The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.

Who's going to roast Turkeys in the middle of Summer?

Better to write

To ban Christmas, simply give prawns, oysters, and crayfish the vote.

<grin>

Jack
--
I have read so much about the dangers of tobacco, alcohol
and gambling, I made up my mind to stop reading.

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On 06/07/2024 06:30, Jack Strangio wrote:

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.

Who's going to roast Turkeys in the middle of Summer?

We did in Johannesburg. 40°C temperatures, roast turkey and christmas
pudding.

Followed by racing clockwork bath toys across the swimming pool.
Heady days.

--
"If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

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In article <lf0476Fqm5qU3@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
(rbowman) wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:18:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

UK prioritises stability over representation. EU nations are more representative, but volatile.

After 4 July I don't know about UK stability. Apparently the voters
were a little sick of stable.

I think what they were mainly sick of was incompetence.

I don't know enough of the situation to know if un-Brexit is in
the cards.

Very unlikely. The EU would not take the UK back unless all the major
political factions were in favour of it, which is definitely not the case
at present.

John

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On Sun, 7 Jul 2024, John Dallman wrote:

In article <lf0476Fqm5qU3@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
(rbowman) wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:18:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

UK prioritises stability over representation. EU nations are more
representative, but volatile.

After 4 July I don't know about UK stability. Apparently the voters
were a little sick of stable.

I think what they were mainly sick of was incompetence.

I don't know enough of the situation to know if un-Brexit is in
the cards.

Very unlikely. The EU would not take the UK back unless all the major political factions were in favour of it, which is definitely not the case
at present.

John

Are you sure? I think the EU would love to get it's old milking cow back.

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In article <50398c3b-1dca-838b-da46-0303da2f61b7@example.net>, nospam@example.net (D) wrote:

The EU would not take the UK back unless all the major political
factions were in favour of it, which is definitely not the case
at present.

Are you sure? I think the EU would love to get it's old milking cow
back.

Pretty sure. Having the UK rejoin and then want to leave again within a
few years after an election would be very counter-productive for the EU.
That's the general opinion among UK citizens in favour of rejoining.

There would also be a lot of fuss when people not so keen on rejoining discovered that the UK would lose many of its old opt-outs. One of those
was created specifically to allow the Murdochs to keep on owning TV
stations as well as newspapers, and other media companies have taken
advantage of that. We can thus be sure that most of the media would
oppose rejoining as being against their interests.

John

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On Mon, 8 Jul 2024, John Dallman wrote:

In article <50398c3b-1dca-838b-da46-0303da2f61b7@example.net>, nospam@example.net (D) wrote:

The EU would not take the UK back unless all the major political
factions were in favour of it, which is definitely not the case
at present.

Are you sure? I think the EU would love to get it's old milking cow
back.

Pretty sure. Having the UK rejoin and then want to leave again within a
few years after an election would be very counter-productive for the EU. That's the general opinion among UK citizens in favour of rejoining.

There would also be a lot of fuss when people not so keen on rejoining discovered that the UK would lose many of its old opt-outs. One of those
was created specifically to allow the Murdochs to keep on owning TV
stations as well as newspapers, and other media companies have taken advantage of that. We can thus be sure that most of the media would
oppose rejoining as being against their interests.

John

Very interesting! Thank you for the information John.

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On 07/07/2024 20:04, John Dallman wrote:

In article <lf0476Fqm5qU3@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
(rbowman) wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:18:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

UK prioritises stability over representation. EU nations are more
representative, but volatile.

After 4 July I don't know about UK stability. Apparently the voters
were a little sick of stable.

I think what they were mainly sick of was incompetence.

I don't know enough of the situation to know if un-Brexit is in
the cards.

Very unlikely. The EU would not take the UK back unless all the major political factions were in favour of it, which is definitely not the case
at present.

No, but what Starmer will do is under the guise of a 'better deal' trade
away all our freedoms for a few crumbs and place us under more EU law,
that we wont have any chance of changing

John

--
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

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On Tue, 9 Jul 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 07/07/2024 20:04, John Dallman wrote:

In article <lf0476Fqm5qU3@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
(rbowman) wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:18:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

UK prioritises stability over representation. EU nations are more
representative, but volatile.

After 4 July I don't know about UK stability. Apparently the voters
were a little sick of stable.

I think what they were mainly sick of was incompetence.

I don't know enough of the situation to know if un-Brexit is in
the cards.

Very unlikely. The EU would not take the UK back unless all the major
political factions were in favour of it, which is definitely not the case
at present.

No, but what Starmer will do is under the guise of a 'better deal' trade away all our freedoms for a few crumbs and place us under more EU law, that we wont have any chance of changing

That would be the classic socialist playbook. You then ask, but what's in
it for him? The answer, nice, well paid international political jobs with
very low taxes as a "thank you" for bringing the UK back under the control
of the EU-aristocracy.

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