Apple to change things so that they would have
the ability to break into iPhones. Not only did Apple refuse, but Apple
has steadily added even more protections to ensure they cannot access
the data stored on iPhones..
Hmmmm. I wonder why so many thought Apple could do that.
Our news media is not very reliable now-a-days
On 10/22/23 10:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
But they still have the ability to break into your phone if they
want too, So one awsh** for Apple.
There is no evidence of this claim.
Apple's official response:
https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/answers/
Has Apple unlocked iPhones for law enforcement in the past?
No.
We regularly receive law enforcement requests for information about
our customers and their Apple devices. In fact, we have a dedicated
team that responds to these requests 24/7. We also provide guidelines
on our website for law enforcement agencies so they know exactly what
we are able to access and what legal authority we need to see before
we can help them.
For devices running the iPhone operating systems prior to iOS 8 and
under a lawful court order, we have extracted data from an iPhone.
We’ve built progressively stronger protections into our products with
each new software release, including passcode-based data encryption,
because cyberattacks have only become more frequent and more
sophisticated. As a result of these stronger protections that require
data encryption, we are no longer able to use the data xtraction
process on an iPhone running iOS 8 or later.
Hi All,
My wife is considering replacing her outgoing Android
tablet with an iPad for the better quality hardware.
She is really angry at Google's interference/spying
on her Android tablet. Samsung uses open source
Android, but builds their own spying into the firmware.
So not an improvement.
Is iPad any worse? Is Apple also collecting information
on you and interfering with you as well?
Many thanks,
-T
On 10/22/23 04:05, T wrote:
Hi All,
My wife is considering replacing her outgoing Android
tablet with an iPad for the better quality hardware.
She is really angry at Google's interference/spying
on her Android tablet. Samsung uses open source
Android, but builds their own spying into the firmware.
So not an improvement.
Is iPad any worse? Is Apple also collecting information
on you and interfering with you as well?
Many thanks,
-T
Well now. My wife decided against the iPad when she
found our she could not run TOR and such on it.
Thank you all for the gracious tip and help!
-T
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/22/23 04:05, T wrote:
Hi All,
My wife is considering replacing her outgoing Android
tablet with an iPad for the better quality hardware.
She is really angry at Google's interference/spying
on her Android tablet. Samsung uses open source
Android, but builds their own spying into the firmware.
So not an improvement.
Is iPad any worse? Is Apple also collecting information
on you and interfering with you as well?
Many thanks,
-T
Well now. My wife decided against the iPad when she
found our she could not run TOR and such on it.
Thank you all for the gracious tip and help!
-T
There is Onion Browser, which admittedly does not give quite the same
level of protection but might be good enough. It's recommended by the
Tor project people:
<https://onionbrowser.com>
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 546 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 150:37:26 |
| Calls: | 10,383 |
| Files: | 14,054 |
| Messages: | 6,417,788 |