• Re: Yet again Apple lied about caring about consumer safety with the lo

    From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Nov 18 20:32:43 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    in a feeble attempt to paint
    Apple as supposedly "not caring about customer safety".

    You're desperate to fabricate excuses for why iPhones are crippled.

    Q: Why is my iPhone crippled, asks Jolly Roger?
    A: *Nobody wants it* *Nobody needs it*
    Even though most current Android models have it.

    Face it, Jolly Roger: Apple lied to you.
    Just like George Santos & Donald Trump lie to you.

    If Apple actually cared about consumer safety, the FM radio would be there.
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sun Nov 19 02:22:24 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-11-19, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    in a feeble attempt to paint Apple as supposedly "not caring about
    customer safety".

    You're desperate

    Nah, that would be you, spending every hour of every day trolling
    newsgroups for products from a company you have a raging little hate
    boner for instead of leading a productive life like a normal person.

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    JR

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Nov 18 23:40:18 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Nah, that would be you, spending every hour of every day trolling
    newsgroups for products from a company you have a raging little hate
    boner for instead of leading a productive life like a normal person.

    I study strange people like you, Jolly Roger.
    Which is why I love you.

    What I find interesting is how _afraid_ you are of me, Jolly Roger.
    Because everything you think and believe - I easily prove to be wrong.

    You actually believe, for example, that an iPhone without any of the basic hardware that most Android phones have, can do what Android can do.

    It can't.

    What you hate, Jolly Roger, is that your iPhone is functionally crippled.

    FACT:
    AUX Jacks are on 75% of current Android models; *0% on current iPhones*
    FM Radio is on 50% of current Android models; *0% on current iPhones*
    Portable memory is on 71% of current Android models; *0% on any iPhones*

    You _hate_ that your toy iPhone can't do what Android phones easily do, JR.
    But what's interesting is how desperate you are to make excuses for that.
    --
    Never forget Apple is a MARKETING company - just like Coca Cola is.
    There's no product value unless they can make people believe there is.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sun Nov 19 03:55:44 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-11-19, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Nah, that would be you, spending every hour of every day trolling
    newsgroups for products from a company you have a raging little hate
    boner for instead of leading a productive life like a normal person.

    I study strange people like you, Jolly Roger. Which is why I love
    you.

    What I find interesting is how _afraid_ you are of me, Jolly Roger.

    More projection. You are so fearful of Apple that you literally spend
    *hours* every day trolling the Apple newsgroups insulting complete
    strangers from behind your keyboard. You wouldn't have the balls to
    sling your little schoolyard insults in person, because you know you'd
    get your ass kicked. You're a cowardly, tiny man child. And you are
    scared of the world.

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    JR

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Nov 18 22:40:35 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    You're a cowardly, tiny man child. And you are
    scared of the world.

    The sad fact is, Jolly Roger, the iPhone lacks basic functionality.

    That's trivially easy to prove, Jolly Roger...
    AUX Jacks are on 75% of current Android models; *0% on current iPhones*
    Portable memory is on 71% of current Android models; *0% on any iPhones*
    FM Radio is on 50% of current Android models; *0% on current iPhones*

    The fact is, every phone that lacks these features is less functional.

    You can't refute that the iPhone is crippled because it lacks normal basic hardware, Jolly Roger... so you try to attack me... trying to insult me.

    Why?

    Because you can't refute that the iPhone is crippled because it lacks fundamental hardware that most Android phones have always had & still do.

    *You _hate_ that your toy iPhone is crippled, Jolly Roger*
    So you attack me.

    You hate that I easily prove all iPhones are crippled in functionality.
    So you take it out on me because you hate Apple's incompetent designs.

    So be it.
    --
    Apple is incompetent at designing a functional phone, but Apple is
    brilliant at markteting a toy that can't do half of what Android does.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to AJL on Sat Nov 18 23:49:55 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote

    On 11/18/2023 3:53 PM, Wally J wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote

    I like your FM radio. I was just saying in emergencies, HAM is nice
    too.

    Agreed. Having both would be better in an emergency. They both have
    their uses. My receiver would be better at receiving the commercial
    bands (AM, FM, SW) where most local and national emergency news
    broadcasts would be found. And your 2 meter handheld ham transceiver
    (with a mountaintop repeater) would serve communications in your local
    area with other hams.

    Living in the Santa Cruz mountains, we are pretty much used to the
    electrical power going out monthly & fires burning down entire
    mountainsides every few years, landslides blocking the roads during the
    rainy season, and of course, a few earthquakes a year so we know the
    inherent safety value of not only the ubiquitous FM radio in cellphones,
    but also the ability for local area communications via the ham radio & mountaintop repeaters (where we have fantastic LOS views to them).

    That's my point about the FM radio in the cellphone, which is that it's
    always better to have a flashlight than not to have the flashlight.

    The Apple people, for example, not only pay twice as much to NOT have the flashlight, but they have to pay Apple to get back the missing flashlight.

    And they are told by Apple that paying for missing stuff that Apple took
    away from them is the modern way to do things in the Apple ecosystem. :)

    the power goes out two and three times a month in the dry months
    (which, in California, is most of the year) but only about once a
    month on the winter wet season

    Things are better here. It's been well over a year since the last power failure. Usually it's a car or storm taking down a power pole and they
    can usually reroute within a couple of hours or so.

