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    From Jim Haug@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 1 16:22:30 2022
    I saw in some old conversations that people were interested in the CP/M editor MINCE. After considerable hunting I found it at

    http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/rlee/index_dirHTML.html#IDU-UNICORN-MINCE_SCRABBLE-

    I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at

    https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince

    It took me a bit to sort it out. The config settings for a VT100 terminal were incorrect, and it took a few tries to sort it out

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  • From Lars Brinkhoff@21:1/5 to Jim Haug on Mon May 2 06:02:44 2022
    Jim Haug wrote:
    I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince

    As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there.

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  • From Jim Haug@21:1/5 to Lars Brinkhoff on Mon May 2 22:40:08 2022
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-6, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
    Jim Haug wrote:
    I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince
    As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there.

    Ah, I think you’re right. Looking through the a makefile it looks like it’s for modern machines. Well, the old manuals are handy at least

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  • From curt mayer@21:1/5 to Jim Haug on Mon May 29 22:14:18 2023
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 10:40:09 PM UTC-7, Jim Haug wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-6, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
    Jim Haug wrote:
    I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince
    As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there.
    Ah, I think you’re right. Looking through the a makefile it looks like it’s for modern machines. Well, the old manuals are handy at least

    i've been looking for this for ages. it's the MINCE oem kit, which allowed the user to customize key bindings, write new functions, etc,
    in BDS C and generate a new mince. it supplied a lot, but not the whole editor.

    --curt

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?SGFucy3DhWtlIEx1bmQ=?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 31 03:09:38 2023
    tisdag 30 maj 2023 kl. 07:14:19 UTC+2 skrev curt mayer:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 10:40:09 PM UTC-7, Jim Haug wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-6, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
    Jim Haug wrote:
    I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince
    As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there.
    Ah, I think you’re right. Looking through the a makefile it looks like it’s for modern machines. Well, the old manuals are handy at least
    i've been looking for this for ages. it's the MINCE oem kit, which allowed the user to customize key bindings, write new functions, etc,
    in BDS C and generate a new mince. it supplied a lot, but not the whole editor.

    --curt

    I do have the source to the Mince editor, not the original source but ported to the Whitesmiths
    C compiler. I have however not published this source code as MOTU (Mark Of The Unicorn)
    did not want me to do that (at least not yet).

    See mail below:

    Subject: Re: Very old Mince software from Mark of the Unicorn
    From: Jim Cooper <jim@motu.com>
    Date: 2020-07-29 01:58
    To: hans.ake.lund@gmail.com
    CC: MOTU Customer Service <customerservice@motu.com>, Tina Hanlon <tina@motu.com>
    Hello Hans-Åke,
    Thank you for reaching out about this. Yes, that Mince source code is ours. We think about
    releasing it from time to time, but for now, please do not do so. We will let you know if and when
    we may decide to release it.
    Thanks for your understanding.
    Best, --J
    --
    Jim Cooper
    Director of Marketing
    MOTU, Inc.
    1280 Massachusetts Ave.
    Cambridge, MA 02138
    Office: 617.576.2760
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    From: <general_contact@motu.com>
    Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:48 AM
    Subject: Very old Mince software from Mark of the Unicorn
    To: <customerservice@motu.com>
    1 of 3
    2020-07-29 09:58Re: Very old Mince software from Mark of the U...
    Date: 28th July 2020 10:48
    First Name: Hans-Ake
    Last Name: Lund
    Email address:
    hans.ake.lund@gmail.com
    Subject: Very old Mince software from Mark of the Unicorn

    Hi,
    When cleaning out some boxes in my basement I found a diskette with
    source code to the Mince editor, it has a copyright notice:
    "Copyright (C) 1981 by Mark of the Unicorn Inc."
    I have no idea how this diskette ended up in my basement
    but I was extensively using Mince while working with developing C code
    at Unisoft AB which was a subcontractor to Whitesmiths Ltd at the time.
    It seems the the Mince source code on the diskette is modified to be
    used with the Whitesmiths C compiler.
    It seems that the origin of MOTU is Mark of the Unicorn Inc. at least
    according to this link: http://www.scrounge.org/unicorn.htm
    After some fixes to the source code I can run Mince on a 64 bit Linux
    machine and it seems to work just as intended. (Attaching the code as
    a .tar file.)
    My question to you is: who owns the copyright to this program now?
    Could it be possible to publish the code as open source as a
    historical artifact from the development of microcomputer software?

    Best regards
    Hans-Åke Lund

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