• Re: Arlen really is clueless: (was Re: More evidence low-IQ iKooks don'

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Sun Jul 24 23:47:42 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    sms wrote:

    Actually Arlen is half-right (or perhaps a quarter right).

    It's 100% correct.
    Facts are facts whether or not you _like_ those facts.

    You didn't understand what I said (because of your flat earth mentality).

    "Google can rapidly fix security flaws and make improvements,
    without needing to convince people to reboot their phones,
    or really know the update was installed at all.
    *They get security fixes constantly*, regardless of if the
    flaw is in the Messages app or the Phone app."

    *Apple Needs to Change How the iPhone Updates* Jul 26, 2021 í° <https://debugger.medium.com/apple-needs-to-change-how-the-iphone-updates-6c4b1659c740>

    It's no longer shocking how incredibly ignorant even Steve is, and Steve at least is smart enough to obtain a college degree (unlike all the iKooks)...

    "*iOS updates are monolithic*; the operating system must be updated
    all at once, and the phone restarted, rather than updating the
    individual apps that need fixing."

    The iKooks are much like flat earthers who can't imagine that iOS is
    monolithic - they're _desperate_ to claim that it's not what it is.

    "*This method of updating feels outdated* and doesn't make much sense
    in 2021; you wouldn't expect an update that adds new features or
    security to Slack's chat app to require a computer reboot, yet iOS
    requires this for every update to the core apps on your phone, and
    is likely why many people put off updating until they get tired of
    tapping the 'update later' button."

    It's not even difficult to understand - and yet - it's no longer shocking
    that the iKooks can't fathom that iOS is built solely as a monolithic OS.

    "The reality, however, is that Apple could make its customers' lives
    so much easier if it unbundled its operating system and made it
    more modular, *it's just choosing not to*."
    --
    If you're going to say all facts you don't like about Apple are wrong,
    much like flat earthers do about the earth, at least provide a URL
    that backs up your idiotic claims (which these iKooks can never do).

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Jul 25 00:48:30 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris wrote:

    It's not about size, but size does tell you that there are delta updates which is contrary to Arlen's assertion.

    The iKooks are much like flat earthers who can't imagine that iOS is
    monolithic - they're _desperate_ to claim that it's not what it is.

    *Why Apple should provide standalone updates for native iOS apps*
    9to5mac, Jan. 21st 2022
    <https://9to5mac.com/2022/01/21/heres-why-apple-should-provide-standalone-updates-for-native-ios-apps/>

    "the company sometimes fails to deliver bug fixes and security
    improvements as quickly as possible to its users because
    *it needs to update the entire system to fix those things*.
    It's past time for Apple to offer standalone updates
    for native iOS apps."

    The reason I'm (almost) never wrong, Chris, is because I'm not stupid.
    You? You are stupid. All iKooks have a low IQ. And no education.

    "If there were a way to update the native iOS apps separately,
    iPhone and iPad users could already download the latest version
    of Safari that is not vulnerable to the bug."

    All you iKooks are incredibly stupid.
    I've never _met_ people in my life as stupid as you iKooks are, in fact.

    You're _desperate_ to believe in a fantasy world, Chris.
    You don't own the IQ to NOT believe in a fantasy world, Chris.

    And Apple is perfectly happy to feed you whatever it is you want to believe.

    Why are iKooks like Chris so _desperate_ to claim iOS isn't what it is?
    I don't know why.

    I suspect these iKooks don't have the IQ to even understand what iOS is.
    They can only comprehend advertising on the Apple main web site.

    For iOS, if you need even a _single line of code_ to be updated, the
    _entire_ operating system has to be rebuilt back at the Apple factory.

    He's been banging on about this for years.

    Because it's a fact, Chris.
    *Apple's native apps need to finally break free from iOS updates*
    By David Price, Editor, Macworld, JUN 28, 2022
    <https://www.macworld.com/article/796615/standalone-native-app-updates-ios.html>

    I know you hate all facts about Apple.
    But the fact you hate all facts about Apple doesn't change the facts.

