• Laughably puny cheap iPhone batteries rumored to get slightly better wi

    From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 13 04:31:57 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Cheap crappy garbage-bin batteries are part of Apple's product strategy.
    But the EU is calling Apple out on that long-standing practice.

    There is no metric more important to battery lifetime than capacity.

    While most iPhones miserably fail EU conditions for lifetime performance,
    these newer iPhone 16 batteries just barely eke it out under the line!
    <https://9to5mac.com/2024/05/17/iphone-16-battery-density/>

    If it wasn't for the EU requirement, every iPhone would die long before
    they even got close to the EU deadline for how long a battery should last.

    Lifetime here means years, not a measly few hours (which zealots claim).

    While Apple has always deserved just derision for their bargain-basement
    cheap batteries which lack the capacity of its Android competitors, at
    least the most expensive iPhone will finally have a batter *almost* as big
    as my free Samsung Galaxy A32-5G has had since it was released in 2021.

    iPhone 15: 3,349 mAh ==> iPhone 16: 3,561 mAh (up 6.3%)
    iPhone 15 Plus: 4,383 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Plus: 4,006 mAh (down 8.6%)
    iPhone 15 Pro: 3,274 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Pro: 3,355 mAh (up 2.5%)
    iPhone 15 Pro Max: 4,422 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Pro Max: 4,676 mAh (up 5.7%)

    Source:
    <https://9to5mac.com/2024/07/12/iphone-16-new-features-worth-the-wait/>

    Given the uneducated Apple zealots will scream about a 2% efficiency boost
    in iPhone battery use, the triple-digit smaller percentages outweigh that.

    No unsupported and yet incredibly puny 2% increase in performance will fool
    the EU who is forcing Apple to either increase the lifetime of the
    batteries by not putting the cheap crap into the new iPhones, or for Apple
    to then comply with EU requirements for low-performing devices to be more easily repaired.

    It's Apple's choice:
    a. Continue to put cheap crap into the iPhone & be subject to EU rules,
    b. Or, squeak under the EU requirement line and not be subject to them.

    Cheap crappy garbage-bin batteries are part of Apple's product strategy.
    But the EU is calling Apple out on that long-standing practice.
    --
    If you're charging a phone every night, you're not using an Android phone.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andrew on Fri Jul 12 21:41:40 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2024-07-12 21:31, Andrew wrote:
    Cheap crappy garbage-bin batteries are part of Apple's product strategy.
    But the EU is calling Apple out on that long-standing practice.

    There is no metric more important to battery lifetime than capacity.

    False.

    Do you now know what "battery" means?


    While most iPhones miserably fail EU conditions for lifetime performance, these newer iPhone 16 batteries just barely eke it out under the line!
    <https://9to5mac.com/2024/05/17/iphone-16-battery-density/>

    If it wasn't for the EU requirement, every iPhone would die long before
    they even got close to the EU deadline for how long a battery should last.

    The EU rules are about user replacement...

    ...not capacity.

    Lifetime here means years, not a measly few hours (which zealots claim).

    While Apple has always deserved just derision for their bargain-basement cheap batteries which lack the capacity of its Android competitors, at
    least the most expensive iPhone will finally have a batter *almost* as big
    as my free Samsung Galaxy A32-5G has had since it was released in 2021.

    iPhone 15: 3,349 mAh ==> iPhone 16: 3,561 mAh (up 6.3%)
    iPhone 15 Plus: 4,383 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Plus: 4,006 mAh (down 8.6%)
    iPhone 15 Pro: 3,274 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Pro: 3,355 mAh (up 2.5%)
    iPhone 15 Pro Max: 4,422 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Pro Max: 4,676 mAh (up 5.7%)

    Source:
    <https://9to5mac.com/2024/07/12/iphone-16-new-features-worth-the-wait/>

    Given the uneducated Apple zealots will scream about a 2% efficiency boost
    in iPhone battery use, the triple-digit smaller percentages outweigh that.

    No unsupported and yet incredibly puny 2% increase in performance will fool the EU who is forcing Apple to either increase the lifetime of the
    batteries by not putting the cheap crap into the new iPhones, or for Apple
    to then comply with EU requirements for low-performing devices to be more easily repaired.

    It's Apple's choice:
    a. Continue to put cheap crap into the iPhone & be subject to EU rules,
    b. Or, squeak under the EU requirement line and not be subject to them.

    Cheap crappy garbage-bin batteries are part of Apple's product strategy.
    But the EU is calling Apple out on that long-standing practice.

    As usual, you misapprehend the relationship between battery capacity and battery lifetime.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Mon Jul 15 10:52:43 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2024-07-15 10:30, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/13/2024 12:31 AM, Andrew wrote:
    Cheap crappy garbage-bin batteries are part of Apple's product strategy.
    But the EU is calling Apple out on that long-standing practice.

    There is no metric more important to battery lifetime than capacity.

    While most iPhones miserably fail EU conditions for lifetime performance,
    these newer iPhone 16 batteries just barely eke it out under the line!
      <https://9to5mac.com/2024/05/17/iphone-16-battery-density/>

    If it wasn't for the EU requirement, every iPhone would die long before
    they even got close to the EU deadline for how long a battery should
    last.

    Lifetime here means years, not a measly few hours (which zealots claim).

    While Apple has always deserved just derision for their bargain-basement
    cheap batteries which lack the capacity of its Android competitors, at
    least the most expensive iPhone will finally have a batter *almost* as
    big
    as my free Samsung Galaxy A32-5G has had since it was released in 2021.

    iPhone 15: 3,349 mAh ==> iPhone 16: 3,561 mAh (up 6.3%)
    iPhone 15 Plus: 4,383 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Plus: 4,006 mAh (down 8.6%)
    iPhone 15 Pro: 3,274 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Pro: 3,355 mAh (up 2.5%)
    iPhone 15 Pro Max: 4,422 mAh ==> iPhone 16 Pro Max: 4,676 mAh (up 5.7%)

    Source:
      <https://9to5mac.com/2024/07/12/iphone-16-new-features-worth-the-wait/> >>
    Given the uneducated Apple zealots will scream about a 2% efficiency
    boost
    in iPhone battery use, the triple-digit smaller percentages outweigh
    that.

    No unsupported and yet incredibly puny 2% increase in performance will
    fool
    the EU who is forcing Apple to either increase the lifetime of the
    batteries by not putting the cheap crap into the new iPhones, or for
    Apple
    to then comply with EU requirements for low-performing devices to be more
    easily repaired.

    It's Apple's choice:
    a. Continue to put cheap crap into the iPhone & be subject to EU rules,
    b. Or, squeak under the EU requirement line and not be subject to them.

    Cheap crappy garbage-bin batteries are part of Apple's product strategy.
    But the EU is calling Apple out on that long-standing practice.

    FYI the Wife's 2 year old iPhone 14 charges to 97% of original capacity.
    That battery will easily outlive the phone.

    Careful, Arlen will tell you you're part of a cult.

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