• Sound Recorder, great app

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 13 21:00:13 2024
    Referred on another forum to a great app.

    Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.

    Neither title nor description includes voice-activated but it has an
    advanced setting which is Skip Silence. I don't know yet if it works.

    But what makes it special is that it's free and it has free
    transcription, which so far, 25 seconds, works pretty well, even off the
    radio.

    I don't know if my doctor or Mr. or Mrs. Alito talks loud enough for it
    to be able to transcribe or me to be able to hear it, or not.

    AIUI, the microphone is usually, almways?, at the bottom, so position
    the phone upside down. Facing in/facing out??

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Jun 14 05:44:28 2024
  • From micky@21:1/5 to andrew@spam.net on Fri Jun 14 10:15:57 2024
  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Fri Jun 14 14:48:07 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:00:13 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    Referred on another forum to a great app.

    Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.

    My new favorite app has a premium option for 18 dollars a year, which if
    I used it more than 3 times a year might be worth it, that includes 6
    upgrades including stereo. How can a phone with one microphone record
    stereo?

    Do any phones have 2 microphones? Even if they did, how far apart
    could they be? Is that far enough to make a difference?


    Neither title nor description includes voice-activated but it has an
    advanced setting which is Skip Silence. I don't know yet if it works.

    But what makes it special is that it's free and it has free
    transcription, which so far, 25 seconds, works pretty well, even off the >radio.

    I don't know if my doctor or Mr. or Mrs. Alito talks loud enough for it
    to be able to transcribe or me to be able to hear it, or not.

    AIUI, the microphone is usually, almways?, at the bottom, so position
    the phone upside down. Facing in/facing out??

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Fri Jun 14 15:10:46 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:48:07 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:00:13 -0400, micky ><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    Referred on another forum to a great app.

    Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines.

    My new favorite app has a premium option for 18 dollars a year, which if
    I used it more than 3 times a year might be worth it, that includes 6 >upgrades including stereo. How can a phone with one microphone record >stereo?

    Do any phones have 2 microphones? Even if they did, how far apart
    could they be? Is that far enough to make a difference?

    Another interesting thing is found when I go to Settings / Advanced
    Settings.

    My low-end Samsung bought 5 years ago has the same two advanced settings
    but under Effects, has only
    Skip silence and
    Acoustic echo canceler.

    But my low-mid-price Xiaomi bought 3 years ago also has
    Automatic gain control and
    Background noise reduction.

    Both are set to device default and I guess the Samsung has no default at
    all, no circuit or software to do it.

    I used both to translate the same 30 seconds of radio. They played back
    with what sounded to me like the same volume, and the transcriptions
    were of very similar quality. Each made about 2 mistakes that the other
    did not make. Mistakes were always substantial, no tiny ones.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Jun 14 20:03:47 2024
    micky wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 10:15:57 -0400 :

    Which of them will transcribe what was said?

    Sigh. How many times do we have to answer the same questions for you?

    Seriously micky. I don't recall you ever asking a question which had not
    been asked and answered multiple times already on this newsgroup.

    Did you ever run a search first, in your entire life, micky?
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=transcribe>

    This is just one of many hits on this topic, micky.
    *Offline speech-to-text recorder/transcription unofficial*
    *Google Recorder APK port now available for many Android phones*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/_Amn35T16NA/>

    (See the op for deails about Sound Recorder.)

    Some of the hits are your own threads, micky, asking the same questions.

    *Voice Recorder app that will stop recording when it's quiet*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/F6TdYrIo_yM/>

    It wouldn't be so irksome if we hadn't spent a LOT of time helping you.
    But then you ignore all the help we gave you each time you ask anew.

    a. We give our heart and soul to help you, micky.
    b. And then you ignore every single thing we did
    c. Which wasted not only our time - but our good faith in humans too.

    Think about that please.

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 14 21:28:20 2024
    Andrew,

    Some sound recorder apps which are free & ad free that I've tested in the past.
    [snip list]

    Do us a favour, and check the permissions they request/require before you suggest them.

    The "avinash42.soundrecorder" and a few others request a minimum of them, others request a number that have zero to do with sound recording -
    including the AD_ID.

    IOW, you might not need to hand over money for them and/or look at ads, but some of them seem to try to monetize you in other ways. And not everyone
    likes that.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to R.Wieser on Fri Jun 14 20:13:51 2024
    R.Wieser wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 21:28:20 +0200 :

    Do us a favour, and check the permissions they request/require before you suggest them.

    Give me credit for responding based on person who is asking the question.
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=voice+recorder>

    An example is my response to someone like Andy Burns will be quite
    different than my response to someone like micky, who never searches before asking and who never puts useful information into his questions.

    It's not the first time micky has asked this question, you know.
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=transcribe>

    Some of those resulting threads are authored by micky himself, e.g.,
    *Voice Recorder app that will stop recording when it's quiet*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/F6TdYrIo_yM/>

    And it's not the first time micky asks us to figure out the app from the
    icon (which is simply ridiculous, mind you) such as when he describes it as "Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lines".

    Note that I've patiently explained to micky a thousand times how to find
    the unique package name of any app - and yet micky still describes an app
    by the color of its icon (particularly for a common app like a recorder).

    That's just three things which are absurd about micky's question, Rudy.

    Given I knew at least those three things that you didn't know, you have to start to begin to get an inkling of why I responded the way that I did.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to andrew@spam.net on Fri Jun 14 21:44:48 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 20:03:47 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

    micky wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 10:15:57 -0400 :

    Which of them will transcribe what was said?

