badgolferman wrote on Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:41:02 -0000 (UTC) :
With Androids you have to set up the user first before doing anything.
Steve has mentioned how primitive the iPhone is for work environments.
The primitive toy iPhone doesn't have any fundamental capability to set up
a normally separate work & personal profile (enhances security & privacy).
Here's my free phone which is more capable than any toy iPhone ever sold.
<https://i.postimg.cc/TY04xZwF/work-user-profile.jpg>
With Androids you have to set up the user first before doing anything.
The primitive toy iPhone doesn't have any fundamental capability to set up >> a normally separate work & personal profile (enhances security & privacy).
Interestingly had a random discussion about this with my team last week and the android setup sounds like a nightmare. You have to download all apps
you need in both environments twice - wasting storage and any data limits - and configure them separately but then you don't get any notifications from the other profile when using your phone e.g. MFA or messages.
You're constantly having to remember to switch profile to ensure you get calendar or message notifications from the different profiles.
If you truly want a separation, it's better to get separate phones IYAM.
The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT >>>location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
shortcut too).
False.
When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
previous phone did not migrate over.
With Android, you save the homescreen on the old & load it back to
the new.
Then, EVERY app icon is on the new phone EXACTLY where it was on
the old.
Just like it is on an iPhone.
That is not my experience with any iPhone I've had, personal or
corporate. The apps get downloaded if they're still on the App Store,
but not in the same layout or folders they've been placed into.
One of the first things I do with a new phone is move most of the
preloaded Apple programs into an Unused folder, sometimes I even delete
them. Yet these always remain where they were when preloaded at the
factory. I also move other icons into folders so I can have more on
the Home page 1 screen. These do not get placed back in the same
folders.
While that's good advice, the point I was making was that iOS is designed
as a toy operating system which is incapable of doing what Android does.
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean it's automatically the
right thing to do.
To that end, Alan Baker is so ignorant about iOS that he is unaware
that if the app (or the exact version you liked) is no longer on the
App Store, then there is no way to install that app (or version) onto
your new device.
At one time iTunes allowed you to save and reinstall apps from your
phone regardless of whether they were still on App Store. Then they
took that capability away. I complained about it in the group and it
was nospam who directed me to an older version of iTunes which still
did that. I think iTunes also allowed you to rip songs from CDs and
put them on your phone. I have the installation program in my
Downloads folder but haven't had to use it yet. I really don't want to install that monstrosity which makes itself default for so many Windows
PC functions.
Andrew wrote:
To that end, Alan Baker is so ignorant about iOS that he is unaware
that if the app (or the exact version you liked) is no longer on the
App Store, then there is no way to install that app (or version) onto
your new device.
At one time iTunes allowed you to save and reinstall apps from your
phone regardless of whether they were still on App Store. Then they
took that capability away. I complained about it in the group and it
was nospam who directed me to an older version of iTunes which still
did that. I think iTunes also allowed you to rip songs from CDs and
put them on your phone. I have the installation program in my
Downloads folder but haven't had to use it yet. I really don't want
to install that monstrosity which makes itself default for so many
Windows PC functions.
You can still install apps that are no longer on the App Store with third-party tools like iMazing.
Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 18:54:26 GMT :
You can still install apps that are no longer on the App Store with
third-party tools like iMazing.
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed from
the App Store by the developer?
Jolly Roger wrote on 20 Jul 2024 00:16:19 GMT :
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed
from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to badgolferman
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed
from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to
badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on the App Store with tools like iMazing.
Jolly Roger wrote on 20 Jul 2024 03:07:21 GMT :
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed
from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to
badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on the App
Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger, without resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets that IPA from?
We're waiting...
Jolly Roger wrote on 20 Jul 2024 03:07:21 GMT :
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed
from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to
badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on the
App Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger, without resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets that IPA
from?
We're waiting...
On 2024-07-19 20:13, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 20 Jul 2024 03:07:21 GMT :
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed
from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to
badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on the
App Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger,
without resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets
that IPA from?
We're waiting...
By backing up your iOS device...
...with iMazing.
The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
shortcut too).
False.
