The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity and art.
On 2024-05-10, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
On 2024-05-10, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity
and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty
creepy on another. Overall, not the best way to tout the
iPad's artistic versatility.
On 2024-05-10, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
Apple apologizes for its iPad Pro ad https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/tech/apple-apologizes-for-ipad-pro-ad/index.html
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity and art.
Chris Schram wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity
and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty
creepy on another. Overall, not the best way to tout the
iPad's artistic versatility.
It looked good and I could see what they were trying to convey,
but at the end of the day it was just an advert...
People these days seem easily triggered and want to complain
about everything.
On 2024-05-10, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
On 2024-05-10 03:00, Chris Schram wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
I neglected to include the link to Stephen Colbert's grisly parody of
Apple's ad:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FHTbsxx9JQ>
I'll look at that later - love his takes.
Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 18:33:42 GMT :
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
I usually tune out Apple advertisements during their announcements (and
I generally avoid watching advertisements in general anyway). I was
indifferent to it when I watched it again, and I don't take anyone
claiming to be offended by it very seriously. It's just an ad.
Given all your statements about Apple come from Apple advertisements,
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
I usually tune out Apple advertisements during their announcements (and
I generally avoid watching advertisements in general anyway). I was indifferent to it when I watched it again, and I don't take anyone
claiming to be offended by it very seriously. It's just an ad.
Chris Schram wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-10, Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:
The ad celebrated Apple's destruction of human creativity
and art.
According to clowns and trolls.
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty
creepy on another. Overall, not the best way to tout the
iPad's artistic versatility.
It looked good and I could see what they were trying to convey,
but at the end of the day it was just an advert...
People these days seem easily triggered and want to complain
about everything.
On 2024-05-10 14:30, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 18:33:42 GMT :
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
I usually tune out Apple advertisements during their announcements
(and I generally avoid watching advertisements in general anyway). I
was indifferent to it when I watched it again, and I don't take anyone
claiming to be offended by it very seriously. It's just an ad.
Given all your statements about Apple come from Apple advertisements,
LOL!
On 2024-05-10 14:30, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 18:33:42 GMT :
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
I usually tune out Apple advertisements during their announcements
(and I generally avoid watching advertisements in general anyway). I
was indifferent to it when I watched it again, and I don't take
anyone claiming to be offended by it very seriously. It's just an
ad.
Given all your statements about Apple come from Apple advertisements,
LOL!
On Fri, 10 May 2024 14:33:50 -0700, Alan wrote:
On 2024-05-10 14:30, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 18:33:42 GMT :
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
I usually tune out Apple advertisements during their announcements
(and I generally avoid watching advertisements in general anyway). I
was indifferent to it when I watched it again, and I don't take anyone >>>> claiming to be offended by it very seriously. It's just an ad.
Given all your statements about Apple come from Apple advertisements,
LOL!
Well, now that Arlen has entered the room, I suppose this conversation is over. So I guess It's now OK to broaden the discussion, and eventually
drag it far off-topic.
In an online article commenting on the recent Apple ad, it was hinted that videos of various objects being crushed by a hydraulic press has become
some sort of social media meme, perhaps a logical successor to "Will It Blend." Perhaps I lead a sheltered life, but I have not viewed other such videos. That would make Apple's ad a humorous (?!) parody of an existing meme. I'll bet the committee that dreamed it up had a great laugh.
I'm really overthinking this, but the more I overthink it, the concept of crushing traditional creativity tools to splinters and goo, before compressing them into an iPad, seems not the very best way to advertise
the iPad's creativity tools.
So Stephen Colbert's parody is a parody of a parody of a social media
meme. My brain hurts!
Imagine going through life...
Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 22:20:36 GMT :
Imagine going through life...
Imagine going through life defending everything Apple to the death.
Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 22:29:17 GMT :
It's a light-hearted advertisement, and nothing more. People reading
too much into it is exactly how we got here in the first place.
