• Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad

    From root@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 12 18:35:18 2024
    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to root on Mon Aug 12 13:08:09 2024
    On 8/12/24 11:35, root wrote:
    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

    First off run gparted to see what space you might
    have on the storage media to which Windows 11 installed.
    You seem naive to these procedures so I would check on
    the access to the BIOS and do a search on the Web to
    see if anyone else has had the idea. I use DuckDuckGo
    to search and advise anyone who values privacy.

    Use the search term "Install Linux on Ideapad 1.4UL7"
    Then come back here and and ask more questions but what
    Linux are you planning to install?

    bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.06- Linux 6.6.45-Plasma 5.27.11
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  • From D@21:1/5 to root on Mon Aug 12 22:12:39 2024
    On Mon, 12 Aug 2024, root wrote:

    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.


    Why don't you just try? Make a backup and go for it.

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  • From Jack Strangio@21:1/5 to root on Tue Aug 13 04:12:30 2024
    root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:
    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

    Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery. These days I only buy Lenovo.
    I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

    I use Linux Mint. It's also a good distro for those moving across from
    Windows. My own preference is Mint Mate.

    Make sure you back up all your personal data before you even think of playing with your system.

    Make sure you have produced your Windows System Recovery USB before you even think of playing with your system.

    Watch a youtube or two of installing linux and dual-booting Windows,
    preferably with the distro you'll actually be using.

    If you decide on a Linux distro which is not what you have already used as a Live USB, do so for a week or two before you take the plunge.

    Use Windows disk tools or maybe gparted to reduce the size of Windows on
    your boot disk bfore you start to install the Linux distro. I generally
    reduce my Windows partition(s) as much as possible to somewhere beween 50
    and 100 gig. The rest of the space on my drives is allocated to Linux. On
    one machine I have dispensed with Windows altogether. I rarely boot Windows,
    I usually use a Windows 7 guest in VirtualBox when I have to use my HP
    scanner software, and that's not all that often.

    When you have Linux up and running, try to use it for everything. That's
    the fastest way to learn the nitty-gritty stuff. Google what's beyond your
    own current capabilities. If still stuck, then boot Windows as a last
    resort to fix that problem.

    Good luck.

    You'll find a different way of life. :)

    Jack


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  • From Michael Uplawski@21:1/5 to Jack Strangio on Tue Aug 13 07:03:04 2024
    Jack Strangio wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:

    Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery. These days I only buy Lenovo.
    I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

    In most cases, though, no customization is needed.
    Our notebooks are not of the newest generation, but Lenovo poses
    absolutely no problem. The distribution should not matter.

    Cheerio

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  • From Charlie Gibbs@21:1/5 to Jack Strangio on Tue Aug 13 05:20:35 2024
    On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:

    root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:

    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

    Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery. These days I only buy Lenovo.
    I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

    The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410. This is my second Lenovo;
    I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux quite well.

    I use Linux Mint. It's also a good distro for those moving across from Windows. My own preference is Mint Mate.

    I'm running Debian (currently Bookworm) with Xfce, which is lightweight
    and responsive - as opposed to, say, KDE, which may be pretty but was
    quite a resource hog when last I tried it. But pick whatever makes you
    happy - unlike Windows there are many choices of desktop environments.

    <snip>

    Use Windows disk tools or maybe gparted to reduce the size of Windows on
    your boot disk bfore you start to install the Linux distro. I generally reduce my Windows partition(s) as much as possible to somewhere beween 50
    and 100 gig. The rest of the space on my drives is allocated to Linux.

    My laptop came with Windows 7, which I keep in a dual-boot configuration
    just in case I needit. The last time I needed it was a couple of years
    ago. I agree that you should reduce the size of the Windows partition
    if you're going to dual-boot - but Windows tends to put a Master File
    Table (MFT) smack in the middle of the partition, and it's not movable
    by normal means. This means you can't shrink the Windows partition down
    to less than half its size unless you resort to a third-party solution.
    Try PerfectDisk from Raxco (www.raxco.com) - you can download a free
    demo version which can move the MFT. It will take a few reboot cycles,
    but you can shrink the Windows partition quite a bit. My Windows
    partition is now 60GB on a 250GB hard drive.

