Most people have no idea how much money $3 trillion actually is.
Settling these cases isn't nearly as big of a deal as the resident
trolls want to make it out to be.
Jolly Roger wrote on 25 May 2024 16:26:08 GMT :
Most people have no idea how much money $3 trillion actually is.
Settling these cases isn't nearly as big of a deal as the resident
trolls want to make it out to be.
Apple's losing of all these billion-dollar lawsuits
It cost Apple a billion dollars for Apple's lies about batteries
Apple lost every single lawsuit that we know of on that.
Apple secretly throttled iPhones.
Apple secretly backdated the release notes.
Apple brazenly lied about why they did that.
And Apple was forced in the criminal case to publish a mea culpa.
Which Apple did because Apple was guilty of lowering the life of
iPhones.
This time, Apple is (as far as I an tell) again brazenly lying.
Apple sure does lose a lot of lawsuits
Both sides settled amicably...
and Apple admitted no wrongdoing...
which
means Apple lost none of them. Also, none of these law suits were for billions of dollars.
He just blurts it out and expects gullible morons to swallow it
without question.
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Nope. The overwhelming majority of these lawsuits were settled amicably
by both sides, with Apple admitting no wrongdoing - nobody lost those
cases - they were settled.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, Apple mentioned the power management feature in the release notes.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, the release notes are public, right on their website.
Nope, and you can't cite this supposed lie, because it doesn't exist.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, there were no criminal cases resulting from this performance
management feature which still exists in every iPhone sold today.
Nope, untrue. Apple settles a lot of them amicably though - while
admitting no wrongdoing.
It's no longer shocking how ignorant the Apple religious zealots are, so
here are just a few search terms for all the cases Apple lost that the ignorant Apple religious zealots haven't heard about - but which everyone else knows about since every one was discussed in this very newsgroup.
For example:
<https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-becerra-announces-113-million-multistate-settlement-against>
"Attorney General Becerra Announces $113 Million Multistate
Settlement Against Apple for Misrepresenting iPhone Batteries
and Performance Throttling"
*France: Watchdog Agency Fines Apple for Deceitful Practice*
<https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2020-02-28/france-watchdog-agency-fines-apple-for-deceitful-practice/>
"HOP accused Apple of intentionally causing older iPhone models to
slow down in order to push owners to replace them with newer models."
*Apple Settles with French Authorities over 25 Million Fine*
<https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2020/03/apple-settles-with-french-authorities-over-25-mill>
"Under French law, using misleading commercial practices
is a criminal offense."
*Apple pays out over claims it deliberately slowed down iPhones*
<https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67911517>
"The US case dates back to December 2017, when Apple confirmed
a long-held suspicion among phone owners by admitting it had
deliberately (and secretly!) slowed down some iPhones."
*France hits Apple with $27 million fine over the battery issue *
<https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-battery-life-leads-to-27-million-fine-against-apple-in-france/>
"Along with the fine, the agency is also compelling Apple on its
website in France to display a notice telling consumers that the
company has been found to have engaged in deceptive commercial
practice by omission regarding the software updates starting with
iOS 10.2.1 that throttled iPhone 6�s, as well as the iPhone SE
and iPhone 7."
Jolly Roger wrote on 26 May 2024 18:50:00 GMT :
Both sides settled amicably...
Since Apple was guilty, a billion dollars in penalties was the best they could get, so, yeah, sure, I'd be amicable if I got a billion from Apple.
and Apple admitted no wrongdoing...
Ah, but Apple did in the French criminal case where part of the agreement
was Apple had to publicly admit they were sorry for a month, Jolly ROger.
which
means Apple lost none of them. Also, none of these law suits were for
billions of dollars.
The total is well over billions of dollars that Apple lost, Jolly Roger.
He just blurts it out and expects gullible morons to swallow it
without question.
Apple's losses in recent lawsuits is well over billions of dollars.
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
It's no longer shocking how ignorant the Apple religious zealots are, so
here are just a few search terms for all the cases Apple lost that the
ignorant Apple religious zealots haven't heard about - but which everyone
else knows about since every one was discussed in this very newsgroup.
For example:
<https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-becerra-announces-113-million-multistate-settlement-against>
"Attorney General Becerra Announces $113 Million Multistate
Settlement Against Apple for Misrepresenting iPhone Batteries
and Performance Throttling"
*France: Watchdog Agency Fines Apple for Deceitful Practice*
<https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2020-02-28/france-watchdog-agency-fines-apple-for-deceitful-practice/>
"HOP accused Apple of intentionally causing older iPhone models to
slow down in order to push owners to replace them with newer models."
