Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use use
wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't everyone
use that?
I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to data.Have you tried enabling
A while back I was sitting by a window and still could not download a
whole webpage on my phone.
Today, in a different location I was sitting by a window and again
couldn't download anything.
I turned off wifi and then everything worked.
Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use use
wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't everyone
use that?
But I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to data.
is that unreasonable?
What's going on here?
In the windowshade, for wifi it said Xfinity, but i'm not eligible for
that and even if I were, I hadn't put in the password. Is the phone so stupid that it counts that as having wifi?
A while back I was sitting by a window and still could not download
a whole webpage on my phone. Today, in a different location I was
sitting by a window and again couldn't download anything.
I turned off wifi and then everything worked.
Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use
use wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't
everyone use that?
But I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to
data. is that unreasonable? What's going on here?
A while back I was sitting by a window and still could not download a
whole webpage on my phone.
Today, in a different location I was sitting by a window and again
couldn't download anything.
I turned off wifi and then everything worked.
Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use use
wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't everyone
use that?
But I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to data.
is that unreasonable?
What's going on here?
In the windowshade, for wifi it said Xfinity, but i'm not eligible for
that and even if I were, I hadn't put in the password. Is the phone so stupid that it counts that as having wifi?
On 20/05/2025 22:24, micky wrote:
Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use use
wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't everyone
use that?
With my cellphone I use "costly" data only. I never even get close to
the 10GB limit (the minimum I can buy), as most of my browsing is done
at home on a laptop using wifi.
When I'm out and using the phone,
there's usually no wifi available anyway.
micky wrote:
I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to data.Have you tried enabling
Settings > Network & Internet > Adaptive Connectivity ?
There's WiFi and then there's Internet service. If your ISP fails (no >internet) your WiFi of course would still be working. And your phone
would have no ISP service even though still being connected to the WiFi.
I suppose it would depend on the phone whether it's smart enough to
switch back to the tower with no ISP service rather than just no WiFi.
It would appear that yours might not be smart(phone) enough.
Sorry, bad joke... :-/
On 2025-05-20 23:24, micky wrote:
A while back I was sitting by a window and still could not download a
whole webpage on my phone.
Today, in a different location I was sitting by a window and again
couldn't download anything.
I turned off wifi and then everything worked.
Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use use
wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't everyone
use that?
But I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to data.
is that unreasonable?
That's a costly choice, so it is manual.
People would assume that WiFi is working at home and do a big download,
and later have a surprise with the invoice.
What's going on here?
In the windowshade, for wifi it said Xfinity, but i'm not eligible for
that and even if I were, I hadn't put in the password. Is the phone so
stupid that it counts that as having wifi?
No, if there is no wifi for which you have credentials in the area, it
should use data.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
A while back I was sitting by a window and still could not download a
whole webpage on my phone.
Today, in a different location I was sitting by a window and again
couldn't download anything.
I turned off wifi and then everything worked.
Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use use
wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't everyone
use that?
But I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to data.
is that unreasonable?
That's normally a setting in your Wi-Fi connection settings. My
switching is turned off, because I have good Wi-Fi and don't want to
risk needlessly using expensive mobile data.
As you didn't mention your phone brand, model and Android version, we
can't really help you with specific settings/instructions.
As always: There is no such thing as standard Settings on an Android
phone, so don't assume, but specify.
What's going on here?
In the windowshade, for wifi it said Xfinity, but i'm not eligible for
that and even if I were, I hadn't put in the password. Is the phone so
stupid that it counts that as having wifi?
I don't know what you mean by "the windowshade", but if you mean the
(full) slide-down notification area, then if the Wi-Fi icon is labeled
with 'Xfinity', you *are* connected to a Wi-Fi access point with that >name/SSID, so you *had* put in the password at some time.
As to your question: No, your phone is not stupid, it just does what
you told it to do. See also AJL's response about Wi-Fi != Internet.
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 21 May 2025 10:53:58 +0200, "Carlos E.
R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-20 23:24, micky wrote:
What's going on here?
In the windowshade, for wifi it said Xfinity, but i'm not eligible for
that and even if I were, I hadn't put in the password. Is the phone so
stupid that it counts that as having wifi?
No, if there is no wifi for which you have credentials in the area, it
should use data.
I think they didn't allow for xfinity being all over the place, or I
saved it somehow even though I'd never connected to it.
On 2025-05-21 21:05, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 21 May 2025 10:53:58 +0200, "Carlos E.
R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-20 23:24, micky wrote:
...
What's going on here?
In the windowshade, for wifi it said Xfinity, but i'm not eligible for >>>> that and even if I were, I hadn't put in the password. Is the phone so >>>> stupid that it counts that as having wifi?
No, if there is no wifi for which you have credentials in the area, it
should use data.
I think they didn't allow for xfinity being all over the place, or I
saved it somehow even though I'd never connected to it.
I am not familiar with xfinity. What is it?
A while back I was sitting by a window and still could not download a
whole webpage on my phone.
Today, in a different location I was sitting by a window and again
couldn't download anything.
I turned off wifi and then everything worked.
Long ago I set the phone so that if there were wifi, it would use use
wifi instead of costly data. Who wouldn't want that? Doesn't everyone
use that?
But I assumed if there were no good wifi, it would switch back to data.
is that unreasonable?