    I usually use a Windows 7 guest in VirtualBox when I have to use my HP scanner software, and that's not all that often.

    I run XP in VirtualBox for Windows software development. Less is more -
    I give it 30GB of disk space and 512MB of memory, which is enough for
    my needs, so it's light on resources and still runs fast.

    When you have Linux up and running, try to use it for everything. That's
    the fastest way to learn the nitty-gritty stuff. Google what's beyond your own current capabilities. If still stuck, then boot Windows as a last
    resort to fix that problem.

    LibreOffice does just about anything MS Office will, unless you're
    one of those Excel gurus who uses every little feature. VLC and
    mpv do a good job of playing videos and sound files. The latest
    versions of Firefox and Thunderbird are available to surf the Web
    and process e-mail, and xscreensaver is a prettier screen saver
    than anything you'll find under Windows. There are lots of Linux
    utilities out there that will do just about anything you want, if
    you can live with the fact that they might be a bit different from
    their Windows counterparts. Most of these utilities come with a
    standard Linux distro, and installation is a breeze.

    Good luck.

    You'll find a different way of life. :)

    Indeed. No more forced upgrades, no more monthly rentals, no more
    nagware. It'll take a bit of work, but there are lots of sources
    of information you can search for on the Web. Use DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com) and you're free from Google's surveillance.
    And, of course, there's this newsgroup - post your questions here
    and we'll try to to help.

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  • From Charlie Gibbs@21:1/5 to 186282@ud0s4.net on Tue Aug 13 05:28:16 2024
    On 2024-08-13, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

    A slower option is to install VirtualBox in Winders
    and install Linux as a virtual machine. The advantage
    is that it's always handily available, the downside
    is that the VM is slower than a 'bare metal' install.

    If it's slower, it's not by much. A Windows VM is quite
    fast enough for me. I have a report progam test bed with
    a .BAT file that runs the program several dozen times with
    various options; on small files it will flicker the screen
    10 times a second with consecutive executions, and it will
    process million-record files in 5 seconds.

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    \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | first society that wouldn't save
    X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | itself because it wasn't cost-
    / \ if you read it the right way. | effective. -- Kurt Vonnegut

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to root on Tue Aug 13 01:17:27 2024
    On 8/12/24 2:35 PM, root wrote:
    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

    SHOULD work OK. The Linux installer WILL give you
    the option to SHRINK a Winders partition so there
    will be room to install Linux. Note that Linux is
    MUCH more efficient/compact so even a 30gb partition
    is usually more than enough. Linux file managers
    WILL give you access to your remaining Winders
    partitions, so you can store "big" data there if
    needed.

    The only issues I've seen with laptops relates
    to "secure boot" options in the BIOS. Most
    laptops are (intentionally) biased towards
    Winders and Winders only - but almost all CAN
    still be tweaked to boot Linux.

    A slower option is to install VirtualBox in Winders
    and install Linux as a virtual machine. The advantage
    is that it's always handily available, the downside
    is that the VM is slower than a 'bare metal' install.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Charlie Gibbs on Tue Aug 13 05:52:35 2024
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 05:20:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    LibreOffice does just about anything MS Office will, unless you're one
    of those Excel gurus who uses every little feature.

    Let’s just say, some of those Excel features are best avoided.

    <https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1008984>:

    If a spreadsheet must be used, then LibreOffice is recommended
    because it will avoid such errors from occurring.

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to Charlie Gibbs on Tue Aug 13 02:22:08 2024
    On 8/13/24 1:28 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
    On 2024-08-13, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

    A slower option is to install VirtualBox in Winders
    and install Linux as a virtual machine. The advantage
    is that it's always handily available, the downside
    is that the VM is slower than a 'bare metal' install.

