I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the
ones I have looked at have had problems.
Am 10.04.2024 schrieb candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the
ones I have looked at have had problems.
Please specify notification.
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:30:11 +0000, candycanearter07 wrote:
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
I'm happy with Sylpheed (https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/)
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
On 2024-04-10 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
Thunderbird is probably the most complete one, followed by Evolution and Kmail.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-04-10 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
Thunderbird is probably the most complete one, followed by Evolution and
Kmail.
Yikes, I found both Thunderbird and Evolution excruciatingly
bloated and over-complicated, so I'd better stay well away from
"Kmail". Those do both attempt accurate HTML rendering though,
unlike clients I prefer such as Sylpheed and Alpine that roughly
(but often very servicably) render HTML as plain text. That
contributes a fair bit to their complexity, but hardly excuses how
unfriendly they can be to configure, or to fix when they break.
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
On 2024-04-10, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
I like "aerc". https://aerc-mail.org/
Happy Hacking
ReK2
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
I use mutt. Simple and it does the job.
I'm happy with Sylpheed (https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/)
This is perfect! Thanks!
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Sylpheed (https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/)
This is perfect! Thanks!
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
https://www.claws-mail.org/features.php
Yrrah
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-04-10 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
Thunderbird is probably the most complete one, followed by Evolution and
Kmail.
Yikes, I found both Thunderbird and Evolution excruciatingly
bloated and over-complicated, so I'd better stay well away from
"Kmail". Those do both attempt accurate HTML rendering though,
unlike clients I prefer such as Sylpheed and Alpine that roughly
(but often very servicably) render HTML as plain text. That
contributes a fair bit to their complexity, but hardly excuses how
unfriendly they can be to configure, or to fix when they break.
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:40:12 +0000, candycanearter07 wrote:
Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote at 13:12 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Sylpheed (https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/)
This is perfect! Thanks!
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
https://www.claws-mail.org/features.php
Yrrah
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course, I'm
having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs work..
I never tried /direct/ access to gmail through sylpheed. I run my own (internal) email server (an instance of sendmail), and use fetchmail (http://fetchmail.berlios.de) to pull down mail routed to my gmail account.
Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote at 13:12 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Sylpheed (https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/)
This is perfect! Thanks!
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
https://www.claws-mail.org/features.php
Yrrah
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course, I'm having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs work..
LucLan <address@is.invalid> wrote:I use tbird. It announces mail with a sound I ripped off a MMPORPG, for 'teleportation'
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
I use mutt. Simple and it does the job.
The OP also wants a notification also :)
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course, I'm having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs work..
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course, I'm
having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs work..
It's complicated, but that's data thief Google's fault.
https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Oauth2
BTW, I don't use GMail (fortunately), so I can't try it.
Yrrah
Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote at 18:16 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course, I'm
having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs work..
It's complicated, but that's data thief Google's fault.
https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Oauth2
BTW, I don't use GMail (fortunately), so I can't try it.
Yrrah
mm
What's weird is that two of my accounts are working, but the others
just aren't..
On 2024-04-12 02:40, candycanearter07 wrote:
Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote at 18:16 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course, I'm >>>> having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs work..
It's complicated, but that's data thief Google's fault.
https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Oauth2
BTW, I don't use GMail (fortunately), so I can't try it.
Yrrah
mm
What's weird is that two of my accounts are working, but the others
just aren't..
Normal gmail needs Oauth2.
Gmail for enterprises or groups may or many not require it: it is up to
the administrators to decide.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-04-10 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
Thunderbird is probably the most complete one, followed by Evolution and
Kmail.
Yikes, I found both Thunderbird and Evolution excruciatingly
bloated and over-complicated, so I'd better stay well away from
"Kmail". Those do both attempt accurate HTML rendering though,
unlike clients I prefer such as Sylpheed and Alpine that roughly
(but often very servicably) render HTML as plain text. That
contributes a fair bit to their complexity, but hardly excuses how
unfriendly they can be to configure, or to fix when they break.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote at 02:53 this Friday (GMT):
On 2024-04-12 02:40, candycanearter07 wrote:
Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote at 18:16 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course, I'm >>>>> having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs work..
It's complicated, but that's data thief Google's fault.
https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Oauth2
BTW, I don't use GMail (fortunately), so I can't try it.
Yrrah
mm
What's weird is that two of my accounts are working, but the others
just aren't..
Normal gmail needs Oauth2.
Gmail for enterprises or groups may or many not require it: it is up to
the administrators to decide.
They shouldn't be enterprise accts tho.. and it's erroring with
incorrect auth despite me putting it in correctly.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-04-10 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
Thunderbird is probably the most complete one, followed by Evolution and
Kmail.