    *Apple Needs to Change How the iPhone Updates* Jul 26, 2021  <https://debugger.medium.com/apple-needs-to-change-how-the-iphone-updates-6c4b1659c740>

    It's demonstrably wrong.

    And yet, all the references prove me right.
    *What Are the Key Differences Between Cisco IOS and IOS-XE?*
    <https://www.packetcoders.io/what-are-the-key-differences-between-cisco-ios-and-ios-xe/>

    "*the entire IOS has to be upgraded, rather than individual components*
    resulting in disruption to the entire system
    (unless you have the expensive dual-supervisor hardware)."

    You claim to have a doctorate, Chris... and yet you can't find even
    a _single_ reference that backs up your strongly held claims. Why not?

    Why is it that every fact I claim is easily backed up in the references.
    And you can't find a single reference backing up your claims, Chris?
    --
    If you're going to say all facts you don't like about Apple are wrong,
    (much like flat earthers do about our geoid) at least provide a URL
    that backs up your idiotic claims (which these iKooks can never do).

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Bill W on Tue Jul 26 16:35:33 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps

    Bill W wrote:

    On Jul 22, 2022, Hank Rogers wrote (in article <news:ulFCK.588612$X_i.96107@fx18.iad>):

    For the record, a full update clocks in at nearly 5 times that size.

    He's psychotic. Too far gone to help. He will say it's another
    apple clusterfuck. He will dismiss you as an iKook.

    Neither of you understood what he said. It's not about size.

    The release mechanism for iOS is different than all other computer release mechanisms (which is not about size but what's in each release).

    It's no longer shocking that not only do iKooks know nothing about their operating system, but if you tell them any facts about it, they deny them!

    They deny them without even _understanding_ them!
    These utter idiots think it's all about file size because that's exactly
    what Apple fed them to believe - and yet - it has _nothing_ to do with
    that!

    It has all to do with Apple designed a monolithic operating system update mechanism which is downright primitive and has huge disadvantages for users (with concurrent cost-reduction advantages for Apple, of course, as usual).

    FACTS (for the permanent record & for future psychology research to ponder)

    1. These are four references which back up the assertion that iOS is
    not only _different_ from all modern operating systems, but the fact
    iOS is monolithic means there are huge disadvantages to the consumer
    (with concomitant huge advantages for the Apple mothership, of course).

    *Apple Needs to Change How the iPhone Updates* Jul 26, 2021
    <https://debugger.medium.com/apple-needs-to-change-how-the-iphone-updates-6c4b1659c740>
    "*iOS updates are monolithic*; the operating system
    must be updated all at once, and the phone restarted,
    rather than updating the individual apps that need fixing."

    *Apple's native apps need to finally break free from iOS updates*
    By David Price, Editor, Macworld, JUN 28, 2022
    <https://www.macworld.com/article/796615/standalone-native-app-updates-ios.html>
    "Updating your iPhone or iPad is like buying a newspaper.
    *It's a package deal: you either take it all or walk away*
    with nothing. Individual app updates in particular are
    perfectly suited to a pick-and-mix approach, but
    *that's not how iOS works*. If you want the Mail update,
    for example, you have to download iOS 16."

    *Why Apple should provide standalone updates for native iOS apps*
    9to5mac, Jan. 21st 2022
    <https://9to5mac.com/2022/01/21/heres-why-apple-should-provide-standalone-updates-for-native-ios-apps/>
    "*If there were a way to update the native iOS apps separately*,
    iPhone and iPad users could already download the latest version
    of Safari that is not vulnerable to the bug."

    *What Are the Key Differences Between Cisco IOS and IOS-XE?*
    <https://www.packetcoders.io/what-are-the-key-differences-between-cisco-ios-and-ios-xe/>
    "*the entire IOS has to be upgraded,*
    *rather than individual components*
    resulting in disruption to the entire system

    2. When informed of those facts, the iKooks flatly denied that these
    facts even existed (and yet, just as the earth is round, flatly denying
    facts doesn't change the facts that those facts are still facts.

    Why?
    I don't know why.

    I suspect by flatly denying all facts they don't like, the iKooks
    can maintain their completely imaginary belief systems intact.

    And yet, the fact remains that these iKooks brazenly and instantly
    claimed that all facts about Apple they don't like... are wrong.