    You're lucky. We pay some of the highest electricity rates in the nation,
    and we get nearly the most outages per year in the nation.

    The only good thing about that is the CPUC forces PG&E to give us free
    stuff related to the many power outages a year. For example, I got a
    dual-fuel DuroMax XP5500EH generator from PG&E even though I already have a built-in Generac that runs on propane.
    <https://www.pge.com/en/outages-and-safety/outage-preparedness-and-support/general-outage-resources/generator-and-battery-rebate-program.html>

    (which started today, by the way, as it's raining).

    Yep. Your storm came this way and got my driveway (slightly) wet...

    Yeah, we don't normally get rain from about March or April to about now. Sometimes we get rivers of rain. Sometimes not. It's fickle. Weather.

    Of course every one of us (thousands upon thousands of homes in the
    mountains) has a 240VAC generator or two, plus battery backups, etc.

    That would be wise considering the conditions you describe...

    I don't know a single person that doesn't have at least one generator. Unfortunately, some people use a suicide cord, which is just dangerous.

    The funny thing is because we're in the highest fire danger area of the country, PG&E will give us a lot of free stuff for the power outages.

    If you follow the rules, you get a lot of free stuff like...
    a. A free portable power generator
    b. A free backup power transfer meter to connect it to
    c. A free portable emergency 2KW battery with 120VAC output
    d. A free 4-liter 120VAC/12VDC refrigerator

    You have to follow the rules though. For example, PG&E insists our portable generators have a NEMA L1430R Locking Outlet which they use to connect to
    their proprietary backup transfer meters, which are really neat devices.

    I don't know if anywhere else in the country has these new devices but us.
    <https://energycentral.com/news/first-its-kind-technology-allows-pge-customers-safely-and-easily-connect-backup-power-their>

    We even have special meters from PG&E that we can hook our generators
    up _directly_ to the meter when the power goes out. Fancy that from
    PG&E!

    Neat. Here some folks have solar panels with storage batteries so they
    can get a few extra hours from the batteries in a power failure.

    BTW, PG&E applied for a patent and says they designed these switches.
    <https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220217005846/en/First-of-its-Kind-Technology-Allows-PGE-Customers-to-Safely-and-Easily-Connect-Backup-Power-to-Their-Homes>

    It's a really neat device they give us to connect to the generator.
    <https://solarbuildermag.com/policy/pge-built-a-transfer-device-for-homes-in-high-fire-threat-districts-to-connect-backup-power-sources/>

    But you can only get it from PG&E for free if you're in the worst fire
    danger area and if they cut off your power due to frequent EPSS trips.
    <https://www.power-grid.com/smart-grid/pge-develops-backup-generator-meter-for-fire-threat-prone-customers/>

    _everyone_ in the neighborhood has them [BAOFENG UV-5R]. That's many
    hundreds of people who all have the same HAM radio as I do. What
    happened is one HAM enthusiast aficionado long ago sent out a
    suggestion we all chip in twenty-five bucks each and that would cover
    the radio and the testing

    Back in the day (got my first ticket in 1956) you had to pass a written
    AND a Morse Code test. Guess not anymore...

    No Morse Code anymore. But you do have to pass the written test.
    The way I passed the test was I put on my iPad a zillion free HAM radio
    tests, which contained the EXACT QUESTIONS to the exams (so it was easy).

    You can see my Ham Radio folder on my iPad in this old graphic in fact.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!

    Another back in the day story: Some of our original mountaintop
    repeaters had autopatches. There was a landline connection at the
    repeater site. You could actually call someone using your 2 meter
    handheld. This was pre-cellphone days so very handy. Course it wasn't
    very private since all of Phoenix hamdom could listen in...

    I know what you mean, but I don't know if the repeater we mostly use has
    that, but we have gotten people from extremely far away on the radio.

    I don't play with it all that much. Mostly I bring it on my backcountry
    hikes, where it's my emergency backup in case I break a leg or get bitten
    by a rattler or whatever.

    An FM radio isn't needed on hikes as much as a HAM radio would be; but if
    there was an emergency, I pity all those Apple iPhone owners without FM
    radios since they have to buy an FM radio just to get back what was
    previously already there for free in the first place (which Apple removed
    to protect their streaming revenue). They have to keep it plugged in or
    with batteries. And they have to find it in an emergency when their phone
    is already in their hands. Apple hoodwinked them. And they ate it all up.

    - which was why those two radios plus two tests cost me only fifty
    bucks (one for my wife and the other for me).

    Things are apparently a lot cheaper now, though I did used to get some
    pretty good deals at hamfests.

    I didn't do any of the buying but the guy who bought a thousand of them (or whatever the number was) got some kind of bulk deal so I'm happy with this.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/1zvGYNZt/hamradio.jpg> $25 bucks, including the test

    We have sequential federal Id's (ain't that sweet) where I don't
    remember them so since they have to be used, I write them on the back
    of the radio.

    Do you mean licenses with call letters? IIRC California was in the 6th
    call district. AZ is in the 7th and my call starts with W7...