When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
previous phone did not migrate over.
These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring your
data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and setting
up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former results in the
EXACT location of every folder and every app (and every widget &
shortcut too) being transferred to the new device. The latter naturally
does not.
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed
from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to
badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on the
App Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger, without
resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets that IPA
from?
We're waiting...
Not from the App Store, dumb ass - from my file server.
Your claim that I supposedly lied is bullshit, as is most of everything
else you write here.
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed >>>>>> from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to
badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on the
App Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger,
without resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets
that IPA from?
We're waiting...
By backing up your iOS device...
...with iMazing.
The dip shit really thought he had a "gotcha" here... He's *that* dumb.
Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
shortcut too).
False.
When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
previous phone did not migrate over.
These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring your
data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and setting
up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former results in the
EXACT location of every folder and every app (and every widget &
shortcut too) being transferred to the new device. The latter naturally
does not.
Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps, Jolly Roger, with
all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders & even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone as they were on the old phone.
I'll wait for you to tell us...
HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
It just works.
Jolly Roger wrote on 20 Jul 2024 16:03:10 GMT :
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was
removed from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore
to badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on
the App Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger,
without resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets
that IPA from?
We're waiting...
Not from the App Store, dumb ass - from my file server.
Your claim that I supposedly lied is bullshit, as is most of
everything else you write here.
Heh heh heh...
Jolly Roger wrote on 20 Jul 2024 16:04:16 GMT :
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was
removed from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore
to badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on
the App Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb
terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger,
without resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets
that IPA from?
We're waiting...
By backing up your iOS device...
...with iMazing.
The dip shit really thought he had a "gotcha" here... He's *that*
dumb.
Blah blah blah you zealots blah blah blah...
OK. Now that we've established how iOS does it, how do you think every
other operating system re-installs apps, Jolly Roger, including
Android?
On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT
location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget &
shortcut too).
False.
When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
previous phone did not migrate over.
These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring
your data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and
setting up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former
results in the EXACT location of every folder and every app (and
every widget & shortcut too) being transferred to the new device.
The latter naturally does not.
Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal
brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps,
Jolly Roger, with all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders &
even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone
as they were on the old phone.
I'll wait for you to tell us...
HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
It just works.
You can do exactly that with an iOS device.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the EXACT >>>>>>>> location of every folder and every app icon (and every widget & >>>>>>>> shortcut too).
False.
When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
previous phone did not migrate over.
These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between transferring
your data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to the new one and
setting up the phone as new and signing into iCloud. The former
results in the EXACT location of every folder and every app (and
every widget & shortcut too) being transferred to the new device.
The latter naturally does not.
Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal
brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps,
Jolly Roger, with all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders &
even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone
as they were on the old phone.
I'll wait for you to tell us...
HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no cloud).
It just works.
You can do exactly that with an iOS device.
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows more
about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the phone, the
IT technician did.
Alan wrote:
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims
he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the
phone, the IT technician did.
And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
She. Does that make a difference?
What I said remains to be true: You can install apps
that are no longer on the App Store on Apple devices with third-party
tools like iMazing. And it works great.
"You have to have backed up the app using iMazing *before* it
disappears from the App Store"
Duh. How else do you propose installing something that was removed >>>>>>> from the App Store by the developer?
Notice that Jolly Roger brazenly lied about IPA backup & restore to >>>>>> badgolferman
False. What I said is true: You can install apps that are not on the >>>>> App Store with tools like iMazing.
I know how brain dead iOS is since it's designed as a dumb terminal.
To prove the point, let's see if you can tell us, Jolly Roger, without >>>> resorting to brazen lies, *where* do you think iMazing gets that IPA
from?
We're waiting...
Not from the App Store, dumb ass - from my file server.
Your claim that I supposedly lied is bullshit, as is most of everything
else you write here.
Heh heh heh... now that we've established how brain dead iOS is for
re-installing existing IPAs that are no longer on the App Store...
... How do you think every other operating system re-installs apps, JR?
I'll wait for you to tell us...
When little Arlen can't dispute the FACTS, he giggles and deflects like
the man-child he truly is.