Since you get all your information only from Apple advertisements
On Fri, 10 May 2024 14:33:50 -0700, Alan wrote:
On 2024-05-10 14:30, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 10 May 2024 18:33:42 GMT :
I found the ad visually stunning on one level, but pretty creepy on
another. Overall, not the best way to tout the iPad's artistic
versatility.
I usually tune out Apple advertisements during their announcements
(and I generally avoid watching advertisements in general anyway). I
was indifferent to it when I watched it again, and I don't take
anyone claiming to be offended by it very seriously. It's just an ad.
Given all your statements about Apple come from Apple advertisements,
LOL!
Well, now that Arlen has entered the room, I suppose this conversation
is over. So I guess It's now OK to broaden the discussion, and
eventually drag it far off-topic.
In an online article commenting on the recent Apple ad, it was hinted
that videos of various objects being crushed by a hydraulic press has
become some sort of social media meme, perhaps a logical successor to
"Will It Blend." Perhaps I lead a sheltered life, but I have not viewed
other such videos. That would make Apple's ad a humorous (?!) parody of
an existing meme. I'll bet the committee that dreamed it up had a great laugh.
I'm really overthinking this, but the more I overthink it, the concept
of crushing traditional creativity tools to splinters and goo, before compressing them into an iPad, seems not the very best way to advertise
the iPad's creativity tools.
trying to deflect from the fact
He repeats himself endlessly because he has no
original thoughts - just lies and hate.
Imagine going through life trying to do the opposite...
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 04:35:37 GMT :
trying to deflect from the fact
What I do [more deflection]
Chris wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 10:31:20 -0000 (UTC) :
Imagine going through life trying to do the opposite...
What I do here is point out the facts to you religious zealots.
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 04:36:58 GMT :
He repeats himself endlessly because he has no
original thoughts - just lies and hate.
The facts are what I repeat
repeat your juvenile trolls
What I do here is point out the facts to you religious zealots.
What you do is troll because you hate Apple and anyone who dares to use
Apple products.
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 19:38:44 GMT :
repeat your juvenile trolls
And yet, what you call a "juvenile troll" is
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
Earlier this week, Apple released a document clarifying its terminology
and policies around software upgrades and updates. Most of the
information in the document isn't new, but the company did provide one clarification about its update policy that it hadn't made explicit
before: Despite providing security updates for multiple versions of
macOS and iOS at any given time, Apple says that only devices running
the most recent major operating system versions should expect to be
fully protected.
In other words, while Apple will provide security-related updates for
older versions of its operating systems, only the most recent upgrades
will receive updates for every security problem Apple knows about.
------
-- Does Android provide ALL security updates for every major version of software release?
-- Is there a reason not to upgrade to the newest major version of iOS
within a few weeks of release?
-- How old must an iPhone be before it can support the newest iOS major version release?
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 19:36:54 GMT :
What I do here is point out the facts to you religious zealots.
What you do is troll because you hate Apple and anyone who dares to use
Apple products.
And yet I likely own and use and buy more Apple products than you do.
All you do is troll. Its your entire pathetic life.
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 21:19:45 GMT :
All you do is troll. Its your entire pathetic life.
I feel sorry for people like you, Jolly Roger, because your entire
life you've been told that you're stupid (which is why you don't have
any education and partly it's why you're so ignorant about Apple
products).
On 2024-05-11, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 19:38:44 GMT :
repeat your juvenile trolls
And yet, what you call a "juvenile troll" is
Your schoolyard insults.
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Chris wrote on Sat, 11 May 2024 10:31:20 -0000 (UTC) :
Imagine going through life trying to do the opposite...
What I do here is point out the facts
The only thing you do is try to support your own internal bias.
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 19:36:54 GMT :
What I do here is point out the facts to you religious zealots.
What you do is troll because you hate Apple and anyone who dares to use
Apple products.
And yet I likely own and use and buy more Apple products than you do.
The difference is that I know what Apple does and I know what iOS is.
