• Re: Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionali - copying - instead of inno

    From Tyrone@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Jun 12 13:05:35 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of
    innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple can't >>>>> innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these-apps-at-wwdc-2025/>

    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several apps at >>>>> WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe that offer
    similar functionality to existing third-party solutions. Examples
    mentioned include enhanced Spotlight replacing features of Raycast and >>>>> Launch Bar, Call Assist acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and
    Notes app for Apple Watch replacing various third-party note-taking
    apps on the watch.

    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple developers are >>>>> forced to copy existing functionality because htey can't innovate, but it >>>>> does provide more evidence that Apple long ago lost the ability to
    innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic functionality so that >>>>> the poor Apple customer is forced to figure out a way to buy it back. >>>>>
    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new emojis" too! >>>>
    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving them,
    and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of course, same
    is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
    from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Thu Jun 12 14:05:11 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-06-12, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of
    innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple can't >>>>>> innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these-apps-at-wwdc-2025/>

    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several apps at >>>>>> WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe that offer
    similar functionality to existing third-party solutions. Examples
    mentioned include enhanced Spotlight replacing features of Raycast and >>>>>> Launch Bar, Call Assist acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and >>>>>> Notes app for Apple Watch replacing various third-party note-taking >>>>>> apps on the watch.

    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple developers are >>>>>> forced to copy existing functionality because htey can't innovate, but it
    does provide more evidence that Apple long ago lost the ability to >>>>>> innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic functionality so that >>>>>> the poor Apple customer is forced to figure out a way to buy it back. >>>>>>
    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new emojis" too! >>>>>
    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving them, >>>> and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of course, same >>>> is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
    from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.

    Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox, fool.

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 12 15:05:14 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Jun 12, 2025 at 10:05:11 AM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of >>>>>>> innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple can't >>>>>>> innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these-apps-at-wwdc-2025/>

    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several apps at >>>>>>> WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe that offer
    similar functionality to existing third-party solutions. Examples >>>>>>> mentioned include enhanced Spotlight replacing features of Raycast and >>>>>>> Launch Bar, Call Assist acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and >>>>>>> Notes app for Apple Watch replacing various third-party note-taking >>>>>>> apps on the watch.

    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple developers are
    forced to copy existing functionality because htey can't innovate, but it
    does provide more evidence that Apple long ago lost the ability to >>>>>>> innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic functionality so that
    the poor Apple customer is forced to figure out a way to buy it back. >>>>>>>
    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new emojis" too! >>>>>>
    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving them, >>>>> and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of course, same >>>>> is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
    from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.

    Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox, fool.

    Then Microsoft did not steal anything from Apple either. Fool. Everything was "inspired by...". Right?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Thu Jun 12 09:06:55 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-06-12 08:05, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 10:05:11 AM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-12, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of >>>>>>>> innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple can't >>>>>>>> innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these-apps-at-wwdc-2025/>

    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several apps at
    WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe that offer
    similar functionality to existing third-party solutions. Examples >>>>>>>> mentioned include enhanced Spotlight replacing features of Raycast and >>>>>>>> Launch Bar, Call Assist acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and >>>>>>>> Notes app for Apple Watch replacing various third-party note-taking >>>>>>>> apps on the watch.

    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple developers are
    forced to copy existing functionality because htey can't innovate, but it
    does provide more evidence that Apple long ago lost the ability to >>>>>>>> innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic functionality so that
    the poor Apple customer is forced to figure out a way to buy it back. >>>>>>>>
    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new emojis" too!

    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving them, >>>>>> and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of course, same >>>>>> is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
    from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.

    Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox, fool.

    Then Microsoft did not steal anything from Apple either. Fool. Everything was
    "inspired by...". Right?

    Apple didn't steal, because its developers were already working on the
    idea BEFORE they Xerox PARC visit.

    AND Xerox received Apple stock in return for allowing the visit.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Thu Jun 12 09:05:40 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-06-12 06:05, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of
    innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple can't >>>>>> innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these-apps-at-wwdc-2025/>

    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several apps at >>>>>> WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe that offer
    similar functionality to existing third-party solutions. Examples
    mentioned include enhanced Spotlight replacing features of Raycast and >>>>>> Launch Bar, Call Assist acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and >>>>>> Notes app for Apple Watch replacing various third-party note-taking >>>>>> apps on the watch.

    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple developers are >>>>>> forced to copy existing functionality because htey can't innovate, but it
    does provide more evidence that Apple long ago lost the ability to >>>>>> innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic functionality so that >>>>>> the poor Apple customer is forced to figure out a way to buy it back. >>>>>>
    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new emojis" too! >>>>>
    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving them, >>>> and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of course, same >>>> is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
    from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.

    Nope. False.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Fri Jun 13 08:33:16 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-06-12 15:05:14 +0000, Tyrone said:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 10:05:11 AM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-12, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of >>>>>>>> innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple can't innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these-apps-at-wwdc-2025/>


    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several apps at
    WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe that >>>>>>>> offer similar functionality to existing third-party solutions. Examples
    mentioned include enhanced Spotlight replacing features of Raycast and >>>>>>>> Launch Bar, Call Assist acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and >>>>>>>> Notes app for Apple Watch replacing various third-party note-taking >>>>>>>> apps on the watch.

    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple developers >>>>>>>> are forced to copy existing functionality because htey can't innovate, >>>>>>>> but it does provide more evidence that Apple long ago lost the ability >>>>>>>> to innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic functionality so >>>>>>>> that the poor Apple customer is forced to figure out a way to buy it >>>>>>>> back.

    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new emojis" too!

