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  • Re: narkive alternative to gaggle groups

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to bye-google@alphabet.com on Mon Dec 18 06:06:09 2023
    XPost: alt.culture.usenet, alt.free.newsservers, news.software.nntp
    XPost: news.software.readers

    In article <ba7454dba6429633599f0a260ae561f8@dizum.com>,
    Good Riddance <bye-google@alphabet.com> wrote: >https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com/

    google hates the trends not supporting their progressive goals.


    You misspelled regressive.

    You might consider dumping google android too.


    Nice!

    https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/

    google wants to get rid of groups and free speech on their platforms.
    Let's help them achieve that goal.


    I love alternatives.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Merry Christmas 2023 and Happy New year 2024 Beware https://mindspring.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Good Riddance@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 06:52:57 2023
    XPost: alt.culture.usenet, alt.free.newsservers, news.software.nntp
    XPost: news.software.readers

    https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com/

    google hates the trends not supporting their progressive goals.

    You might consider dumping google android too.

    https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/

    google wants to get rid of groups and free speech on their platforms.
    Let's help them achieve that goal.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Dec 18 10:33:27 2023
    XPost: alt.culture.usenet, alt.free.newsservers, news.software.nntp
    XPost: news.software.readers

    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote

    google wants to get rid of groups and free speech on their platforms.
    Let's help them achieve that goal.


    I love alternatives.

    Dave (The Doctor) knows all about what I say below, but others
    on the various newsgroups this is sent to may not know this yet.

    Known alternatives. (Please add more if you know more than I do.)
    <https://archive.org/details/usenet>
    <https://article.olduse.net/> (look up message-ID)
    <news://nntp.aioe.org/alt.free.newsservers>
    -----< replace c.m.a. below with your favorite newsgroup >-----
    <http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
    <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
    etc.

    I did not see the original article on c.m.a., but to add value,
    we've been well apprised of the situation since the Google spam
    on c.m.a. has been calculated at literally 99.5% lately.

    On the peering newsgroup, we've been discussing these issues with the
    news servers that peered with Google & by other means for a few weeks.
    *Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/_w1mbwzgzs0>

    Which is a followup to this original request for who is peering this spam:
    *Who is peering all these spams ostensibly from Google Groups?*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw>

    Which itself was followed up in a request for people to complain to Google:
    *Please complain to Google about their spamming of Usenet*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/xxniDVj3ArI>

    With respect to the narkives, I conversed with the admin over
    email and he kindly responded asking for help improving the
    narkive over on the peering newsgroup.

    The discussion should best be taken up there, but complaining
    alone won't solve the problem. You have to volunteer to help.
    --
    As always if you know more than I do on this, please add value.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Wally J on Mon Dec 18 17:39:03 2023
    XPost: alt.culture.usenet, alt.free.newsservers, news.software.nntp
    XPost: news.software.readers

    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 10:33:27 -0400
    Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote

    google wants to get rid of groups and free speech on their platforms. >>Let's help them achieve that goal.


    I love alternatives.

    Dave (The Doctor) knows all about what I say below, but others
    on the various newsgroups this is sent to may not know this yet.

    Known alternatives. (Please add more if you know more than I do.)
    <https://archive.org/details/usenet>
    <https://article.olduse.net/> (look up message-ID)
    <news://nntp.aioe.org/alt.free.newsservers>
    -----< replace c.m.a. below with your favorite newsgroup >-----

    <http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
    (Clearly GG is not the way forward!)

    <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
    There's an awful lot of threads about "Watch Fullmovie here!" on that feed

    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
    etc.
    I get 'cant connect' on my olde browser/OS


    I did not see the original article on c.m.a., but to add value,
    we've been well apprised of the situation since the Google spam
    on c.m.a. has been calculated at literally 99.5% lately.

    On the peering newsgroup, we've been discussing these issues with the
    news servers that peered with Google & by other means for a few weeks.
    *Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/_w1mbwzgzs0>

    Which is a followup to this original request for who is peering this spam:
    *Who is peering all these spams ostensibly from Google Groups?*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw>

    Which itself was followed up in a request for people to complain to Google:
    *Please complain to Google about their spamming of Usenet*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/xxniDVj3ArI>

    With respect to the narkives, I conversed with the admin over
    email and he kindly responded asking for help improving the
    narkive over on the peering newsgroup.