You do not. You didn't know that ios has built capability to easily create your own geofence functionality. How's it going with helping your elderly relative?
Chris wrote:
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 11 May 2024 19:36:54 GMT :
What I do here is point out the facts to you religious zealots.
What you do is troll because you hate Apple and anyone who dares to use >>>> Apple products.
And yet I likely own and use and buy more Apple products than you do.
The difference is that I know what Apple does and I know what iOS is.
You do not. You didn't know that ios has built capability to easily create >> your own geofence functionality. How's it going with helping your elderly
relative?
You forgot to mention that he is arlen.
Shame on you.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Does Android provide ALL security updates for every major
version of software release?
No. That would be a huge amount of effort as there have been 14
major versions. Probably the most 2-3 recent are supported.
-- Is there a reason not to upgrade to the newest major version of
iOS within a few weeks of release?
Nope.
-- How old must an iPhone be before it can support the newest iOS
major version release?
Not sure what you mean here, but iOS 15, 16 and 17 have received
several updates this year. IOS 15 supports back to the iphone 6
which is nearly nine years old.
According to the articles Arlen provided, Apple admits to only fully
supporting the current software version (17) with security updates.
Did you read the link Andrew/Arlen/whatever shared? Did you draw the
same conclusion as him?
What he says and what he can show/prove are often very different
things.
How are you claiming 15,16, 17 are supported?
Look here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
You can see that two or three have been updated at the same three
times this year alone: 22nd Jan, 5th Mar, 22nd Mar. Since the release
of iOS 17, iOS 16 has received eight updates and iOS 15 has received
three.
That's clear evidence to show that Apple are still maintaining (aka supporting) the current and previous two versions of iOS.
That's clear evidence to show that Apple are still maintaining (aka
supporting) the current and previous two versions of iOS.
Yes, but we're supposed to ignore reality: 67% of devices run iOS 17,
19% run iOS 16, 8% run iOS 15 = 94% of devices are running the three
most recent versions of iOS. As you have shown, Apple is patching iOS 17 through iOS 15. And just like every operating system vendor, Apple
patches known bugs in the most recent releases of its operating systems
first and in older versions later. Naturally this means that if you are running an older version of an operating system, some bugs may not
be patched as quickly (or at all if it's a really old version). Again,
this isn't exclusive to Apple's operating systems. It's fairly standard practice in the industry. But badgolferman and his best bud, Arlen, definitely want to paint it as an Apple-exclusive thing.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Does Android provide ALL security updates for every major version of
software release?
No. That would be a huge amount of effort as there have been 14 major versions. Probably the most 2-3 recent are supported.
-- Is there a reason not to upgrade to the newest major version of iOS
within a few weeks of release?
Nope.
-- How old must an iPhone be before it can support the newest iOS major
version release?
Not sure what you mean here, but iOS 15, 16 and 17 have received several updates this year. IOS 15 supports back to the iphone 6 which is nearly
nine years old.
Chris wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 12:54:17 -0000 (UTC) :
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Does Android provide ALL security updates for every major version of
software release?
No. That would be a huge amount of effort as there have been 14 major
versions. Probably the most 2-3 recent are supported.
-- Is there a reason not to upgrade to the newest major version of iOS
within a few weeks of release?
Nope.
-- How old must an iPhone be before it can support the newest iOS major
version release?
Not sure what you mean here, but iOS 15, 16 and 17 have received several
updates this year. IOS 15 supports back to the iphone 6 which is nearly
nine years old.
For badgolferman, Chris is just wrong.
<https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>
"*Samsung phones now come backed with _seven_ years' worth of*
*security updates and _seven_ generations of OS upgrades*."
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Does Android provide ALL security updates for every major version of
software release?
No. That would be a huge amount of effort as there have been 14 major
versions. Probably the most 2-3 recent are supported.
-- Is there a reason not to upgrade to the newest major version of iOS
within a few weeks of release?
Nope.
-- How old must an iPhone be before it can support the newest iOS major
version release?