Yikes, I found both Thunderbird and Evolution excruciatingly
bloated and over-complicated, so I'd better stay well away from
"Kmail". Those do both attempt accurate HTML rendering though,
unlike clients I prefer such as Sylpheed and Alpine that roughly
(but often very servicably) render HTML as plain text. That
contributes a fair bit to their complexity, but hardly excuses how
unfriendly they can be to configure, or to fix when they break.
LucLan <address@is.invalid> wrote:
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
I use mutt. Simple and it does the job.
The OP also wants a notification also :)
I also use mutt, for notifications you can try wmbiff or
gkrellm. But this depends on your X environment. I use
Window Managers as opposed to Desktop Environments, so
wmbiff/gkrellm works fine. I do not know how wmbiff will
work with KDE/GNOME and friends. Gkrellm works fine on
any D/E.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-04-10 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones
I have looked at have had problems.
Thunderbird is probably the most complete one, followed by Evolution and Kmail.
Yikes, I found both Thunderbird and Evolution excruciatingly
bloated and over-complicated, so I'd better stay well away from
"Kmail". Those do both attempt accurate HTML rendering though,
unlike clients I prefer such as Sylpheed and Alpine that roughly
(but often very servicably) render HTML as plain text. That
contributes a fair bit to their complexity, but hardly excuses how
unfriendly they can be to configure, or to fix when they break.
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:40:12 -0000 (UTC)
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote at 13:12 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Sylpheed (https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/)
This is perfect! Thanks!
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
https://www.claws-mail.org/features.php
Yrrah
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course,
I'm having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs
work..
I managed to get gmail to work with an app password (which google seems
to have intentionally hidden). Not very secure though.
On 11 Apr 2024 07:55:03 +1000
not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-04-10 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
I was wondering if anyone would reccomend a good email client. I'm
mostly just looking for one that has notification support, but the ones >>>> I have looked at have had problems.
Thunderbird is probably the most complete one, followed by Evolution and >>> Kmail.
Yikes, I found both Thunderbird and Evolution excruciatingly
bloated and over-complicated, so I'd better stay well away from
"Kmail". Those do both attempt accurate HTML rendering though,
unlike clients I prefer such as Sylpheed and Alpine that roughly
(but often very servicably) render HTML as plain text. That
contributes a fair bit to their complexity, but hardly excuses how
unfriendly they can be to configure, or to fix when they break.
I used Thunderbird for a long time, and it was fine. I moved to Claws
Mail when Thunderbird stuffed up their PGP support. I used to use
Enigmail, but Thunderbird incorporated it into their product, and did
it in a way where it would not use your keyring, you had to import
your keys into Thunderbird. That was the end of that for me.
On 2024-04-13 02:38, Borax Man wrote:
On 11 Apr 2024 07:55:03 +1000
not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:
[...]Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
[...]
[...]
Yikes, I found both Thunderbird and Evolution excruciatingly
bloated and over-complicated, so I'd better stay well away from
"Kmail". Those do both attempt accurate HTML rendering though,
unlike clients I prefer such as Sylpheed and Alpine that roughly
(but often very servicably) render HTML as plain text. That
contributes a fair bit to their complexity, but hardly excuses how
unfriendly they can be to configure, or to fix when they break.
I used Thunderbird for a long time, and it was fine. I moved to Claws
Mail when Thunderbird stuffed up their PGP support. I used to use Enigmail, but Thunderbird incorporated it into their product, and did
it in a way where it would not use your keyring, you had to import
your keys into Thunderbird. That was the end of that for me.
They did not incorporate Enigmail, that would have been wonderful.
Instead they did their own limited implementation.
Thats right, I think enigmail stopped being supported. Had enigmail continued to work, I would still be using Thunderbird today.
On 4/13/24 18:58, Borax Man wrote:
Thats right, I think enigmail stopped being supported. Had enigmail continued to work, I would still be using Thunderbird today.
Check contemporary Thunderbird.
I believe Enigmail support was discontinued because it was promoted to
being natively included in Thunderbird. Or at least contemporary
Thunderbird has had Enigmail like functionality for a few years now.
On 4/13/24 18:58, Borax Man wrote:
Thats right, I think enigmail stopped being supported. Had enigmail
continued to work, I would still be using Thunderbird today.
Check contemporary Thunderbird.
I believe Enigmail support was discontinued because it was promoted to
being natively included in Thunderbird.
Or at least contemporary
Thunderbird has had Enigmail like functionality for a few years now.