    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving them, >>>>>> and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of course, same >>>>>> is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
    from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.

    Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox, fool.

    Then Microsoft did not steal anything from Apple either. Fool. Everything was
    "inspired by...". Right?

    Depends on which version of "history" you want to believe. Some places
    / people say Apple had permission to use Xerox Park's ideas, other say
    they didn't.

    Same with Windows, which although pushed by Apple's GUI, was actually
    based on someone elses's work, and again depending on which version of "history" you bleieve, was either bought up, stolen, or simply copied
    by Microsoft ... which is of course how Microsoft has done everything
    is has ever released (then completely screwed up).

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Your Name on Thu Jun 12 14:57:58 2025
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2025-06-12 13:33, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-06-12 15:05:14 +0000, Tyrone said:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 10:05:11 AM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> >> wrote:
    On 2025-06-12, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of >>>>>>>>> innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple >>>>>>>>> can't innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these- >>>>>>>>> apps-at-wwdc-2025/>

    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several >>>>>>>>> apps at WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and
    macOS Tahoe that offer similar functionality to existing third- >>>>>>>>> party solutions. Examples mentioned include enhanced Spotlight >>>>>>>>> replacing features of Raycast and Launch Bar, Call Assist
    acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and Notes app for Apple >>>>>>>>> Watch replacing various third-party note-taking apps on the watch. >>>>>>>>>
    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple
    developers are forced to copy existing functionality because >>>>>>>>> htey can't innovate, but it does provide more evidence that
    Apple long ago lost the ability to innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic
    functionality so that the poor Apple customer is forced to
    figure out a way to buy it back.

    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new
    emojis" too!

    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving >>>>>>> them, and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of
    course, same is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it >>>>>> from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.

    Apple didn't steal anything from Xerox, fool.

    Then Microsoft did not steal anything from Apple either.  Fool.
    Everything was
    "inspired by...". Right?

    Depends on which version of "history" you want to believe. Some places / people say Apple had permission to use Xerox Park's ideas, other say
    they didn't.

    There is no doubt: Apple did have permission.


    Same with Windows, which although pushed by Apple's GUI, was actually
    based on someone elses's work, and again depending on which version of "history" you bleieve, was either bought up, stolen, or simply copied by Microsoft ... which is of course how Microsoft has done everything is
    has ever released (then completely screwed up).

    Microsoft got a license to use SOME of Apple's GUI...

    ...and a judge misread what they were allowed to use because by the time
    it was adjudicated what Apple had created had become "obvious".

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Jun 12 18:16:29 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-06-12 13:27, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2025 at 8:34:24 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 22:46:24 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 6/11/2025 1:00 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-11 09:24, Marion wrote:
    Yet again - Apple sherlocks functionality - copying - instead of >>>>>>>> innovating which isn't a bad thing - it just proves that Apple can't >>>>>>>> innovate.

    *Apple sherlocked these apps at WWDC 2025*

    <https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/11/apple-sherlocked-these-apps-at-wwdc-2025/>

    MacRumors specifically talks about how Apple sherlocked several apps at
    WWDC 2025 by introducing new features in iOS 26 and macOS Tahoe that offer
    similar functionality to existing third-party solutions. Examples >>>>>>>> mentioned include enhanced Spotlight replacing features of Raycast and >>>>>>>> Launch Bar, Call Assist acting like Robokiller and Truecaller, and >>>>>>>> Notes app for Apple Watch replacing various third-party note-taking >>>>>>>> apps on the watch.

    I repeat that it's not necessarily a bad thing when Apple developers are
    forced to copy existing functionality because htey can't innovate, but it
    does provide more evidence that Apple long ago lost the ability to >>>>>>>> innovate.

    All Apple can do now to "innovate" is remove basic functionality so that
    the poor Apple customer is forced to figure out a way to buy it back. >>>>>>>>
    Oh, and Apple usually innovates a half dozen "exciting new emojis" too!

    Subsuming functionality that exists in third party apps isn't
    necessarily "sherlocking" them.

    Alan, Apple has been taking ideas from other companies, improving them, >>>>>> and making noise about their "innovation" for decades. Of course, same >>>>>> is true of Google!

    Bill Gates / Microsoft didn't even write DOS either. They bought it
    from a real developer named Tim Patterson.

    And stole the idea of Windows from ..

    .. Apple!

    And Apple stole it from Xerox.


    And Xerox just copies, well, everything...




    This is what matters.

    https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/ Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats

    Businesses and people who create useful things know what really works.


    Businesses know what's cheaper in the short term.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Jun 13 07:50:05 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-06-13 04:15, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    And Xerox just copies, well, everything...




    This is what matters.

    It was a joke...

    I know, but I responded to you because some of the others in this
    thread are, you know....

    ...aware that you're an asshole?

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Jun 13 20:50:11 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote at 20:00 this Thursday (GMT):
    [snip]
    And Xerox just copies, well, everything...


    Ha, good one :D
    --
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Jun 13 17:36:44 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-06-13 17:05, Chris wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote at 20:00 this Thursday (GMT):
    [snip]
    And Xerox just copies, well, everything...


    Ha, good one :D

    At last! Someone got it.


    Chris,

    Not replying to it doesn't mean people didn't get it.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Jun 19 15:27:51 2025
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-06-19 06:24, badgolferman wrote:
    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 6/13/2025 10:50 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-13 04:15, badgolferman wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    And Xerox just copies, well, everything...




    This is what matters.

    It was a joke...

    I know, but I responded to you because some of the others in this
    thread are, you know....

    ...aware that you're an asshole?

    For those who have not figured it out yet, Alan Baker resorts to
    name-calling when he has no honest answer.


    He is a troll who tries to incite reactions.


    I call 'em as I see 'em.

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