What's going on here?
In the windowshade, for wifi it said Xfinity, but i'm not eligible for
that and even if I were, I hadn't put in the password. Is the phone so stupid that it counts that as having wifi?
That's a costly choice, so it is manual.
People would assume that WiFi is working at home and do a big download,
and later have a surprise with the invoice.
In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 22 May 2025 11:21:54 +0200, "Carlos E.
R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-21 21:05, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 21 May 2025 10:53:58 +0200, "Carlos E.
R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-20 23:24, micky wrote:
I think they didn't allow for xfinity being all over the place, or I
saved it somehow even though I'd never connected to it.
I am not familiar with xfinity. What is it?
Internet provider like verison. Owned by comcast fwiw. All of their
routers put out two channels, one for the subsciber and one for any
xfinity subscriber who happens to be nearby.
Early advertisign gave the
impression it was for anyone at all, and once I was halfway into a 2
hour trip when i realized I'd forgotten to take the address I was going
to. I stopped in some little town in front of some old houses and
without getting out of the car, used someone's internet. I thought it
was the signal for everyone but it was probably the unlocked signal for
the subscriber himself. But I got the address.
Internet provider like verison. Owned by comcast fwiw. All of their
routers put out two channels, one for the subsciber and one for any
xfinity subscriber who happens to be nearby.
Ah, yes. I know about that scheme, but not who does it.
That's normally a setting in your Wi-Fi connection settings. My
switching is turned off, because I have good Wi-Fi and don't want to
risk needlessly using expensive mobile data.
I can't even find the setting that says to use wifi if it's
available***, let alone the one to use data if wifi is not*****.
***It must be the default, because I've had this phone for years and it >always seemed to work well, at home or out.
*****I suppose I won't know for sure if this is also the default until I
try to use it will near an xfinity signal (and maybe it needs to be the >strongest signal?), but I'm pretty confident you guys solved my problem
for me.
However when there is poor Wi-Fi the result is often rather indeterminate.
On 5/22/25 11:42, Brian Gregory wrote:
However when there is poor Wi-Fi the result is often rather
indeterminate.
Sounds suspect...
Linux NetworkManager comes up with messages like "connected to LAN but
not to the internet" because the radio WAN supplying internet to the
router is temporarily dead. I've never seen similar on my phone,
something like "your router LAN is available as wifi and using but it's useless".
On 2025-05-23 15:00, bad sector wrote:
On 5/22/25 11:42, Brian Gregory wrote:
However when there is poor Wi-Fi the result is often rather
indeterminate.
Sounds suspect...
Linux NetworkManager comes up with messages like "connected to LAN but
not to the internet" because the radio WAN supplying internet to the
router is temporarily dead.
I've never seen similar on my phone,
something like "your router LAN is available as wifi and using but it's
useless".
I have seen it on my phone. Often it switches automatically to data >connection.
I see the message when telling my phone to connect to the wifi spot in
my camera. I have to insist that I do want to connect to that wifi
despite not having internet.
I do think they could have moved one line of code, > "If [connected to wifi]" and solved this
On 2025-05-23 15:00, bad sector wrote:
On 5/22/25 11:42, Brian Gregory wrote:
However when there is poor Wi-Fi the result is often rather
indeterminate.
Sounds suspect...
Linux NetworkManager comes up with messages like "connected to LAN but
not to the internet" because the radio WAN supplying internet to the
router is temporarily dead. I've never seen similar on my phone,
something like "your router LAN is available as wifi and using but
it's useless".
I have seen it on my phone. Often it switches automatically to data connection.
I see the message when telling my phone to connect to the wifi spot in
my camera. I have to insist that I do want to connect to that wifi
despite not having internet.
micky wrote:
I do think they could have moved one line of code, > "If [connected to wifi]" and solved this
The do detection via URLs such as
<http://connectivitycheck.android.com/
that should eliminate dead gateways and captive portals.
micky wrote:
I do think they could have moved one line of code, > "If [connected to
wifi]" and solved this
The do detection via URLs such as
<http://connectivitycheck.android.com/
that should eliminate dead gateways and captive portals.
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 23 May 2025 17:52:31 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
I do think they could have moved one line of code, > "If [connected to wifi]" and solved this
The do detection via URLs such as
<http://connectivitycheck.android.com/
They do, or Then do?
that should eliminate dead gateways and captive portals.
Words I don't understand, dead gateways and captive portals.
The link gave a 404, not found.
Gives me error 404 on laptop.
On 23/05/2025 22:26, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 23 May 2025 17:52:31 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
micky wrote:
I do think they could have moved one line of code, > "If [connected to wifi]" and solved this
The do detection via URLs such as
<http://connectivitycheck.android.com/
They do, or Then do?
they
that should eliminate dead gateways and captive portals.
Words I don't understand, dead gateways and captive portals.
example of a dead gateway would be a domestic wifi router which has its >xDSL/fibre/coax connection unplugged, perfectly good wifi to connect to,
but no connection to the outside world.
captive portal, would be "free" wifi in hotels/trains/shops that
requires registration via its own web page to actually use it.
The link gave a 404, not found.
any response is a response, in fact they may use
<http://connectivitycheck.android.com/generate_204> which gives a 204 >response.
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