• Re: Is anybody live here?

    From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Oleg Nazaroff on Thu Mar 13 09:40:03 2025
    On 2025-03-13 09:27, Oleg Nazaroff wrote:
    Hello, All.

    Are there any living people here? The last date that I see is 30.09.2023. Is Echo ragged or dead?

    Your system is not working correctly. This group has ample traffic.

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  • From Oleg Nazaroff@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 11:27:51 2025
    Hello, All.

    Are there any living people here? The last date that I see is 30.09.2023. Is Echo ragged or dead?

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Thu Mar 13 09:14:43 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 09:40:03 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :


    This group has ample traffic.

    +1. I'll agree with anyone who has a sensibly logical viewpoint.
    My recommendation for the OP is to check the automatic web-based archives.

    To always strive to add value, here are the web archives I'm aware of:
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
    <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/>
    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> proceed as guest

    Anyone know of other openly available web-searchable archives for this ng?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Oleg Nazaroff on Thu Mar 13 10:07:45 2025
    Oleg Nazaroff wrote:

    Are there any living people here? The last date that I see is 30.09.2023.
    You're missing 11,174 newer messages as seen from individual.net

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Oleg Nazaroff on Thu Mar 13 10:10:34 2025
    On 13.03.25 09:27, Oleg Nazaroff wrote:
    Hello, All.

    Are there any living people here? The last date that I see is 30.09.2023. Is Echo ragged or dead?

    At least a dozen threads in 25 alone.

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    Pls use a compliant Usenet-client.


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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Marion on Thu Mar 13 11:08:20 2025
    On 2025-03-13 10:14, Marion wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 09:40:03 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :


    This group has ample traffic.

    +1. I'll agree with anyone who has a sensibly logical viewpoint.
    My recommendation for the OP is to check the automatic web-based archives.

    From his address, he is accessing using a Fidonet <--> Usenet gateway.
    It is possible the gateway is not working properly.

    Interesting, Fidonet seems to be still active in Russia.

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  • From Oleg Nazaroff@21:1/5 to I just ordered a rescan on uplink a on Thu Mar 13 14:34:07 2025
    Hello, Carlos E.R..
    On 13.03.2025 11:08 you wrote:

    From his address, he is accessing using a Fidonet <--> Usenet gateway. It is possible the
    gateway is not working properly.

    I just ordered a rescan on uplink and found what I wrote above about 2023. But now I see messages and dialogs, hope there are no omissions.

    Interesting, Fidonet seems to be still active in Russia.

    Yes, that's true, but there are very few of us fossil mastodons left - for 72 nodes in Moscow, there are 2 new young ones in three years..
    However, we also actively use Android for this purpose - for example, I have two full-fledged CM nodes on Android.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Thu Mar 13 11:31:08 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:08:20 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :


    From his address, he is accessing using a Fidonet <--> Usenet gateway.
    It is possible the gateway is not working properly.

    Interesting, Fidonet seems to be still active in Russia.

    Thanks for looking at that information, which I presume you gathered from
    the OP's headers. I don't see any headers unless I go to the trouble to dig
    for them. I don't even see whom I'm responding to, unless I look at the attribution line that is auto generated by my 'newsreader' scripts.

    It's kind of why I respond to everyone by what value they write.
    I don't respond to them by who they are (so I'm egalitarian that way).

    Back to your point, I haven't heard of "Fidonet" in years myself.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet>
    "While the use of FidoNet has dropped dramatically compared
    with its use up to the mid-1990s, it is still used in many
    countries and especially Russia and former republics of the USSR"

    Since the OP asked about "Echo", I found this in that wiki article:
    "By far the most commonly used of these piggyback protocols
    was Echomail, public discussions similar to Usenet newsgroups
    in nature... Echomail was so popular that for many users,
    Echomail was the FidoNet."

    I never heard of "echomail" but it seems similar to Google Groups.

    Just as Google Groups stopped its gateway to Usenet, I suspect, based only
    on what the OP wrote, that FidoNet EchoMail stopped it's gateway also.

    Then again, maybe not as the OP seems to have posted to this newsgroup.
    Digging into the logs to find the OP's headers, I see the (reverse) path:
    !not-for-mail
    !fidogate
    !p700.f700.n50.z2.fidonet.org.ru
    !f128.n5075.z2.fidonet.org.ru
    !usenet.network

    So the only thing I can surmise from that PATH: is that the OP sent his
    message through "fidogate" from, apparently, as you surmised, Russia.