    Ah.


    The discussion should best be taken up there, but complaining
    alone won't solve the problem. You have to volunteer to help.
    --
    As always if you know more than I do on this, please add value.

    Probably not, but I'm chipping in anyhow.


    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Wally J on Tue Dec 19 15:56:09 2023
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers, news.software.nntp, news.software.readers

    Wally J wrote:

    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote

    google wants to get rid of groups and free speech on their platforms. >>>Let's help them achieve that goal.


    I love alternatives.

    Dave (The Doctor) knows all about what I say below, but others
    on the various newsgroups this is sent to may not know this yet.

    Known alternatives. (Please add more if you know more than I do.)
    <https://archive.org/details/usenet>
    <https://article.olduse.net/> (look up message-ID)
    <news://nntp.aioe.org/alt.free.newsservers>
    -----< replace c.m.a. below with your favorite newsgroup >-----
    <http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
    <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
    etc.

    Just to be clear about archives, www.novabbs.com is a web interface, but it is not meant to be a permanent archive. Articles will expire at 3 years, or 100,000 articles per group, whichever comes first. Some groups, like *.test groups, expire earlier.

    This will hopefully provide a decent history of articles, but they will eventually expire.

    --
    Retro Guy

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Retro Guy on Tue Dec 19 13:46:16 2023
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers, news.software.nntp, news.software.readers

    Retro Guy <retro.guy@rocksolidbbs.com> wrote

    Known alternatives. (Please add more if you know more than I do.)
    <https://archive.org/details/usenet>
    <https://article.olduse.net/> (look up message-ID)
    <news://nntp.aioe.org/alt.free.newsservers>
    -----< replace c.m.a. below with your favorite newsgroup >-----
    <http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
    <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
    etc.

    Just to be clear about archives, www.novabbs.com is a web interface,
    but it is not meant to be a permanent archive.

    Articles will expire at 3 years, or 100,000 articles per group,
    whichever comes first. Some groups, like *.test groups, expire earlier.

    This will hopefully provide a decent history of articles,
    but they will eventually expire.

    Hi Retro Guy,

    Thank you for adding value to the combined tribal knowledge, and for
    clarifying the role of novabbs in a short 3-year/100K archival.

    Here's a table for people to put into their Usenet notes file:
    a. DejaGoogle archives (no longer updated after February 2024)
    <http://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering>
    b. Davide Cavion's Narkive (WIP)
    <https://news.admin.peering.narkive.com>
    c. Retro Guy's NovaBBS/RockSolid archive
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=news.admin.peering>

    These are useful for those conscientious netizens who run a search before
    they post a question or they reference an existing answer - and it will be useful to forward (e.g., by email) a reference the non-Usenet citizen (like your mom) to a useful Usenet thread or article (which they can read without needing a newsreader or an account as it works on every platform browser).

    To continue to add useful on-topic value with every post, there's also the Message-ID archives (which most people know about, but perhaps not all).
    <https://article.olduse.net/>
    <http://al.howardknight.net>

    For example, one can look up an article if they have the message id, e.g.,
    Message-ID: <ulg14i$3o4hi$1@paganini.bofh.team>
    Message-ID: <2023121523452261422-loveshisspam@narkive.com>
    Message-ID: <245e50b032147b7bf2dc3fe5b2c1e048@news.novabbs.com>
    etc.

    Bear in mind that the dejagoogle archives removed the message-id from the header information years ago - but many of the other archives did not.
    --
    As always, please add value in every post so that everyone benefits.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sat Dec 23 08:50:27 2023
    XPost: alt.culture.usenet, alt.free.newsservers, news.software.nntp
    XPost: news.software.readers

    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 10:33:27 -0400, Wally J wrote:
    Known alternatives. (Please add more if you know more than I do.


    It's not a browseable archive, but when you have a
    message ID and want to find the article, it's a much
    friendlier interface than Google:

    http://al.howardknight.net/



    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA
    https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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