    Oh my. I am glad I told you I was ignorant as I really forgot everything.
    All I know is I need to mention my call sign every five minutes or so.
    I don't remember it. So I taped it to the back of the radio.

    Lemme look for you... OK... my call sign is of the KMxxxx type, but some of
    my neighbors are ABxxx (notice only 5 characters for them but 6 for mine).

    As I said, I stuff the HAM radio into my pack when I do backcountry hiking, just in case, but I really never need to use it but, of course, if I don't
    put it in my pack, that's when I'll need to use it (Murphy's Law).

    Are those BAOFENG UV-5R radios any good?

    Specs look Ok. If they're reliable as is your repeater then they should
    work just fine.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baofeng_UV-5R>

    Thanks for checking on that as I wasn't sure how to respond to your first suggestion that the radio would not be powerful enough. It works for me.

    I talked the 3,500 gallon propane truck into giving me more than 85% as I normally run the built-in generator which runs off of propane.

    But I have a Nash Fuel hose so that I can fill up the twenty pound propane tanks from my 1,000 gallon residential propane tank and then I have the
    Flame King adaptor to fill my one-pound propane tanks from the twenty
    pounder (which is all very convenient). I refuel my cars at home too. :)
    <https://www.costco.com/flame-king-refillable-1lb.-empty-propane-cylinder-tank-16.4-oz%2C-2-pack---with-refill-kit.product.100679019.html>

    You learn to be self sufficient in the mountains, where, for example I even refill my five pound carbon dioxide tank myself, with dry ice, and then I
    use a high-pressure stainless steel hose to refill sodastream canisters.

    As another example, all of us have either a T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon
    femtocell (connected to the router) or a two-piece cellular repeater (I
    have both) so that our signal strength is perfect inside the house even
    though we're miles from the nearest cell towers.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/XJChDCPr/spare-access-points.jpg> cellular repeater

    We are so far in the boonies, that we don't have the option of cable, so we
    get all our Internet over the air from a nearby mountaintop too. Which
    makes us pretty self sufficient in an emergency...
    <https://i.postimg.cc/Gh22Sb2N/desktop.jpg> Desktop in shed with MikroTik

    Which, to come full circle, is why we know to feel sorry for the hapless
    iPhone users because having an FM radio on the phone is always better than
    not having it (despite Apple convincing them otherwise, somehow).

    If you want photos of anything I've said above, just ask. I was gonna snap
    some and upload them as I am a stickler for facts - but it's night and
    they'll suck without good light but in the morning let me know if there's
    any emergency safety item you're interesting in more information on,
    as I have everything that I said above - most for emergency purposes.

    Including the FM radio, aux jack & sd card in my free Galaxy A32-5G phone.
    --
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    with others who are capable of comprehending the topics that we discuss.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sun Nov 19 08:37:55 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 11/18/23 23:49, Wally J wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote

    On 11/18/2023 3:53 PM, Wally J wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote

    I like your FM radio. I was just saying in emergencies, HAM is nice
    too.

    Agreed. Having both would be better in an emergency. They both have
    their uses. My receiver would be better at receiving the commercial
    bands (AM, FM, SW) where most local and national emergency news
    broadcasts would be found. And your 2 meter handheld ham transceiver
    (with a mountaintop repeater) would serve communications in your local
    area with other hams.

    Living in the Santa Cruz mountains, we are pretty much used to the
    electrical power going out monthly & fires burning down entire
    mountainsides every few years, landslides blocking the roads during the
    rainy season, and of course, a few earthquakes a year so we know the
    inherent safety value of not only the ubiquitous FM radio in cellphones,
    but also the ability for local area communications via the ham radio & mountaintop repeaters (where we have fantastic LOS views to them).

    That's my point about the FM radio in the cellphone, which is that it's always better to have a flashlight than not to have the flashlight.

    The Apple people, for example, not only pay twice as much to NOT have the flashlight, but they have to pay Apple to get back the missing flashlight.

    And they are told by Apple that paying for missing stuff that Apple took
    away from them is the modern way to do things in the Apple ecosystem. :)

    the power goes out two and three times a month in the dry months
    (which, in California, is most of the year) but only about once a
    month on the winter wet season

    Things are better here. It's been well over a year since the last power
    failure. Usually it's a car or storm taking down a power pole and they
    can usually reroute within a couple of hours or so.

    You're lucky. We pay some of the highest electricity rates in the nation,
    and we get nearly the most outages per year in the nation.

    The only good thing about that is the CPUC forces PG&E to give us free
    stuff related to the many power outages a year. For example, I got a dual-fuel DuroMax XP5500EH generator from PG&E even though I already have a built-in Generac that runs on propane.
    <https://www.pge.com/en/outages-and-safety/outage-preparedness-and-support/general-outage-resources/generator-and-battery-rebate-program.html>

    (which started today, by the way, as it's raining).

    Yep. Your storm came this way and got my driveway (slightly) wet...

    Yeah, we don't normally get rain from about March or April to about now. Sometimes we get rivers of rain. Sometimes not. It's fickle. Weather.

    Of course every one of us (thousands upon thousands of homes in the
    mountains) has a 240VAC generator or two, plus battery backups, etc.

