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  • How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...

    From Mark Lawler@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 20 09:43:24 2022
    ...for them to be blocked from posting to this group? So tired of posts trying to sell medical books/journals.

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  • From Steven Hirsch@21:1/5 to Mark Lawler on Wed Jul 20 18:09:00 2022
    On 7/20/22 12:43, Mark Lawler wrote:
    ...for them to be blocked from posting to this group? So tired of posts trying to sell medical books/journals.

    This is a public Usenet newsgroup, not a web forum or moderated group. Not much can be done beyond tracking down the originating ISP and complaining directly to them.

    If you are reading this through a web gateway of some sort there's no point in complaining to that entity as they have no control over matters.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Steven Hirsch on Wed Jul 20 17:10:49 2022
    On 7/20/22 4:09 PM, Steven Hirsch wrote:
    This is a public Usenet newsgroup, not a web forum or moderated group.
    Not much can be done beyond tracking down the originating ISP and
    complaining directly to them.

    Responsible news masters / administrators of the posting host will care
    about their user(s) doing undesirable things. Some news masters are
    better than others. Some, you might as well spit into the wind.

    If you are reading this through a web gateway of some sort there's
    no point in complaining to that entity as they have no control over
    matters.

    One of the most prominent Usenet web UI providers is notorious for
    spewing spam and /could/ do more about their users if they wanted to.
    Well at least on the account level, independent of account churn.



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  • From mrgcms2001@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Wed Jul 20 20:37:06 2022
    On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 6:10:54 PM UTC-5, Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 7/20/22 4:09 PM, Steven Hirsch wrote:
    This is a public Usenet newsgroup, not a web forum or moderated group.
    Not much can be done beyond tracking down the originating ISP and complaining directly to them.
    Responsible news masters / administrators of the posting host will care
    about their user(s) doing undesirable things. Some news masters are
    better than others. Some, you might as well spit into the wind.
    If you are reading this through a web gateway of some sort there's
    no point in complaining to that entity as they have no control over matters.
    One of the most prominent Usenet web UI providers is notorious for
    spewing spam and /could/ do more about their users if they wanted to.
    Well at least on the account level, independent of account churn.



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    Grant. . . .
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    I've reported Mr Holt dozens of times -has no effect. I've given up now.

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to mrgcm...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 21 14:18:08 2022
    On 21/07/2022 13:37, mrgcm...@gmail.com wrote:

    I've reported Mr Holt dozens of times -has no effect. I've given up now.

    To Google? The website the spammer promotes is well represented on the
    Lumen database for DMCA complaints. Google is only going to care when
    it's a publisher doing the reporting.

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  • From Chris Syntichakis@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 21 00:02:33 2022
    Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce moderation , at least moderate posts of new members -so easy to ID the crap ,not that difficult (I am one of the mods of the µIEC group)

    cheers

    chris

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  • From John Galt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 21 08:40:35 2022
    you would have to contact the content moderator that created the group then if they changed the members settings you would see a "members" tab on the left side of the screen where conversations are.
    from there you could click a member and ban them.

    other google groups have this setting enabled allowing for members to boot spam posting. there are a bunch of greyed out icons which the content manager has locked in this group as they wanted it to be a completely open conversation area however once the
    spammers come in you can't get rid of them without some locking down of the conversations by the moderator.

    its frustrating and kills these groups off.

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  • From Mark Lawler@21:1/5 to csyn...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 21 08:30:04 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:02:34 AM UTC-7, csyn...@gmail.com wrote:
    Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce moderation , at least moderate posts of new members -so easy to ID the crap ,not that difficult (I am one of the mods of the µIEC group)

    cheers

    chris

    Yes! Thanks Chris. So who are the moderators for this group? If we don't have moderators who are active in this group, how do we change that to add additional moderators who are active members of this group?

    Thanks,
    -Mark

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  • From Randy McLaughlin@21:1/5 to John Galt on Thu Jul 21 08:48:48 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 8:40:36 AM UTC-7, John Galt wrote:
    you would have to contact the content moderator that created the group then if they changed the members settings you would see a "members" tab on the left side of the screen where conversations are.
    from there you could click a member and ban them.

    other google groups have this setting enabled allowing for members to boot spam posting. there are a bunch of greyed out icons which the content manager has locked in this group as they wanted it to be a completely open conversation area however once
    the spammers come in you can't get rid of them without some locking down of the conversations by the moderator.

    its frustrating and kills these groups off.
    This is an early usenet group pre-dating google groups.