Jolly Roger wrote on 20 Jul 2024 20:24:38 GMT :
What I said remains to be true: You can install apps
that are no longer on the App Store on Apple devices with third-party
tools like iMazing. And it works great.
I agree with you, Jolly Roger, as I well know how primitive iOS is.
As I said, only iOS uses such a brain-dead restrictive backup/restore.
No other OS uses that Stone-Age dumb-terminal design - except Apple.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the >>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
She. Does that make a difference?
Yes.
As has been presented to you already:
'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
background so that you can start using your new device right away.
If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
them.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
required.
Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
I think I was there 15-20 minutes. That includes authenticating for
the MDM software and transfer of the phone number through VZW portal.
The required Microsoft apps were already preinstalled before I showed
up.
I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
phone. Considering this was a work phone, there was very little for it
to transfer since all mail is on the Microsoft Exchange servers and I
don't have personal apps or pictures on it.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the >>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
She. Does that make a difference?
Yes.
As has been presented to you already:
'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
background so that you can start using your new device right away.
If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
them.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
required.
Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like Jolly Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.
I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
phone.
badgolferman wrote on Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:36:54 -0000 (UTC) :
I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
phone.
Hi badgolferman,
My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is mired in the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as primitive as iOS is.
If you don't have access to the IPA on the App Store, you can't back it up.
Right down to the exact version (if that's what you want to transfer over).
If you can't back it up, you can't move it over to another dumb iPhone.
The zealots lied. You can't do it on iOS.
Yet, it works on every other operating system but the dumb-terminal iOS.
That was my main point about how poorly designed Stone-Age iOS truly is.
The rest of iOS backup/restore of your iPhone setup is just further detail.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20 14:38, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly
claims he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the >>>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
She. Does that make a difference?
Yes.
As has been presented to you already:
'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
background so that you can start using your new device right away.
If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
them.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
required.
Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like Jolly
Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.
Well thank you.
But you should consider be more forthright about things you're wrong about. >>
You said:
'I wanted to know what he found objectionable so those specific items
could be addressed. '
I provided those specific things...
...and you never replied on point.
I never said *I* would address them, because I donât have the technical knowledge. But they were addressed by others.
Alan wrote:
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the
phone, the IT technician did.
And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
She. Does that make a difference?
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20 09:46, Andrew wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 19 Jul 2024 19:06:21 GMT :
The primitive toy iPhone is incapable of migrating over the
EXACT location of every folder and every app icon (and every
widget & shortcut too).
False.
When I signed back into iCloud on my new iPhone the apps from the
previous phone did not migrate over.
These dingbat trolls don't know the difference between
transferring your data from the old phone (or a backup of it) to
the new one and setting up the phone as new and signing into
iCloud. The former results in the EXACT location of every folder
and every app (and every widget & shortcut too) being transferred
to the new device. The latter naturally does not.
Heh heh heh... Now that we've established how the dumb-terminal
brain-dead iOS does it, how do you think Android re-installs apps,
Jolly Roger, with all the app icons, widgets, homescreen folders &
even the data itself in EXACTLY the same locations on the new phone
as they were on the old phone.
I'll wait for you to tell us...
HINT: No need for the Internet (i.e., no Google, no login, no
cloud). It just works.
You can do exactly that with an iOS device.
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the
phone, the IT technician did.
badgolferman wrote on Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:36:54 -0000 (UTC) :
I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
phone.
Hi badgolferman,
My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is mired in the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as primitive as iOS is.
On 2024-07-20 14:36, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-20 14:23, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims
he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnât read the original message. I didnât migrate the >>>>>> phone, the IT technician did.
And he chose one method when he could have chosen another.
She. Does that make a difference?
Yes.
As has been presented to you already:
'Choose how you want to transfer your data.
If you download from iCloud, your apps and data download in the
background so that you can start using your new device right away.
If you transfer directly from your previous device, you'll need to
wait for the transfer to complete on both devices before you can use
them.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102659>
Note that if you choose the latter, you will wait for everything to
come over directly from your old iPhone, but no downloading is
required.
Now: how long did the technician have your iPhone?