    That would be wise considering the conditions you describe...

    I don't know a single person that doesn't have at least one generator. Unfortunately, some people use a suicide cord, which is just dangerous.

    The funny thing is because we're in the highest fire danger area of the country, PG&E will give us a lot of free stuff for the power outages.

    If you follow the rules, you get a lot of free stuff like...
    a. A free portable power generator
    b. A free backup power transfer meter to connect it to
    c. A free portable emergency 2KW battery with 120VAC output
    d. A free 4-liter 120VAC/12VDC refrigerator

    You have to follow the rules though. For example, PG&E insists our portable generators have a NEMA L1430R Locking Outlet which they use to connect to their proprietary backup transfer meters, which are really neat devices.

    I don't know if anywhere else in the country has these new devices but us.
    <https://energycentral.com/news/first-its-kind-technology-allows-pge-customers-safely-and-easily-connect-backup-power-their>

    Hey, at least you get compensated for the bad weather stuff.

    We even have special meters from PG&E that we can hook our generators
    up _directly_ to the meter when the power goes out. Fancy that from
    PG&E!

    Neat. Here some folks have solar panels with storage batteries so they
    can get a few extra hours from the batteries in a power failure.

    BTW, PG&E applied for a patent and says they designed these switches.
    <https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220217005846/en/First-of-its-Kind-Technology-Allows-PGE-Customers-to-Safely-and-Easily-Connect-Backup-Power-to-Their-Homes>

    It's a really neat device they give us to connect to the generator.
    <https://solarbuildermag.com/policy/pge-built-a-transfer-device-for-homes-in-high-fire-threat-districts-to-connect-backup-power-sources/>

    But you can only get it from PG&E for free if you're in the worst fire
    danger area and if they cut off your power due to frequent EPSS trips.
    <https://www.power-grid.com/smart-grid/pge-develops-backup-generator-meter-for-fire-threat-prone-customers/>

    _everyone_ in the neighborhood has them [BAOFENG UV-5R]. That's many
    hundreds of people who all have the same HAM radio as I do. What
    happened is one HAM enthusiast aficionado long ago sent out a
    suggestion we all chip in twenty-five bucks each and that would cover
    the radio and the testing

    Back in the day (got my first ticket in 1956) you had to pass a written
    AND a Morse Code test. Guess not anymore...

    I think they removed that requirement in 2010?

    No Morse Code anymore. But you do have to pass the written test.
    The way I passed the test was I put on my iPad a zillion free HAM radio tests, which contained the EXACT QUESTIONS to the exams (so it was easy).

    You can see my Ham Radio folder on my iPad in this old graphic in fact.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!

    Another back in the day story: Some of our original mountaintop
    repeaters had autopatches. There was a landline connection at the
    repeater site. You could actually call someone using your 2 meter
    handheld. This was pre-cellphone days so very handy. Course it wasn't
    very private since all of Phoenix hamdom could listen in...

    I know what you mean, but I don't know if the repeater we mostly use has that, but we have gotten people from extremely far away on the radio.

    I don't play with it all that much. Mostly I bring it on my backcountry hikes, where it's my emergency backup in case I break a leg or get bitten
    by a rattler or whatever.

    An FM radio isn't needed on hikes as much as a HAM radio would be; but if there was an emergency, I pity all those Apple iPhone owners without FM radios since they have to buy an FM radio just to get back what was previously already there for free in the first place (which Apple removed
    to protect their streaming revenue). They have to keep it plugged in or
    with batteries. And they have to find it in an emergency when their phone
    is already in their hands. Apple hoodwinked them. And they ate it all up.

    - which was why those two radios plus two tests cost me only fifty
    bucks (one for my wife and the other for me).

    Things are apparently a lot cheaper now, though I did used to get some
    pretty good deals at hamfests.

    I didn't do any of the buying but the guy who bought a thousand of them (or whatever the number was) got some kind of bulk deal so I'm happy with this.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/1zvGYNZt/hamradio.jpg> $25 bucks, including the test

    We have sequential federal Id's (ain't that sweet) where I don't
    remember them so since they have to be used, I write them on the back
    of the radio.

    Do you mean licenses with call letters? IIRC California was in the 6th
    call district. AZ is in the 7th and my call starts with W7...

    Oh my. I am glad I told you I was ignorant as I really forgot everything.
    All I know is I need to mention my call sign every five minutes or so.
    I don't remember it. So I taped it to the back of the radio.

    It's 10 minutes, I think.

    Lemme look for you... OK... my call sign is of the KMxxxx type, but some of my neighbors are ABxxx (notice only 5 characters for them but 6 for mine).

    As I said, I stuff the HAM radio into my pack when I do backcountry hiking, just in case, but I really never need to use it but, of course, if I don't put it in my pack, that's when I'll need to use it (Murphy's Law).

    Are those BAOFENG UV-5R radios any good?

    Specs look Ok. If they're reliable as is your repeater then they should
    work just fine.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baofeng_UV-5R>

    Thanks for checking on that as I wasn't sure how to respond to your first suggestion that the radio would not be powerful enough. It works for me.

    I talked the 3,500 gallon propane truck into giving me more than 85% as I normally run the built-in generator which runs off of propane.