    I doubt there ever was a moderator, I wouldn't be surprised if a google employee just mapped this and many other usenet groups in.


    Randy

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  • From John Galt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 21 11:45:02 2022
    could always create a new group and migrate...

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Chris Syntichakis on Thu Jul 21 16:52:52 2022
    On 7/21/22 1:02 AM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:
    Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce
    moderation

    This is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet with a Google Groups
    interface thereto. This is NOT a normal Google Group.

    Moderation is not /really/ a thing on Usenet. Sure, there is something
    that calls itself moderation, but it's easy to circumvent.



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  • From Alan Laughton@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Fri Jul 22 10:16:35 2022
    On 22/07/2022 8:52 am, Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 7/21/22 1:02 AM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:
    Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce
    moderation

    This is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet with a Google Groups
    interface thereto.  This is NOT a normal Google Group.

    Moderation is not /really/ a thing on Usenet.  Sure, there is something
    that calls itself moderation, but it's easy to circumvent.



    As Grant said, this is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet and not
    controlled by anyone including Google. I pick up this newsgroup via nntp.aioe.org using Thunderbird and when this crap/scam post appear I'm fortunate that my keyboard has a DELETE key, I just tap that, gone.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Alan Laughton on Thu Jul 21 19:13:37 2022
    On 7/21/22 6:16 PM, Alan Laughton wrote:
    As Grant said, this is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet and not
    controlled by anyone including Google.  I pick up this newsgroup via nntp.aioe.org using Thunderbird and when this crap/scam post appear I'm fortunate that my keyboard has a DELETE key, I just tap that, gone.

    I pick up this newsgroup on my personal archive server, where I have
    filters in place to block a lot of the articles.

    I actively try to filter a lot of crap from my personal archive server.

    N.B. I have no such filters on my personal transit server that peers
    with 30 other Usenet servers.



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  • From emilsarlija@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 22 18:34:10 2022
    This bellend's email is pubicly displayed so, if there's nothing we can do to stop him, we can at least return the favour by all spamming his email account. Think of the fun to be had!

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  • From Randy McLaughlin@21:1/5 to emils...@gmail.com on Fri Jul 22 19:12:26 2022
    On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 8:34:11 PM UTC-5, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
    This bellend's email is pubicly displayed so, if there's nothing we can do to stop him, we can at least return the favour by all spamming his email account. Think of the fun to be had!

    Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.

    For me it's not so bad. I intend to ignore it until it drives me to contacting his ISP.


    Randy

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  • From emilsarlija@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Randy McLaughlin on Fri Jul 22 19:32:23 2022
    On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:

    Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.

    Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)

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  • From jon_bradbury@icloud.com@21:1/5 to emils...@gmail.com on Wed Aug 31 07:52:43 2022
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:

    Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
    Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)

    He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to jon_br...@icloud.com on Thu Sep 1 11:52:40 2022
    On 1/09/2022 12:52 am, jon_br...@icloud.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:

    Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
    Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)

    He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.

    It's possible there's nobody to read the inbox but one can live in
    hope. For sure whoever is behind it is living in hope of making
    easy money. That too, is also doubtful.

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  • From Randy McLaughlin@21:1/5 to dxforth on Thu Sep 1 09:57:56 2022
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:52:43 PM UTC-5, dxforth wrote:
    On 1/09/2022 12:52 am, jon_br...@icloud.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:

    Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
    Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)

    He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.

    It's possible there's nobody to read the inbox but one can live in
    hope. For sure whoever is behind it is living iin hope of making
    easy money. That too, is also doubtful.


    This is a usenet group passing through Google groups. It hugely predates Google groups. There is no moderation and no one is in charge.

    Complain all you want no one can stop you just as no one can stop anyone.


    Randy

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to Randy McLaughlin on Fri Sep 2 16:10:43 2022
    On 2/09/2022 2:57 am, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:52:43 PM UTC-5, dxforth wrote:
    On 1/09/2022 12:52 am, jon_br...@icloud.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:

    Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
    Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)

    He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.

    It's possible there's nobody to read the inbox but one can live in
    hope. For sure whoever is behind it is living iin hope of making
    easy money. That too, is also doubtful.


    This is a usenet group passing through Google groups. It hugely predates Google groups. There is no moderation and no one is in charge.

    Complain all you want no one can stop you just as no one can stop anyone.

    Your post suggests otherwise.

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