Not sure what you mean here, but iOS 15, 16 and 17 have received several
updates this year. IOS 15 supports back to the iphone 6 which is nearly
nine years old.
According to the articles Arlen provided, Apple admits to only fully supporting the current software version (17) with security updates. How are you claiming 15,16, 17 are supported?
On 2024-05-12 13:22, Andrew wrote:
Chris wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 12:54:17 -0000 (UTC) :
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Does Android provide ALL security updates for every major
version of software release?
No. That would be a huge amount of effort as there have been 14
major versions. Probably the most 2-3 recent are supported.
-- Is there a reason not to upgrade to the newest major version of
iOS within a few weeks of release?
Nope.
-- How old must an iPhone be before it can support the newest iOS
major version release?
Not sure what you mean here, but iOS 15, 16 and 17 have received
several updates this year. IOS 15 supports back to the iphone 6
which is nearly nine years old.
For badgolferman, Chris is just wrong.
<https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>
"*Samsung phones now come backed with _seven_ years' worth of*
*security updates and _seven_ generations of OS upgrades*."
That's a promise for the newest Samsung Galaxy phones only:
'Seven years of security and OS upgrades is a big jump up from the
five years of security and four years of OS updates in last year's
Galaxy S23 models'
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:04:24 GMT :
That's clear evidence to show that Apple are still maintaining (aka
supporting) the current and previous two versions of iOS.
Yes, but we're supposed to ignore reality: 67% of devices run iOS 17,
19% run iOS 16, 8% run iOS 15 = 94% of devices are running the three
most recent versions of iOS. As you have shown, Apple is patching iOS
17 through iOS 15. And just like every operating system vendor, Apple
patches known bugs in the most recent releases of its operating
systems first and in older versions later. Naturally this means that
if you are running an older version of an operating system, some bugs
may not be patched as quickly (or at all if it's a really old
version). Again, this isn't exclusive to Apple's operating systems.
It's fairly standard practice in the industry. But badgolferman and
his best bud, Arlen, definitely want to paint it as an
Apple-exclusive thing.
I don't even care about iOS
ignorant iKooks
how stupid they are
Seriously sad.
Dangerously sad.
how ignorant these religious zealots are.
uneducated ignorant religious zealots
religious ignorant uneducated religious zealots
They are desperate trolls.
That doesn't contradict what I wrote. This is a recently announced change
and is the policy only of Samsung (and google) not Android. What will other manufacturers do?
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:00:49 GMT :
On 2024-05-12, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
I don't even care about iOS
LOL... Clown boy Arlen, who trolls the iOS newsgroup relentlessly,
wants everyone to know he AKTUALLY doesn't care about iOS. 🤡
ignorant iKooks
how stupid they are
Seriously sad.
Dangerously sad.
how ignorant these religious zealots are.
uneducated ignorant religious zealots
religious ignorant uneducated religious zealots
Struck a nerve, Arlen? Not only do you very clearly care enough to
troll here 24/7 non-stop, but you can't help but show the world just
how much you care by slinging schoolyard insults at anyone who dares
to use Apple products or call you out on your bullshit. You're a
pathetic shit stain of a human being. Just sad.
You're a pathetic shit stain of a human being. Just sad.
Interesting how the Apple religious zealots respond to facts
Chris wrote on Mon, 13 May 2024 06:43:02 -0000 (UTC) :
That doesn't contradict what I wrote. This is a recently announced
change and is the policy only of Samsung (and google) not Android.
What will other manufacturers do?
It was five years prior
Now do Android, since this is a smartphone newsgroup.
Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 20:59:11 GMT :
He thinks the rest of you are just as clueless and easily manipulated
You called me a troll
Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 21:00:10 GMT :
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:07:11 GMT :
They are desperate trolls.
Windows has been providing full hotfix support for Windows 10
Now do Android, since this is a smartphone newsgroup.
Samsung and Google both have 7 years of full support, Jolly Roger.
Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 21:00:10 GMT :
Now do Android, since this is a smartphone newsgroup.