I think I was there 15-20 minutes. That includes authenticating for
the MDM software and transfer of the phone number through VZW portal.
The required Microsoft apps were already preinstalled before I showed
up.
I mentioned earlier, the transfer method used was direct phone to
phone. Considering this was a work phone, there was very little for
it to transfer since all mail is on the Microsoft Exchange servers
and I don't have personal apps or pictures on it.
I think you'll find that the reason everything wasn't where you left
it was because this wasn't the standard Apple iOS migration, but
rather one mediated by your company's MDM software.
When you perform an ordinary iOS migration from an old device to a new
one, everything is right where you put it.
By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
Jolly Roger.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20 14:38, badgolferman wrote:
By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
Jolly Roger. It is far more pleasant conversing with you.
Well thank you.
But you should consider be more forthright about things you're wrong
about.
You said:
'I wanted to know what he found objectionable so those specific items
could be addressed. '
I provided those specific things...
...and you never replied on point.
I never said *I* would address them, because I donât have the
technical knowledge. But they were addressed by others.
My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is mired in >> the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as primitive as iOS is.
LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnąt read the original message. I didnąt migrate the
phone, the IT technician did.
Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone is
wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word) is
that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder and
every app to a new iPhone from an old
iPhone.
Ever the coward.
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on newer versions of Windows.
Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 03:59:13 GMT :
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnąt read the original message. I didnąt migrate the
phone, the IT technician did.
Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone is
wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word) is
that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder and
every app to a new iPhone from an old iPhone.
And yet, Jolly Roger just lied that magical IPAs appear out of thin
air.
Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
default.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of Windows.
Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 04:03:07 GMT :
My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is
mired in the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as
primitive as iOS is.
LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
default.
Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
Jolly Roger.
Heh heh heh... I'm happy to ruffle your cowardly feathers, little
troll boy.
Purposeful trolling.
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have never
heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims he knows
more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnąt read the original message. I didnąt migrate the
phone, the IT technician did.
Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone is
wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word) is
that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder and
every app to a new iPhone from an old iPhone.
And yet, Jolly Roger just lied that magical IPAs appear out of thin
air.
Nah, you are just trying to deflect and move the goal post.
Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
Projection from an Android zealot.
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
default.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of Windows.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of macOS. Big fucking deal. And again, people transfer
their data (including every app and the home screen layout) from their
old iPhones to their new iPhones every single day - which little Arlen
says is supposedly impossible, and you are here siding with him like a
good little sheep.
My main point is that Apple's IPA dumb-terminal backup/restore is
mired in the Stone Age in that no other operating system is as
primitive as iOS is.
LOL! Imagine saying this with a straight face... What a fucking fool.
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
default.
Laughably false, and you're desperately trying to deflect from the point which is that people transfer their data (including all of their apps
and their home screen layouts) from old iPhones to their new iPhones
every day - something you claim isn't possible.
Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
Projection from an Android zealot.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-21, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-20, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
By the way, I appreciate that you are not rude and obnoxious like
Jolly Roger.
Heh heh heh... I'm happy to ruffle your cowardly feathers, little
troll boy.
Purposeful trolling.
In reaction to your own and your idiot leader Arlen, yes. Can't take
your own medicine, little bot?
Finally you admit
Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 17:28:52 GMT :
Apparently little Arlen and his best buddy badgolferman have
never heard of Quick Start - yet little Arlen constantly claims
he knows more about Apple than anyone else.
Maybe you didnąt read the original message. I didnąt migrate the
phone, the IT technician did.
Maybe you don't understand that who happened to set up your iPhone
is wholly irrelevant to the discussion of whether you can transfer
everything over to a new iPhone. The FACT (Arlen loves that word)
is that you can indeed transfer the exact location of every folder
and every app to a new iPhone from an old iPhone.
And yet, Jolly Roger just lied that magical IPAs appear out of thin
air.
Nah, you are just trying to deflect and move the goal post.
Hi Jolly Roger,
I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups
Why do these Apple zealots feel desperate to brazenly lie
Projection from an Android zealot.
The fact
badgolferman wrote on Sun, 21 Jul 2024 09:54:39 -0000 (UTC) :
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by default. >>I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on newer >> versions of Windows.