    But I have a Nash Fuel hose so that I can fill up the twenty pound propane tanks from my 1,000 gallon residential propane tank and then I have the
    Flame King adaptor to fill my one-pound propane tanks from the twenty
    pounder (which is all very convenient). I refuel my cars at home too. :)
    <https://www.costco.com/flame-king-refillable-1lb.-empty-propane-cylinder-tank-16.4-oz%2C-2-pack---with-refill-kit.product.100679019.html>

    You learn to be self sufficient in the mountains, where, for example I even refill my five pound carbon dioxide tank myself, with dry ice, and then I
    use a high-pressure stainless steel hose to refill sodastream canisters.

    As another example, all of us have either a T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon femtocell (connected to the router) or a two-piece cellular repeater (I
    have both) so that our signal strength is perfect inside the house even though we're miles from the nearest cell towers.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/XJChDCPr/spare-access-points.jpg> cellular repeater

    We are so far in the boonies, that we don't have the option of cable, so we get all our Internet over the air from a nearby mountaintop too. Which
    makes us pretty self sufficient in an emergency...
    <https://i.postimg.cc/Gh22Sb2N/desktop.jpg> Desktop in shed with MikroTik

    Which, to come full circle, is why we know to feel sorry for the hapless iPhone users because having an FM radio on the phone is always better than not having it (despite Apple convincing them otherwise, somehow).

    If you want photos of anything I've said above, just ask. I was gonna snap some and upload them as I am a stickler for facts - but it's night and they'll suck without good light but in the morning let me know if there's
    any emergency safety item you're interesting in more information on,
    as I have everything that I said above - most for emergency purposes.

    Including the FM radio, aux jack & sd card in my free Galaxy A32-5G phone.

    Can you send pics?
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 19 11:07:14 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-11-19 09:37, candycanearter07 wrote:

    <blather snipped>

    Can you send pics?

    Despite the blather above, any serious prepper has everything planned
    out and set up to not depend smartphones or other such devices. The
    batteries do not last long enough.

    In an emergency a radio receiver should cover several bands (not just
    FM) and should be hand crankable. There are various cheap and not cheap
    ones on the usual sites.

    To flip it over - from the Troll's POV he should be shocked and angered
    that Android phones do not include AM - as much emergency broadcasting
    goes AM - in large part due to favourable nighttime propagation. (Why
    some AM stations are legally forced to shutdown at night and others are
    allowed to operate but possibly at reduced output power at night
    (Class-A aka "Clear channel" in North America)).

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sun Nov 19 16:38:23 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-11-19, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    You're a cowardly, tiny man child. And you are scared of the world.

    you try to attack me... trying to insult me.

    Why?

    Hilarious question coming from the loser troll who has been slinging
    little schoolyard juvenile "iKook" and "low IQ" insults at everyone in
    the Apple newsgroups who dares to use a certain product for which he has
    a raging, tiny, little hate boner for literal years...

    So be it.

    Indeed.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to AJL on Sun Nov 19 19:48:06 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote

    On 11/18/2023 10:47 PM, Wally J wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote

    we don't normally get rain from about March or April to about now.
    Sometimes we get rivers of rain. Sometimes not. It's fickle.
    Weather.

    Things are pretty constant here in the desert, hot and dry...

    Ah, hot and dry? We're hot and dry too (not as hot, and not as dry
    though), but we have thick "chaparral" which is flammable.

    And we have PG&E power distribution lines running through the chaparral.

    PG&E is to electricity as the Ford Pinto was to automobiles, so to speak.

    <https://yubanet.com/regional/as-californias-wildfire-season-starts-pge-turns-on-enhanced-powerline-safety-settings-across-all-high-fire-risk-areas/>

    Notice that we are on wells most of us in the mountains as they don't pump water thousands of feet up the hill I guess. So we draw our own water.

    Do you have a well out there in the desert?

    I don't know a single person that doesn't have at least one
    generator. Unfortunately, some people use a suicide cord, which is
    just dangerous.

    I had to look up 'suicide cord' cause in my last (and final) job I ran
    across a few folks who had hung themselves using an electric cord. But
    Google set me straight...

    It's called a suicide cord because it is male on both 220VAC ends of the
    cord; and if power is suddenly added to one end and you touch it...zzzap!

    <https://www.consumerreports.org/home-garden/generators/why-suicide-extension-cords-are-so-dangerous-a1189731437/>

    As far as I know, they don't sell these male-to-male cords; so you have to fabricate your own cord (which in and of itself, is another safety issue).

    Oh my! I just googled to make sure I was stating facts that they don't sell 'em, and they do! Yikes. I can't imagine what their lawyers think of that.

    <https://midrange.tedium.co/issues/consumer-product-safety-commission-suicide-cable/>

    With the male-to-male cord, people plug one male end into the female or
    into the female NEMA L1430R Locking Outlet on the generator and then they
    plug the other end into a corresponding female or 220VAC outlet (usually
    for a clothes dryer) anywhere they have it.