Samsung and Google both have 7 years of full support, Jolly Roger.
*Samsung Extends Android and Security Updates to 7 Years*
<https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>
"Samsung phones now come backed with seven years' worth of
security updates and seven generations of OS upgrades."
*Google just put Apple and Samsung on notice - 7 years of software updates*
<https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/google-pixel-8-software-updates>
"That support covers everything, including full Android updates,
the regular Pixel feature drops and security updates."
Don't you ever wonder why iOS is the most exploited phone OS in history?
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
Do you think it might be because Apple only fully supports one release?
Samsung and Google both have 7 years of full support, Jolly Roger.
Not since 2007, they haven't. Apple has supported their devices longer
than most for about a couple decades.
Your trolls are desperate and weak,
Rather than use pointless anecdotes, including my iphone XR from 2019 which has had 5 full upgrades and is still fully supported, let's look at the
facts shall we?
https://endoflife.date/iphone
Oldest models still supported: 6s/6s Plus
Released: Sep 2015
No. major updates: 6
Because you are one.
Jolly Roger wrote:
Because you are one.
And yet, [more trolling ignored]
Straight to ad hominem, as usual.
And yet, [more trolling ignored]
Jolly Roger wrote on 14 May 2024 19:41:24 GMT :
Straight to ad hominem, as usual.
Jolly Roger wrote on 14 May 2024 19:41:48 GMT :
And yet, [more trolling ignored]
[more trolling ignored]
[more trolling ignored]
Jolly Roger wrote on 14 May 2024 23:25:59 GMT :
[more trolling ignored]
[more trolling ignored]
[more trolling ignored]
Talk about completely whooshing the point. Do you even read?
FACT:
*Apple only fully supports one and only one major release*
Not fact.
Apple can only fully support currently implemented architectures.
The fact is Apple does update 17, 16 & 15 regularly.
REFERENCES:
<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
<https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>
That last arsetechnica article makes an invalid point in comparing two 5
year old computers and claims the mac would have to be junked due to
company policy due to to no more support. What it forgets is that companies have policies of refreshing hardware on a 3, 4, 5 year cycle anyway regardless of whether it's supported or not.
A 5 year old PC will be on its knees as well.
Jolly Roger wrote on 15 May 2024 02:45:24 GMT :
[more trolling ignored]
Facts.
The iPhone is exploited over ten times more than Android is.
The iPhone is exploited over ten times more than Android is.
Nope, that's not a fact.
Jolly Roger wrote on 16 May 2024 01:56:17 GMT :
The iPhone is exploited over ten times more than Android is.
Nope, that's not a fact.
You don't like that fact but it's still a fact, Jolly Roger. <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
Jolly Roger wrote:
Total iPhone: 131
Total Android: 84
Isn't that bad enough?
Total iPhone: 131
Total Android: 84
Isn't that bad enough?
badgolferman wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 16:44:46 -0000 (UTC) :
Total iPhone: 131
Total Android: 84
Isn't that bad enough?
Using those numbers the iPhone is *currently* exploited 1.64 times more
than is Android, so I stand corrected (last I had checked, admittedly a
while ago, it was much higher). I agree it's not ten times more.
I apologize.
Thanks to Jolly Roger for stating the truth about Apple products' safety.
While the numbers of known exploits can and will change almost daily, as
far as I've seen, the iPhone _always_ has far more exploits than does
Android - where my main point is that Apple never advertises these facts.
In fact, I did respond when you said Apple supports multiple releases.
I said that is a lie.
You don't even respond to people's point. You just repeat the same verbal diarrhoea on the same single narrow, boring thing.
You're obsessing on the word "fully" which is open to interpretation as I posted to badgolferman the other day.
Now, I do admit that Apple could be much more explicit by what it means
like Google and Samsung have done recently.