    Sigh. How many times do we have to answer the same questions for you?

    Once. I've never asked that question before, and I've never seen 'apps
    that transcribe what they hear' discussed before.

    Seriously micky. I don't recall you ever asking a question which had not
    been asked and answered multiple times already on this newsgroup.

    I don't care what you recall. 90% or more of the readers here don't
    read every post. Many don't read this ng every day or every week or
    every month. Do you expect them or me to download and read the 1000's of
    posts they've missed before they ask a quesion.

    Of course questions have been asked before. I have 37,000 headers and
    that's just in the last 4 1/2 years. Many people are happy to answer questions that have been asked before. If you don't want to, don't.

    Did you ever run a search first, in your entire life, micky?
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/search?q=transcribe>

    You do realize, don't you, that the search you have here will return a
    hit if anyone in the whole thread used the word "transcribe" even once,
    no matter what the thread was about. Do you want me to wade through all
    those threads on the chance one will discuss what I'm interested in?

    2) Groups.google no longer records recent posts. 3) As I've just
    explained, the search you suggest will return most of its hits about
    other than sound recorders.

    My OP in this thread made clear the best thing about the app I told
    people about was that it transcribed. I didn't ask for any other
    suggested apps***, but you come back with a long list of voice recorder
    apps, probably none of which do trascrptions. If any do, you don't say
    which. How does your post help me? Do you want me to waste my time
    checking out a bunch of apps that don't do what I want when I alraady
    have one that does, and I didn't ask for another?

    ***(The only questions I asked were wther the mike was always at the
    bottom, and whether it's better to have the phone facing towards one's
    body or away.)

    This is just one of many hits on this topic, micky.
    *Offline speech-to-text recorder/transcription unofficial*
    *Google Recorder APK port now available for many Android phones* <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/_Amn35T16NA/>

    I looked at this just now because you posted it, But this does me no
    good because I don't work with APK's, and furthermore it doesn't offer information. It starts off with a question "Let us know if the Google
    Recorder APK port works on your Android 9 or 10 " by Arlen Holder. Just clicking on the link and reading the first 3 lines was a waste of my
    time.

    (See the op for deails about Sound Recorder.)

    Read Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesion War for details about
    that war.

    Some of the hits are your own threads, micky, asking the same questions.

    No, they are not. I've never before asked the two questions in the *** sentence above or the one in preceding post. You do realize, don't you,
    that the search you posted above will return a hit if anyone in the
    whole thread used the word "transcribe" even once, no matter what the
    thread was about.

    This reminds me of that traffic accident kerfuffle, when you couldn't understand that the total rate of traffic accidents said nothing of
    importance about the rate of accidents caused by cell phone usage.
    Similarly, the use of "transcribe" somewhere in a thread says nothing
    about whether I've asked even a related question, let alone the quesion
    you claimed.

    *Voice Recorder app that will stop recording when it's quiet* <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/F6TdYrIo_yM/>

    This is an different question entirely, about stopping when it's quiet,
    and

    It wouldn't be so irksome if we hadn't spent a LOT of time helping you.

    When was that? I remember having a long ridiculous conversation** with
    you but I don't remember getting any help.

    **that was something to do with traffic accidents so maybe it was not in
    CMA.

    But then you ignore all the help we gave you each time you ask anew.

    I don't ignore any of the help. Some posts are no help, but I usually
    thank people for them anyhow. Sometimes I don't reply and that's
    usually because I'm waiting until I've tried the best one or two
    suggestiosn in the thread, so I can give some real feedback, and then
    time passes.

    a. We give our heart and soul to help you, micky.

    LOL

    b. And then you ignore every single thing we did

    False.

    c. Which wasted not only our time - but our good faith in humans too.

    You shouldn't be overly influenced by your interaction with a single
    person.

    Think about that please.

    If you don't like my posts, don't reply to them.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to andrew@spam.net on Fri Jun 14 21:49:44 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 20:13:51 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:


    And it's not the first time micky asks us to figure out the app from the
    icon (which is simply ridiculous, mind you) such as when he describes it as >"Sound Recorder, the icon is a red square with white oscilloscope lin

    Can't you read? I didn't ask you to do anything. I told you about a
    great app, and in case you wanted to find it, I gave you the same
    information I was given to find it. It was enough for me, and it would
    have been enough for you if you'd tried. If you wanted to find it but
    it wasn't enough, you could have posted back and I would have tried to
    find another way. The link is the most obvious. Do you want me to find
    the link again and post it? Let me know, but either way, stop your bellyaching.

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 09:32:52 2024
    Andrew,

    Do us a favour, and check the permissions they request/require before you
    suggest them.

    Give me credit for responding based on person who is asking the question.

    To be crude about it :
    As he posted about 5 hours later, he didn't ask you for anything. And
    (again) looking at the OPs (initial) post that you responded too I do not
    see a question either. So, you're asking for credit on a basis that doesn't exist.

    But you missed the point : you posted a problematic list of apps, without
    even bothering to mention, *in a public newsgroup*.

    While your post might have been aimed at a specific person, *everybody* here
    is be able to read it - as my response to that list shows. You need to keep that in mind too. Not everybody here is aware of what "app permissions"
    are and what they mean to them.

    ... even when you yourself could not care less about your own* private data being taken or being tracked on every movement you make.

    * like your contacts list, which could easily contain persons which *do*
    care about it. Most people seem to forget that.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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