On 2024-04-14 03:32, Borax Man wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:19:20 -0500
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
On 4/13/24 18:58, Borax Man wrote:
Thats right, I think enigmail stopped being supported. Had enigmail
continued to work, I would still be using Thunderbird today.
Check contemporary Thunderbird.
I believe Enigmail support was discontinued because it was promoted to
being natively included in Thunderbird. Or at least contemporary
Thunderbird has had Enigmail like functionality for a few years now.
I looked up what happened, Thunderbird did indeed implement its own
functionality, and this was to replace Enigmail.
I'm quite happy with Claws Mail and Mutt, and having briefly seen
Thunderbird as it is now, I think I'll stay as I prefer the simpler
Claws Mail interface. Also, I learned that I should stick to software
which is less opinionated, which doesn't have big visions, grand
strategies and the like. This way its less likely to just change
things on me, or decide for me how I should interact. I don't want to
build my digital world on ever shifting sands so I prefer to stick to
smaller, simpler software where there is less of a focus on
innovation.
IMO, every open source project is subject to big changes when the
developers "are replaced" or simply tire out and take new people. The
new people prefer to do new things in their own way instead of learning
the ropes and maintain old things.
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:19:20 -0500
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
On 4/13/24 18:58, Borax Man wrote:
Thats right, I think enigmail stopped being supported. Had enigmail
continued to work, I would still be using Thunderbird today.
Check contemporary Thunderbird.
I believe Enigmail support was discontinued because it was promoted to
being natively included in Thunderbird. Or at least contemporary
Thunderbird has had Enigmail like functionality for a few years now.
I looked up what happened, Thunderbird did indeed implement its own functionality, and this was to replace Enigmail.
I'm quite happy with Claws Mail and Mutt, and having briefly seen
Thunderbird as it is now, I think I'll stay as I prefer the simpler
Claws Mail interface. Also, I learned that I should stick to software
which is less opinionated, which doesn't have big visions, grand
strategies and the like. This way its less likely to just change
things on me, or decide for me how I should interact. I don't want to
build my digital world on ever shifting sands so I prefer to stick to smaller, simpler software where there is less of a focus on
innovation.
On 2024-04-15, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-04-14 03:32, Borax Man wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:19:20 -0500
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
On 4/13/24 18:58, Borax Man wrote:
Thats right, I think enigmail stopped being supported. Had enigmail >>>>> continued to work, I would still be using Thunderbird today.
Check contemporary Thunderbird.
I believe Enigmail support was discontinued because it was promoted to >>>> being natively included in Thunderbird. Or at least contemporary
Thunderbird has had Enigmail like functionality for a few years now.
I looked up what happened, Thunderbird did indeed implement its own
functionality, and this was to replace Enigmail.
I'm quite happy with Claws Mail and Mutt, and having briefly seen
Thunderbird as it is now, I think I'll stay as I prefer the simpler
Claws Mail interface. Also, I learned that I should stick to software
which is less opinionated, which doesn't have big visions, grand
strategies and the like. This way its less likely to just change
things on me, or decide for me how I should interact. I don't want to
build my digital world on ever shifting sands so I prefer to stick to
smaller, simpler software where there is less of a focus on
innovation.
IMO, every open source project is subject to big changes when the
developers "are replaced" or simply tire out and take new people. The
new people prefer to do new things in their own way instead of learning
the ropes and maintain old things.
True, but for some key software I've been able to keep some
consistency. ZSH, FVWM, PCManFM, Window Maker dockapps, mutt, Emacs,
Vim, slrn, the GNU utilities, they haven't changed.
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:40:12 -0000 (UTC)
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote at 13:12 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>:
I'm happy with Sylpheed (https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/)
This is perfect! Thanks!
I'm happy with Claws Mail, which was originally a Sylpheed fork.
https://www.claws-mail.org/features.php
Yrrah
Had trouble getting it to connect to gmail when I tried. Of course,
I'm having some server issues with sylpheed, but most of my accs
work..
I managed to get gmail to work with an app password (which google seems
to have intentionally hidden). Not very secure though.
On 2024-04-14 03:19, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 4/13/24 18:58, Borax Man wrote:
Thats right, I think enigmail stopped being supported. Had enigmail
continued to work, I would still be using Thunderbird today.
Check contemporary Thunderbird.
I believe Enigmail support was discontinued because it was promoted to
being natively included in Thunderbird.
No.
I repeat, TB created their own method, from scratch. Different. They did
not incorporate Enigmail at all.
Or at least contemporary
Thunderbird has had Enigmail like functionality for a few years now.
Not Enigmail like at all.
And about the same time, Mozilla fired many many people, so features
were removed.
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