    <https://www.batteryequivalents.com/generator-suicide-cord-male-to-male-extension-cord.html>

    There's an additional issue if you don't also turn off the mains because
    you're back powering the grid (in effect) so a linesman is at risk if he "thinks" he's working on a dead line (but you're feeding into it).
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_fxXGb8t_k>

    BTW, a generator is like an FM radio out here in that it's nice to have
    when you need it, and, unfortunately, even PG&E says that we need it.

    <https://www.pge.com/en/outages-and-safety/safety/community-wildfire-safety-program.html>

    Just like with the FM radio built into the phone, you want a generator that
    is built into the house (which most of us have) with a transfer switch.

    Out here, a built-in generator always has a huge built-in (usually wall-mounted) transfer switch that automatically isolates the home & grid.

    Those wall-mounted transfer switch boxes have to be installed by an
    electrician and hence they cost a pretty penny just to isolate the grid.

    That's why it's so neat that PG&E will provide to people in the highest
    fire danger area and who are therefore subject to the EPSS shutoffs a free backup power transfer meter which isolates the grid & provides the cord.
    <https://www.avpsn.org/>

    The cord is, naturally, a female on the end that attaches to the meter.
    The cord is also fused (I think it's fused at 30 amps) on both lines.

    <https://www.avpsn.org/images/images/LED_Indicators_for_PGE_Backup_Power_Transfer_Meter.jpg>

    The only problem people have with the beefy cord is it's only 20 feet.

    But we can't find the proprietary four-pronged connectors that PG&E uses so we'd have to cannibalize the cord (or make a connection) which we won't do.

    It's bad that we need it but when we need it, it's nice to have this.

    <https://www.avpsn.org/images/images/power/pge_transfer_meter_operaton.pdf>

    Hmmm.... that's EXACTLY the point on the FM radio, isn't it?
    *It's better to have it for when you need it than to not have it at all!*

    Back in the day (got my first ticket in 1956) you had to pass a
    written AND a Morse Code test. Guess not anymore...

    No Morse Code anymore.

    Last I listened to the ham CW (Continuous Wave = Morse Code) bands they
    were dead. I suspect most all the CW ops I used to work are now dead too...

    I never listened on CW and I listened a bit in the very beginning to the repeater traffic but now it's only there for emergency or hiking use.


    But you do have to pass the written test. The way I passed the test
    was I put on my iPad a zillion free HAM radio tests, which contained
    the EXACT QUESTIONS to the exams (so it was easy).

    They had study books in the old days, but pretty much the same thing.

    The good part was EVERY question is covered in these tools, verbatim, even
    down to the specific letter (A,B,C,D) of the multiple-choice questions.

    The bad news is some of the tools cost money and I never buy programs for
    the smarphone or for the iPad, on principle of privacy alone.

    Of course, now the FCC knows EXACTLY who I am and where I live! :)

    I don't know if the repeater we mostly use has that [autopatch],

    Probably not. No reason these days with cell phones.

    I don't know. In the beginning they were doing radio checks where they got people on the other side of the valley - which is a good 30 or 40 miles.

    but we have gotten people from extremely far away on the radio.

    Depends on the repeater location and height. I could work hams in Tucson
    from Phoenix cause the repeater was on our South Mountain and had line
    of sight to both cities.

    We have plenty of LOS out here...

    Most mountains out here are about 3,000 to 4,000 feet, and much like it is
    in Phoenix, the mountains are surrounded by the valleys (so to speak).

    We get our WISP (wired) internet service over the air from miles away.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/VvqLKQtQ/wifi.jpg> Typical range is about 10 miles

    We're so used to it, that we even hook up powerful radios to our laptops.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/vT0Krpfc/laptop-nanobeam-horn.jpg> Laptop to horn

    What's interesting is that for less than people pay for a home router, we
    get access points that can go for miles & they can only go 300 feet or so.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/YqTk0q1T/ap.jpg> Cellular repeater & home Wi-Fi APs

    They're kind'a big though... :)

    I don't play with it [ham radio] all that much. Mostly I bring it on
    my backcountry hikes, where it's my emergency backup in case I break
    a leg or get bitten by a rattler or whatever.

    Depends on the backcountry and where the repeater is cause 2 meter
    repeaters generally require line of sight to work.

    You bring up a good point that when we hike, it's so mountanous and riven
    with gullies, gulches and steep ravines, that I liken hiking to a war.

    You can easily enter into a ravine on your own terms, just like you can
    easily enter a war on your own terms - but you can't get out on your own
    terms - you can only leave a steep ravine on the terms of the ravine.

    Which is basically first a stream and then a lake and then civilization.
    The mountains out here aren't old like they are in Phoenix (whose mountains were taller than the Himalayas at one point). Your mountains eroded to fill
    the valleys where our mountains are hundreds of millions of years newer,
    and hence more riven with gulches and gullies as yours have worn through.

    An FM radio isn't needed on hikes as much as a HAM radio would be;
    but if there was an emergency

    I see no value of an FM radio on a hike. A ham radio and/or cellphone
    makes more sense for the type of emergency likely encountered there.

    Agree. An FM radio is useful in emergencies when you want to know what's
    going on, which is why a phone with it is always better than one without.

    my call sign is of the KMxxxx type,

    I'm gonna guess that your call is KM6xxx if it goes by the old ways I remember. 6 is for the 6th district which is (was?) CA.