I can discuss nuance of detail differently with you than with the zealots.
First, as rational intelligent well-informed adults, we should never
disagree with a fact - which is my main point with these religious zealots.
Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 20:13:02 GMT :
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
default.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of Windows.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of macOS. Big fucking deal. And again, people transfer
their data (including every app and the home screen layout) from
their old iPhones to their new iPhones every single day - which
little Arlen says is supposedly impossible, and you are here siding
with him like a good little sheep.
Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air
And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do
it.
Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 20:13:02 GMT :
Every operating system NOT Apple, saves the original installer by
default.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of Windows.
I have old installation programs which can no longer be installed on
newer versions of macOS. Big fucking deal. And again, people transfer
their data (including every app and the home screen layout) from their
old iPhones to their new iPhones every single day - which little Arlen
says is supposedly impossible, and you are here siding with him like a
good little sheep.
Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air, even when that IPA is
no longer on the App Store, and let's look at transferring data, shall we.
Let's not talk about the easy data, such as your contacts and your images, which even the brain dead primitive iOS has no problem copying from A to B.
Also, since most Apple users are iSheep, let's not worry about other data these ignorant Apple users store on the cloud such as calendar data.
Let's talk about all the data stored in all your apps, such as your map
apps (such as OSMAnd) and your system-wide firewall settings, shall we?
Oh wait, the primitive dumb-terminal brain-dead iOS can do firewalls; so let's just look at the third-party (non-Google, non-Apple) map apps.
Take OSMAnd and/or Avenza and/or OuterSpatial and/or MagicEarth, etc.
How do you bring over their data EXACTLY so that they're used the same?
On Android, you simply bring the portable sd storage card over.
Voila! All your data is EXACTLY where it was before on the old phone.
And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do it.
You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped you in the face, little
man-child.
Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air
Anyone reading this thread knows well I never said any such thing. You
and your little lap dog badgolferman may think telling brazen lies like
this will fool others, but you're only shredding your own credibility in
the eyes of others by doing so. You are both liars and neither of you
has any credibility. A habitual liar and his cowardly little lap dog is
what you are.
And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do
it.
I run my own servers, little Arlen. I have no need to use someone else's server for this. My IPAs could just as well be on my computer's hard
drive - I choose to store them on a file server instead because they are archives and take up valuable space (2.5 TB and growing).
Jolly Roger wrote on 21 Jul 2024 22:24:01 GMT :
Let's not belabor that Jolly Roger brazenly lied that iMazing had the
amazing power to create an old IPA out of thin air
Anyone reading this thread knows well I never said any such thing. You
and your little lap dog badgolferman may think telling brazen lies like
this will fool others, but you're only shredding your own credibility in
the eyes of others by doing so. You are both liars and neither of you
has any credibility. A habitual liar and his cowardly little lap dog is
what you are.
Heh heh heh ... so you agree that with iOS if the app that you want to migrate (or the version of that app) is no longer in the app store, then
the migration instantly fails. In other words, it just does not work.
Unlike with iOS, on every other operating system NOT Apple, it just works.
And you didn't have to store anything on someone else's server to do
it.
I run my own servers, little Arlen. I have no need to use someone else's
server for this. My IPAs could just as well be on my computer's hard
drive - I choose to store them on a file server instead because they are
archives and take up valuable space (2.5 TB and growing).
The fact remains only iOS is so brain dead primitive stuck in the stone age of computers that it's a dumb terminal that can't even migrate an IPA, JR.
Only with the primitive dumb-terminal iOS design, if that app (or version)
is no longer on the App Store, the migration fails - and you know this, JR.
I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups, one of which is to ...
Show the world? Pathologically delusional. You seem to think the world
is paying attention to CSMA.
I have two purposes on the Apple newsgroups, one of which is to ...
prove you're a moron who knows absolutely nothing that you're bleating
on about and because yo've got nothing actually useful to do.
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 28 Jul 2024 20:16:41 -0400 :
Show the world? Pathologically delusional. You seem to think the
world is paying attention to CSMA.
I think the problem with CSAM is simply that it hurts more than it
helps.
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