    Without even _understanding_ them!

    3. Furthermore, much like flat earth proponents, the iKooks supplied
    nary a single reference to back up their claim that all facts about
    Apple they happen to hate, must be wrong.

    Hence, much like flat earthers still believe the earth not a sphere,
    these rather strange iKooks still believe iOS is not monolithic.

    Notice their belief system isn't backed up by even a single fact.
    Not even one.

    And yet, they _strongly_ believe in this imaginary belief system.

    Why do iKooks brazenly deny all facts about Apple they simply don't like?
    I don't know why.

    I suspect that facts instantly destroy the iKooks imaginary belief systems.

    But that alone doesn't explain why iKooks deny out of hand all facts about Apple they hate. However, what _does_ explain iKooks is when you compare
    them to flat earth proponents since there is essentially no distinction.

    Q: What do iKooks and flat earth proponents have in common?
    1. They all own a substandard IQ
    2. None of them have any education to speak of
    3. But most importantly, all have their ego deeply invested in a lie
    --
    REFERENCES:
    *Apple Needs to Change How the iPhone Updates* Jul 26, 2021
    <https://debugger.medium.com/apple-needs-to-change-how-the-iphone-updates-6c4b1659c740>

    "Google can rapidly fix security flaws and make improvements,
    without needing to convince people to reboot their phones,
    or really know the update was installed at all.
    *They get security fixes constantly*, regardless of if the
    flaw is in the Messages app or the Phone app."

    "*iOS updates are monolithic*; the operating system must be updated
    all at once, and the phone restarted, rather than updating the
    individual apps that need fixing."

    "*This method of updating feels outdated* and doesn't make much sense
    in 2021; you wouldn't expect an update that adds new features or
    security to Slack's chat app to require a computer reboot, yet iOS
    requires this for every update to the core apps on your phone, and
    is likely why many people put off updating until they get tired of
    tapping the 'update later' button."

    "The reality, however, is that Apple could make its customers' lives
    so much easier if it unbundled its operating system and made it
    more modular, *it's just choosing not to*."

    *Apple's native apps need to finally break free from iOS updates*
    By David Price, Editor, Macworld, JUN 28, 2022
    <https://www.macworld.com/article/796615/standalone-native-app-updates-ios.html>

    "At the moment, updating your iPhone or iPad is like buying a newspaper.
    It's a package deal: you either take it all or walk away with nothing."
    Individual app updates in particular are perfectly suited to a
    pick-and-mix approach, but *that's not how iOS works*. If you want
    the Mail update, for example, you have to download iOS 16."

    "Cut individual apps from the iOS apron strings and they can
    push updates as and when it suits them. Users get new features
    on a timely basis, Apple gets to take one more advantage
    away from Android"

    "*Apple's antiquated iOS update* policy is locking users
    out of crucial app updates.

    "Apple already makes some exceptions to the package approach.
    Security updates, for example, are considered too important to
    be kept from older devices, and we periodically report that
    Apple has released a patch for a previous version of macOS or iOS.
    The company recognizes that setting a blanket hardware compatibility
    requirement isn't fair or efficient for security - but there are
    many more cases where a piecemeal approach would help."

    *Why Apple should provide standalone updates for native iOS apps*
    9to5mac, Jan. 21st 2022
    <https://9to5mac.com/2022/01/21/heres-why-apple-should-provide-standalone-updates-for-native-ios-apps/>

    "the company sometimes fails to deliver bug fixes and security
    improvements as quickly as possible to its users because
    *it needs to update the entire system to fix those things*.
    It's past time for Apple to offer standalone updates
    for native iOS apps."

    "If there were a way to update the native iOS apps separately,
    iPhone and iPad users could already download the latest version
    of Safari that is not vulnerable to the bug."

    *What Are the Key Differences Between Cisco IOS and IOS-XE?*
    <https://www.packetcoders.io/what-are-the-key-differences-between-cisco-ios-and-ios-xe/>

    "*the entire IOS has to be upgraded, rather than individual components*
    resulting in disruption to the entire system (unless you have the
    expensive dual-supervisor hardware)."

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