• Crazy Photo Name

    From croy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 09:32:48 2025
    My recent model Android phone usually names photos with a date time, like "20250126_115743", but there was one photo in a series that when I sent it
    via email to my desktop computer, came in with the name: "mrousavy-5722737825195822912.jpg". The photo displays fine, and even the
    exif info looks good, so I'm able to rename it and keep things logical.

    I have no idea what happened here... anybody?

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    croy

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to croy on Fri Jan 31 18:40:39 2025
    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
    My recent model Android phone usually names photos with a date time, like "20250126_115743", but there was one photo in a series that when I sent it via email to my desktop computer, came in with the name: "mrousavy-5722737825195822912.jpg". The photo displays fine, and even the exif info looks good, so I'm able to rename it and keep things logical.

    I have no idea what happened here... anybody?

    There's a person with that name/tag and he's involved in picture/
    camera stuff. He's on GitHub, X, YouTube, etc., is CEO of a company
    which makes apps, etc..

    <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22mrousavy%22>

    I don't know how to use (proper) wildcards/regular-expressions in a
    Google search, otherwise I could search on the format of the full
    filename.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to croy on Fri Jan 31 13:20:29 2025
    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

    My recent model Android phone usually names photos with a date time, like "20250126_115743", but there was one photo in a series that when I sent it via email to my desktop computer, came in with the name: "mrousavy-5722737825195822912.jpg". The photo displays fine, and even the exif info looks good, so I'm able to rename it and keep things logical.

    I have no idea what happened here... anybody?

    Look in the metadata (media information) of the image file. The Title
    field in the metadata can be different than the filename.

    Some programs will show the Title metadata in their titlebar instead of
    the filename. For example, I had to change VLC's "change title
    according to current media" advanced option from blank (which shows the
    Title from metadata) to $u to show the filename. $f would show the path
    and filename. I want VLC to show me the file being viewed, not some
    metadata inside the file.

    Does "send via e-mail" mean you attached the image file to an e-mail?
    Look in the raw source of the e-mail to look at the MIME delimiter line
    for where the attachment was placed into the message. All attachments
    (whether disposition inline or attached) embedded into a message are
    long encoded text strings with MIME delimiters.

    You did not mention which e-mail client you used to send or receive the attached image file. Outlook has always sucked for looking at the raw
    source of e-mails. When using its View Source option, you see only part
    of the body. The MIME parts are missing. If you open the message in
    its own window (double-click on it) and use File -> Info -> Properties,
    you can only see the Internet headers, and none of the body. In the
    past, I used Pocketknife Peek to see the actual raw source of an e-mail,
    but its last update was back in 2013, and the author abandoned it
    without ever modifying it to support 64-bit versions of Outlook. Other
    e-mail clients are far superior for looking at the ENTIRE raw source of
    an e-mail. For now, I use the webmail client to view source which
    includes headers and body.

    The MIME delimiter will look something like:

    ----boundary_1_a153ebce-f354-4c6e-a344-30faf53ac48e
    Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="DCSNSFRVBCV.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
    Content-Disposition: attachment

    The boundary line is also identified in a header. The name attribute is
    a hint only to what the receiving client should call the file when the
    user requests to extract the MIME part from the e-mail; however, the
    user can specify whatever path and filename they want on the extract. content-disposition is another hint as to whether the receiving client
    should present the attachment inside the body of the message, or as a
    link to the attachment, like a list or icon. Following is a blank line followed by the long encoded text string. ALL e-mail gets sent as text
    whether it was written in plain text, HTML, or contains binary content.

    You could check the name attribute in the MIME block to see what was
    specified at the time the file was inserted (attached) to the e-mail,
    but that won't tell you what you might have specified differently on extraction. The name attribute will be what you specified as the value
    when you attached the file, or what the sending mail client used if you
    didn't specify a filename (like the origin of the file you selected from
    a browse list).

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to croy on Fri Jan 31 19:22:56 2025
    croy wrote:

    My recent model Android phone usually names photos with a date time, like "20250126_115743", but there was one photo in a series that when I sent it via email to my desktop computer, came in with the name: "mrousavy-5722737825195822912.jpg". The photo displays fine, and even the exif info looks good, so I'm able to rename it and keep things logical.