    I'm guessing now that "Fidogate" is a "FidoNet-to-Usenet gateway" and that
    "z2" indicates zone 2, which is typically associated with Russia
    "n50" is the network number.
    "f700" is the node number.
    "p700" is the point number.

    Same thing with "!f128.n5075.z2.fidonet.org.ru".

    Unless spoofed, the ".fidonet.org.ru" portion reinforces that this is
    likely a FidoNet address within the Russian domain.

    Thanks for pointing that out to us, as I don't usually look at headers.
    I generally only care about the gift of the body (not the wrapping paper).

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Marion on Thu Mar 13 12:45:55 2025
    On 2025-03-13 12:31, Marion wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:08:20 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :


     From his address, he is accessing using a Fidonet <--> Usenet
    gateway. It is possible the gateway is not working properly.

    Interesting, Fidonet seems to be still active in Russia.

    Thanks for looking at that information, which I presume you gathered from
    the OP's headers. I don't see any headers unless I go to the trouble to dig for them. I don't even see whom I'm responding to, unless I look at the attribution line that is auto generated by my 'newsreader' scripts.

    It's kind of why I respond to everyone by what value they write.
    I don't respond to them by who they are (so I'm egalitarian that way).

    Back to your point, I haven't heard of "Fidonet" in years myself. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet>

    I am very familiar with Fidonet, although I have not used it in more
    than two decades. My uplink machine died; there was an offer of another
    sysop, but his software was not compatible with mine.

    "While the use of FidoNet has dropped dramatically compared
     with its use up to the mid-1990s, it is still used in many  countries
    and especially Russia and former republics of the USSR"

    Since the OP asked about "Echo", I found this in that wiki article:
    "By far the most commonly used of these piggyback protocols  was
    Echomail, public discussions similar to Usenet newsgroups  in nature... Echomail was so popular that for many users,  Echomail was the FidoNet."

    I never heard of "echomail" but it seems similar to Google Groups.

    Yes. Always moderated, never anonymous.


    Just as Google Groups stopped its gateway to Usenet, I suspect, based only
    on what the OP wrote, that FidoNet EchoMail stopped it's gateway also.

    No, gateways are operated by volunteers. It is up to the sysop to have
    it active or not.

    ...

    Thanks for pointing that out to us, as I don't usually look at headers.
    I generally only care about the gift of the body (not the wrapping paper).

    It is important because it explains his question.


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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to Marion on Thu Mar 13 11:35:26 2025
    Marion <marion@facts.com> writes:

    Thanks for pointing that out to us, as I don't usually look at headers.
    I generally only care about the gift of the body (not the wrapping paper).

    Something odd happened when I first looked at the message, it said it
    was to a few newsgroups including politics.guns or something like
    that. So I set about filtering that group, but by then it had vanished.

    Or I could be going mad.

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  • From Oleg Nazaroff@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 16:46:26 2025
    Hello, Marion.
    On 13.03.2025 09:14 you wrote:

    +1. I'll agree with anyone who has a sensibly logical viewpoint. My recommendation for the OP
    is to check the automatic web-based archives.

    I don't think I have any reason to look for ng at all ;) There are two taps above - okay, no - she died so she died.

    To always strive to add value, here are the web archives I'm aware of: <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android> <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/> <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>
    proceed as guest Anyone know of other openly available web-searchable archives for this ng? ---
    tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-10.0-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686))
    Hamster/2.0.2.2 * Origin: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com (2:5075/128)

    I believe that there are very few of you who knows Android better than the back of their hand and at least use Android to read and write about Android and beyond? ;)

    And certainly even fewer of those who develop for Android. On Android also, nor Windows or Unix or on a computer in general.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Oleg Nazaroff on Thu Mar 13 15:59:53 2025
    Oleg Nazaroff wrote:

    certainly even fewer of those who develop for Android.

    It's not a very developer heavy group, some of us may have been
    developers in former lives, but not on Android ...

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to Oleg_Nazaroff@p700.f700.n50.z2.fido on Thu Mar 13 08:31:06 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:27:51 +0300, Oleg Nazaroff <Oleg_Nazaroff@p700.f700.n50.z2.fidonet.org.ru> wrote:

    Hello, All.

    Are there any living people here?


    Not me. I'm dead (or at least almost dead).

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  • From Oleg Nazaroff@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 10:36:00 2025
    Hello, Ivan Zelenyi.
    On 13.03.2025 19:56 you wrote:

    да , живые тут есть. я читаю эту группу через eternal-september nntp.

    Чего-то я сомневаюсь, что местные будут сильно рады кириллице тут ;))) для меня эта ньюс-группа - эха в фидо, а оно живо, что бы там не говорили ;)
    )

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