    Yup. I didn't want to give too much away but yes, it's a KM6xxx while the
    call sign I contact most is AB6xx where I was unaware how numbering worked.

    but some of my neighbors are ABxxx (notice only 5 characters for
    them but 6 for mine).

    4 character calls used to be reserved for the Extra Class (highest) ham license. It was a status symbol. Regular 5 character calls (like mine - W7xxx) were for everyone else (Technician, General, and Advanced).
    Except the Novice license which had an extra "N" inserted until they
    upgraded and lost the 'N' (they only had a year to upgrade). They ran
    out of the 5 character calls in the 60s IIRC so started the 6 character licenses. But things are likely different now, and I've not kept up.

    Ah. Thanks for that background detail. The guy who set up the group buy for
    the entire neighborhood is the one with that call sign. He's written books
    on the subject so I simply paid him my fifty bucks ($25 for me and for my
    wife) and my wife and I studied on the iPad and took the test en masse.

    The only reason I wanted the HAM radio was for emergency purposes.
    Just as that's the main reason my cell phone has an FM radio inside.

    all of us have either a T-Mobile, AT&T or Verizon femtocell
    (connected to the router) or a two-piece cellular repeater (I have
    both) so that our signal strength is perfect inside the house even
    though we're miles from the nearest cell towers.

    My Verizon is two bars in the house but I use WiFi calling and that
    solves the problem. Calls are then like a landline.

    Long ago, before 5G, T-Mobile would give people, gratis, in order:
    a. First, a wi-fi capable router (which is what you're using & I have)
    b. Then they started giving out the cellular repeater (which I have)
    c. And finally, they gave people the femtocell (which I also have)

    Each has an advantage that the other doesn't provide, just like having an
    aux jack, portable memory slot and FM radio in a cellphone gives you.
    A. A portable memory slot enables portable memory (which is nice)
    B. An aux jack enables wired headphone use (which is nice)
    C. An FM radio enables emergency information (which is nice)

    Just like I have all three basic hardware features (Wi-Fi router, cellular repeater, and cellular femtocell) each of which adds functionality...

    I have all three features in my free Samsung Galaxy A32-5G smart phone.
    a. AUX Jacks are in 75% of current Android models; *0% in current iPhones*
    b. FM Radio is in 50% of current Android models; *0% in current iPhones*
    c. Portable memory is in 71% of current Android models; *0% in iPhones*

    We are so far in the boonies, that we don't have the option of
    cable, so we get all our Internet over the air from a nearby
    mountaintop too. Which makes us pretty self sufficient in an
    emergency...

    My cable is pretty good but when it does go out the WiFi calling is too
    dumb to know it. It's apparently programmed to switch to the cell when
    it loses the WiFi signal but not when the WiFi is good but the Internet
    is gone. So a dead phone IF I don't happen to be online and catch it...

    Most of us have the same Wi-Fi-calling needs I would think, even as my
    signal inside the house is probably better than most due to the fact that I also have two separate towers in the home (a repeater and a femtocell).

    I just snapped these screenshots for you as I have a one-tap shortcuts
    folder which contains a single-tap jump to the relevant Wi-Fi setup.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/P5Kb99jy/wificall01.jpg> Roaming & Network Settings

    There are all sorts of Wi-Fi switching settings in Android that I'm not
    sure myself which are the most efficient settings. Maybe you can advise?
    <https://i.postimg.cc/xTDPzL5v/wificall02.jpg> Wi-Fi Calling Priorities

    Notice also that in Android "Developer options" there's more, e.g., you can prioritize "Wi-Fi Safe Mode" which prioritizes Wi-Fi over stability & you
    can set "Mobile Data Always Active" which keeps mobile data active even
    when on Wi-Fi which they claim is "for faster network switching".
    <https://i.postimg.cc/g0TVkhr6/wificall03.jpg> Wi-Fi Developer options

    As always, anyone who knows more about those settings should let the rest
    of us learn from them as I don't know which ones to set at what myself.
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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Nov 20 17:39:09 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Hilarious question coming from the loser troll who has been slinging
    little schoolyard juvenile "iKook" and "low IQ" insults at everyone in
    the Apple newsgroups who dares to use a certain product for which he has
    a raging, tiny, little hate boner for literal years...

    I try to understand you strange people, Jolly Roger, so I love your posts.

    You want this newsgroup to be all about the Apple YELLOW advertisements,
    which are "way cool" and you want it to be about their special glass that nobody else has the trademark for, and you want us to gloat about Apple's profits because that makes you feel your herd decisions are correct, etc.

    I get it, Jolly Roger.
    You want this newsgroup to only talk about Apple's marketing gimmicks.

    Whenever Apple spouts a new marketing gimmick (titanium!!!!!!!!!!!), you
    want all of us to rave about it - so that you feel better about your phone.

    OK. I'll help you.

    Do you want to know what Apple is the best in the world at, Jolly Roger?
    I know what Apple is better at than anyone else in the world, JR.

    Do you know what Apple does best?
    I do.

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  • From You're Kidding@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 21 00:45:11 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Nov 20, 2023 at 4:39:09 PM EST, "Wally J" <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    I know what Apple is better at than anyone else in the world, JR.