    I have no idea what happened here... anybody?
    Not been browsing this chap's projects on github?

    <https://github.com/mrousavy>

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  • From croy@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sat Feb 1 10:14:06 2025
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 13:20:29 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Look in the metadata (media information) of the image file. The Title
    field in the metadata can be different than the filename.

    What's odd is that this photo was the third of five taken on that hike, and
    all 5 were sent as attachments to an email (gmail to a Thunderbird
    account). The other 4 had "normal" filenames.

    When I plug the phone into the desktop computer, I can't find that photo,
    but the other 4 are there.

    When I use "Gallery" on the phone, the photo shows up normally, but Gallery doesn't seem to display a filename.

    [big snip]

    I did search for "mrousavy-5722737825195822912.jpg" on the web, and found
    the Git hub page, but I don't know what to make of it.

    Something strange going on here!

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  • From croy@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sat Feb 1 10:04:23 2025
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 19:22:56 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Not been browsing this chap's projects on github?

    <https://github.com/mrousavy>

    Nope.

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    croy

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to croy on Sat Feb 1 19:23:10 2025
    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 13:20:29 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Look in the metadata (media information) of the image file. The Title >field in the metadata can be different than the filename.

    What's odd is that this photo was the third of five taken on that hike, and all 5 were sent as attachments to an email (gmail to a Thunderbird
    account). The other 4 had "normal" filenames.

    When I plug the phone into the desktop computer, I can't find that photo,
    but the other 4 are there.

    When I use "Gallery" on the phone, the photo shows up normally, but Gallery doesn't seem to display a filename.

    You do not say which (brand/model) phone or which 'Gallery' app.

    If a Samsung phone, then when you show the picture in the Samsung
    Gallery app with the white background and function-icons, tap the three-vertical-dots icon and tap 'Details'. That gives you the filename,
    the pathname and some other (EXIF) info (date/time, phone model, size, resolution, MP and shooting details).

    [...]

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  • From croy@21:1/5 to croy on Sat Feb 1 15:37:10 2025
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 09:32:48 -0800, croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

    My recent model Android phone usually names photos with a date time, like >"20250126_115743", but there was one photo in a series that when I sent it >via email to my desktop computer, came in with the name: >"mrousavy-5722737825195822912.jpg". The photo displays fine, and even the >exif info looks good, so I'm able to rename it and keep things logical.

    I have no idea what happened here... anybody?

    It turns out that the photo with the wacko name was "taken" by the plant identification app, "Seek". In testing a bit, any time I ask Seek to take
    a photo, it gets recorded with the "mrousavy*.jpg" type of filename. I'll
    have to snoop a bit more to see if this behavior can be made more logical.

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    croy

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to croy on Sat Feb 1 19:24:55 2025
    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

    My recent model Android phone usually names photos with a date time,
    like "20250126_115743", but there was one photo in a series that
    when I sent it via email to my desktop computer, came in with the
    name: "mrousavy-5722737825195822912.jpg". The photo displays fine,
    and even the exif info looks good, so I'm able to rename it and keep
    things logical.

    It turns out that the photo with the wacko name was "taken" by the plant identification app, "Seek". In testing a bit, any time I ask Seek to take
    a photo, it gets recorded with the "mrousavy*.jpg" type of filename. I'll have to snoop a bit more to see if this behavior can be made more logical.

    Without a URL to the Google Play Store app page, others have to guess
    which "seek" app you are using. Might it be the following one?

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.inaturalist.seek https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/seek_app

    I searched their forum on "mrous", and found:

    https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/android-removes-location-from-photo-taken-with-seek/46647

    The text "mrous" isn't there. However, hovering over the pic of leaves
    shows a popup saying "mrousavy<bunchOfnumbers>". You might want to ask
    there if the app is using libraries from:

    https://mrousavy.com/projects

    Or, why iNaturalist's Seek app defaults to "mrousavy*" filenames for
    saved pics.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to croy on Sun Feb 2 10:10:59 2025
    croy wrote:

    It turns out that the photo with the wacko name was "taken" by the plant identification app, "Seek".

    At a rough guess the plant app is using one of mrousavy's libraries,
    maybe camerakit-android?

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