*Apple Settles with French Authorities over 25 Million Fine*
<https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2020/03/apple-settles-with-french-authorities-over-25-mill>
"Under French law, using misleading commercial practices
is a criminal offense."
*Apple pays out over claims it deliberately slowed down iPhones*
<https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67911517>
"The US case dates back to December 2017, when Apple confirmed
a long-held suspicion among phone owners by admitting it had
deliberately (and secretly!) slowed down some iPhones."
*France hits Apple with $27 million fine over the battery issue *
<https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-battery-life-leads-to-27-million-fine-against-apple-in-france/>
"Along with the fine, the agency is also compelling Apple on its
website in France to display a notice telling consumers that the
company has been found to have engaged in deceptive commercial
practice by omission regarding the software updates starting with
iOS 10.2.1 that throttled iPhone 6ขs, as well as the iPhone SE
and iPhone 7."
Jolly Roger wrote on 26 May 2024 18:50:00 GMT :
Both sides settled amicably...
Since Apple was guilty, a billion dollars in penalties was the best they
could get, so, yeah, sure, I'd be amicable if I got a billion from Apple.
and Apple admitted no wrongdoing...
Ah, but Apple did in the French criminal case where part of the agreement
was Apple had to publicly admit they were sorry for a month, Jolly ROger.
which
means Apple lost none of them. Also, none of these law suits were for
billions of dollars.
The total is well over billions of dollars that Apple lost, Jolly Roger.
He just blurts it out and expects gullible morons to swallow it
without question.
Apple's losses in recent lawsuits is well over billions of dollars.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope. The overwhelming majority of these lawsuits were settled amicably
by both sides, with Apple admitting no wrongdoing - nobody lost those
cases - they were settled.
They had Apple over the legal barrel given how guilty Apple was, so, yeah, >> sure, they were happy to get billions of dollars in penalties from Apple.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, Apple mentioned the power management feature in the release notes.
It's not surprising that you ignorant Apple religious zealots are
completely unaware of the separate lawsuits (which were combined) from
dozens of state attorneys general that Apple also lost, mainly because
Apple got caught separately secretly backdating those release notes.
That one act of secretly backdating the release notes cost Apple millions
of dollars in penalties - which - again - the attorneys general were happy >> to amicably extract from Apple given how guilty Apple was in doing that.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, the release notes are public, right on their website.
And yet, Apple clearly got caught secretly backdating the mention of the
throttling, Jolly Roger. The fact you're unaware of what everyone else is
well aware of (given it was a separate court case) is no longer shocking.
Nope, and you can't cite this supposed lie, because it doesn't exist.
It's a separate court case, Jolly Roger. Which you're ignorant of.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, there were no criminal cases resulting from this performance
management feature which still exists in every iPhone sold today.
Heh heh heh... The French criminal case is well known, Jolly Roger.
It's no longer shocking how ignorant all you Apple religious zealots are.
Nope, untrue. Apple settles a lot of them amicably though - while
admitting no wrongdoing.
It's no longer shocking that you Apple religious zealots think paying over >> a billion dollars in penalties means Apple did nothing wrong, Jolly Roger. >>
If I was innocent of wrong doing and had all that money, I’d be paying lawyers to keep my name and reputation clean, rather than giving it to the government and looking guilty.
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
It's no longer shocking how ignorant the Apple religious zealots are, so
here are just a few search terms for all the cases Apple lost that the
ignorant Apple religious zealots haven't heard about - but which everyone
else knows about since every one was discussed in this very newsgroup.
For example:
<https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-becerra-announces-113-million-multistate-settlement-against>
"Attorney General Becerra Announces $113 Million Multistate
Settlement Against Apple for Misrepresenting iPhone Batteries
and Performance Throttling"
*France: Watchdog Agency Fines Apple for Deceitful Practice*
<https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2020-02-28/france-watchdog-agency-fines-apple-for-deceitful-practice/>
"HOP accused Apple of intentionally causing older iPhone models to
slow down in order to push owners to replace them with newer models."
*Apple Settles with French Authorities over 25 Million Fine*
<https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2020/03/apple-settles-with-french-authorities-over-25-mill>
"Under French law, using misleading commercial practices
is a criminal offense."