    DJT is actually Wally J?

    YK

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Wally J on Mon Nov 20 18:32:14 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 11/20/23 15:39, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Hilarious question coming from the loser troll who has been slinging
    little schoolyard juvenile "iKook" and "low IQ" insults at everyone in
    the Apple newsgroups who dares to use a certain product for which he has
    a raging, tiny, little hate boner for literal years...

    I try to understand you strange people, Jolly Roger, so I love your posts.

    You want this newsgroup to be all about the Apple YELLOW advertisements, which are "way cool" and you want it to be about their special glass that nobody else has the trademark for, and you want us to gloat about Apple's profits because that makes you feel your herd decisions are correct, etc.

    I get it, Jolly Roger.
    You want this newsgroup to only talk about Apple's marketing gimmicks.

    Whenever Apple spouts a new marketing gimmick (titanium!!!!!!!!!!!), you
    want all of us to rave about it - so that you feel better about your phone.

    OK. I'll help you.

    Do you want to know what Apple is the best in the world at, Jolly Roger?
    I know what Apple is better at than anyone else in the world, JR.

    Do you know what Apple does best?
    I do.

    Wow, they market phone material? Geez..
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to You're Kidding on Tue Nov 21 02:02:00 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-11-21, You're Kidding <yk@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Nov 20, 2023 at 4:39:09 PM EST, "Wally J" <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    I know what Apple is better at than anyone else in the world, JR.

    DJT is actually Wally J?

    Close, but nowhere near as successful... 🤣

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Tue Nov 21 02:01:26 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-11-21, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 11/20/23 15:39, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Hilarious question coming from the loser troll who has been slinging
    little schoolyard juvenile "iKook" and "low IQ" insults at everyone in
    the Apple newsgroups who dares to use a certain product for which he has >>> a raging, tiny, little hate boner for literal years...

    I try to understand you strange people, Jolly Roger, so I love your posts. >>
    You want this newsgroup to be all about the Apple YELLOW advertisements,
    which are "way cool" and you want it to be about their special glass that
    nobody else has the trademark for, and you want us to gloat about Apple's
    profits because that makes you feel your herd decisions are correct, etc.

    I get it, Jolly Roger.
    You want this newsgroup to only talk about Apple's marketing gimmicks.

    Whenever Apple spouts a new marketing gimmick (titanium!!!!!!!!!!!), you
    want all of us to rave about it - so that you feel better about your phone. >>
    OK. I'll help you.

    Do you want to know what Apple is the best in the world at, Jolly Roger?
    I know what Apple is better at than anyone else in the world, JR.

    Do you know what Apple does best?
    I do.

    Wow, they market phone material? Geez..

    Buncha losers, amiright? No other company markets their products!

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Tue Nov 21 02:00:54 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2023-11-20, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    Hilarious question coming from the loser troll who has been slinging
    little schoolyard juvenile "iKook" and "low IQ" insults at everyone
    in the Apple newsgroups who dares to use a certain product for which
    he has a raging, tiny, little hate boner for literal years...

    I try to understand you strange people

    You live to insult people. It's pretty much all you do.

    You want this newsgroup to be all about the Apple YELLOW

    LOL... Poor, little Arlen is *still* triggered as fuck that Apple dared
    to ,,,checks notes... release a different color iPhone... *GASP*
    ERRMEGHERD! The audacity! He and badgolferman have trolled about
    "YELLOW" for literal months like the mental toddlers they are. And they actually think you will *respect* them more for it. 🤣

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Nov 20 22:22:46 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    No other company markets their products!

    But oh what MARKETING it is to get women to buy "special" cigarettes made
    just for them, as you can see in this "You've come a long way baby"
    commercial (which uses the same "courageous" technique Apple does).

    <https://youtu.be/vXUbkIkwn2Y>

    Big Tobacco made women feel "courageous", now didn't they Jolly Roger.
    C'mon... look at the video... it's exactly like this Apple video...

    <https://youtu.be/oFyRks-Qw5Y>

    When Apple removes all the functionality from the iPhone, if you still
    decide to buy the crippled iPhone - you're a *courageous* person, JR!

    Do you hear all those people clapping when Apple announces the _removal_ of
    the headphone jack? Apple owners clap when functionality is removed, JR.

    That's courageous.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Nov 20 22:19:50 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    I try to understand you strange people

    You live to insult people. It's pretty much all you do.

    Awww... that's not being nice, Jolly Roger.
    I spend all that time and energy to _understand_ you, Jolly Roger.
    And then you make me feel bad.

    Truth is...

    I understand exactly _why_ you feel "courageous" when Apple removed all the basic functionaltiy from the iPhone - and - and - and you bought it anyway.

    That made you feel courageous, didn't it, Jolly Roger.
    C'mon. Tell us the truth.

    You felt the same courageous sense Big Tobacco made women feel with this
    <https://youtu.be/vXUbkIkwn2Y>

    BTW, I understand Apple marketing better than you think I do too, JR.

    Apple told you how to feel when they removed all the functionality JR.
    Just like Big Tobacco told women how to feel when they gave them cancer.
    --
    You can't make those ungodly profits without gullible people buying it.

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