The *evidence* does remain that in the last year the three most recent ios versions are updated constantly.
every
operating system vendor, including Apple, fixes egregious bugs in every
release, even releases a decade old - but that does not mean they fix every >> bug they know of in that release - and - in fact - Apple specifically
states that they do NOT fix every bug they know of in any release but in
the latest release. That's just a fact, Chris.
What we don't know is why? For example, not all win11 bugs will update in win10 because they are different oses.
My desktop PC was built in 2009, Chris, and it kicks ass because it was
built by me with high end components of that day and age - and it has full >> operating system support for all bugs that Microsoft knows about.
Like every corporation allows their employers to build their own high spec PC. lol, no.
On 2024-05-17 08:33, Andrew wrote:
badgolferman wrote on Thu, 16 May 2024 16:44:46 -0000 (UTC) :
Total iPhone: 131
Total Android: 84
Isn't that bad enough?
Using those numbers the iPhone is *currently* exploited 1.64 times
more than is Android
Or the whole thing is a lot more nuanced than you'd like to pretend it
is...
I apologize. Thanks to Jolly Roger for stating the truth about Apple
products' safety.
While the numbers of known exploits can and will change almost daily,
as far as I've seen, the iPhone _always_ has far more exploits than
does Android - where my main point is that Apple never advertises
these facts.
But yesterday, "as far as [you'd] seen", you were claiming it was "ten
times" as many...
...so we know a lot about how much to trust your conclusions, don't
we?
Still wrong, since we haven't included other popular Android smartphones
in the equation.
His trolls are as weak as his intellect. All are easily proven false.
Jolly Roger wrote on 17 May 2024 16:21:07 GMT :
Still wrong, since we haven't included other popular Android smartphones
in the equation.
Apple zealots
Apple marketing
Apple's support
His trolls are as weak as his intellect. All are easily proven false.
You call every fact
I'm logical. I based my assessments on documented facts.
Only cherry-picked facts. That's lying by omission. Plus many things you claim to be facts are actually opinions.
In fact, I did respond when you said Apple supports multiple releases.
I said that is a lie.
That's not the point of what I was saying in this thread and provided evidence of: Apple has historically supported iphones far, far longer than either Samsung or Google.
Let me repeat for your benefit as you cowardly snipped it before: https://endoflife.date/iphone Oldest models still supported: 6s/6s Plus Released: Sep 2015
No. major updates: 6
https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile Oldest models still supported: Galaxy A01/A51* Released: Dec 2018
No. major updates: ?
* S20 models (from 2020) are no longer supported
https://endoflife.date/pixel Oldest models still supported: Pixel 5a Released: Aug 2021
No. major updates: 3
Apple always has more than 1.5 times the exploits that Android has.
It was "10 times more" only a couple of days ago.
You got caught lying yet again.
Currently Windows 10 and Windows 11 are fully supported (AFAIK).
1. That means all known Microsoft-caused bugs in Win10 are patched.
2. That means all known Microsoft-caused bugs in Win11 are patched.
3. Often they're the same bugs and the same patch - but not always.
And you know that how? Where's the evidence that every MS known bug is
fixed in Win11 and Win 10?
They were replaced roughly about every two years, as I recall.
They even replaced my keyboard and mouse and monitors as frequently.
Thanks for confirming that the arsetechnica article is based on a false premise: no corporation would keep supporting five-year old hardware regardless of whether MS/Apple does.
These numbers don't include vulnerabilities from all Android smartphone vendors, but do include all iPhones since only Apple makes them.
Any
rational adult will know that it is therefore inherently unfair to
exclude some Android vulnerabilities from some Android smartphone
vendors when comparing to iPhones. You know this. You just don't care
because of your very clear bias.
His trolls are as weak as his intellect. All are easily proven false.
You call every fact
Your so-called "fact" (that Apple's iPhones are exploited ten times as
much as Android phones" has been easily proven to be FALSE - a LIE -
which greatly upsets you.
You're emotional. You're not in a position of
rationality. So you resort to ad hominem slinging your little schoolyard insults. You're a pathetic mental & emotional weakling.
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