*Apple pays out over claims it deliberately slowed down iPhones*
<https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67911517>
"The US case dates back to December 2017, when Apple confirmed
a long-held suspicion among phone owners by admitting it had
deliberately (and secretly!) slowed down some iPhones."
*France hits Apple with $27 million fine over the battery issue *
<https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-battery-life-leads-to-27-million-fine-against-apple-in-france/>
"Along with the fine, the agency is also compelling Apple on its
website in France to display a notice telling consumers that the
company has been found to have engaged in deceptive commercial
practice by omission regarding the software updates starting with
iOS 10.2.1 that throttled iPhone 6ขs, as well as the iPhone SE
and iPhone 7."
Jolly Roger wrote on 26 May 2024 18:50:00 GMT :
Both sides settled amicably...
Since Apple was guilty, a billion dollars in penalties was the best they
could get, so, yeah, sure, I'd be amicable if I got a billion from Apple.
and Apple admitted no wrongdoing...
Ah, but Apple did in the French criminal case where part of the agreement
was Apple had to publicly admit they were sorry for a month, Jolly ROger.
which
means Apple lost none of them. Also, none of these law suits were for
billions of dollars.
The total is well over billions of dollars that Apple lost, Jolly Roger.
He just blurts it out and expects gullible morons to swallow it
without question.
Apple's losses in recent lawsuits is well over billions of dollars.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope. The overwhelming majority of these lawsuits were settled amicably
by both sides, with Apple admitting no wrongdoing - nobody lost those
cases - they were settled.
They had Apple over the legal barrel given how guilty Apple was, so, yeah, >> sure, they were happy to get billions of dollars in penalties from Apple.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, Apple mentioned the power management feature in the release notes.
It's not surprising that you ignorant Apple religious zealots are
completely unaware of the separate lawsuits (which were combined) from
dozens of state attorneys general that Apple also lost, mainly because
Apple got caught separately secretly backdating those release notes.
That one act of secretly backdating the release notes cost Apple millions
of dollars in penalties - which - again - the attorneys general were happy >> to amicably extract from Apple given how guilty Apple was in doing that.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, the release notes are public, right on their website.
And yet, Apple clearly got caught secretly backdating the mention of the
throttling, Jolly Roger. The fact you're unaware of what everyone else is
well aware of (given it was a separate court case) is no longer shocking.
Nope, and you can't cite this supposed lie, because it doesn't exist.
It's a separate court case, Jolly Roger. Which you're ignorant of.
[1 quoted line suppressed]
Nope, there were no criminal cases resulting from this performance
management feature which still exists in every iPhone sold today.
Heh heh heh... The French criminal case is well known, Jolly Roger.
It's no longer shocking how ignorant all you Apple religious zealots are.
Nope, untrue. Apple settles a lot of them amicably though - while
admitting no wrongdoing.
It's no longer shocking that you Apple religious zealots think paying over >> a billion dollars in penalties means Apple did nothing wrong, Jolly Roger. >>
If I was innocent of wrong doing and had all that money, I’d be paying lawyers to keep my name and reputation clean, rather than giving it to the government and looking guilty.
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
[a bunch of bullshit that doesn't prove his bullshit assertions]
If I was innocent of wrong doing and had all that money, I’d be paying lawyers to keep my name and reputation clean
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
If I was innocent of wrong doing and had all that money, I’d be paying >>> lawyers to keep my name and reputation clean, rather than giving it to the >>> government and looking guilty.
Remember civil suits in the US aren't about right or wrong, but about
persuasion. Can you persuade the jury/judge not to find against you?
Also fighting a court case is long-winded, expensive and completely outside >> of your control.
Paying off frivolous lawsuits is a running cost of large business in the
US.
You assume the cases against Apple are frivolous, because well, Apple can’t be doing anything unethical. As we have seen with the battery issue, Apple
is fully capable of being unethical and taking advantage of consumers. The consumer and tax payer is always the one getting screwed.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
If I was innocent of wrong doing and had all that money, I’d be
paying lawyers to keep my name and reputation clean, rather than
giving it to the government and looking guilty.
Remember civil suits in the US aren't about right or wrong, but about
persuasion. Can you persuade the jury/judge not to find against you?
Also fighting a court case is long-winded, expensive and completely
outside of your control.
Paying off frivolous lawsuits is a running cost of large business in
the US.
You assume the cases against Apple are frivolous
Apple can’t be doing anything unethical
As we have seen with the battery issue, Apple is fully capable of
being unethical and taking advantage of consumers. The consumer and
tax payer is always the one getting screwed.
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