    If it's slower, it's not by much. A Windows VM is quite
    fast enough for me. I have a report progam test bed with
    a .BAT file that runs the program several dozen times with
    various options; on small files it will flicker the screen
    10 times a second with consecutive executions, and it will
    process million-record files in 5 seconds.

    With resources properly allocated a VM can be
    fairly speedy these days. I'd still rather go
    bare metal ... but then I'm from Back In The
    Day. THIS poster sounded more of a Win guy
    looking to explore Linux without risk to his
    (mistakenly) beloved Winders. Dual-boot IS
    technically better - but, for him, a VM may be
    the best way to go, little risk of serious damage.

    With luck he'll decide Linux IS the better way
    and PURGE M$ entirely from his laptop :-)

    Just looking at the shelf, I have FOUR lower-end
    laptops ... ALL pure Linux. Makes a cheap laptop
    into a fairly speedy laptop - plus no M$ ! Actually
    I have NO M$ boxes at all, haven't for a LONG LONG
    time, but EIGHT active Linux units not including
    the laptops. Accidentally bought an extra BMax unit,
    but I think that's gonna be a BSD eventually,
    MAYBE Plan-9 just to be weird.

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  • From Andreas Eder@21:1/5 to Charlie Gibbs on Tue Aug 13 17:32:00 2024
    On Di 13 Aug 2024 at 05:20, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:

    root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:

    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

    Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery. These days I only buy Lenovo. >> I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

    The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410. This is my second Lenovo;
    I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux quite well.

    +1

    And there are always good refurbished models on the market for a good
    price.

    LibreOffice does just about anything MS Office will, unless you're
    one of those Excel gurus who uses every little feature. VLC and
    mpv do a good job of playing videos and sound files. The latest
    versions of Firefox and Thunderbird are available to surf the Web
    and process e-mail, and xscreensaver is a prettier screen saver
    than anything you'll find under Windows. There are lots of Linux
    utilities out there that will do just about anything you want, if
    you can live with the fact that they might be a bit different from
    their Windows counterparts. Most of these utilities come with a
    standard Linux distro, and installation is a breeze.

    I live in Emacs and the writing is done with TeX/LaTeX (inside Emacs). Calc-Mode and Org-Mode are also improtant for me.

    'Andreas

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Charlie Gibbs on Tue Aug 13 18:53:15 2024
    On 13/08/2024 18:17, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
    On 2024-08-13, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:

    On Di 13 Aug 2024 at 05:20, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>
    On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:

    root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:

    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

    Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery. These days I only buy Lenovo. >>>> I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

    The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410. This is my second Lenovo; >>> I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux >>> quite well.

    +1

    And there are always good refurbished models on the market for a good
    price.

    Yes, I forgot to mention that my machines are refurbs.
    A lot of Lenovo laptops come from offices that replace
    their machines regularly whether they need to or not.


    That same thing.
    What often happens is that a 3rd party company has the duty to supply
    and maintain the desktops, and after 5 years or so they are not
    interested. They will supply new, take the old back, get the disks
    crushed and pass what's left onto a refurb company.

    Its all about being able to warrant the hardware software and support.

    And accountancy rules. 5 years and they are written off against tax already.

    We benefirt from machines selling at a lower price than the processors
    inside them

    --
    The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
    its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

    Anon.

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  • From Charlie Gibbs@21:1/5 to Andreas Eder on Tue Aug 13 17:17:31 2024
    On 2024-08-13, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:

    On Di 13 Aug 2024 at 05:20, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:

    root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:

    The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
    I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
    I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

    Thanks for suggestions.

    Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery. These days I only buy Lenovo. >>> I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

    The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410. This is my second Lenovo; >> I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux >> quite well.

    +1

    And there are always good refurbished models on the market for a good
    price.

    Yes, I forgot to mention that my machines are refurbs.
    A lot of Lenovo laptops come from offices that replace
    their machines regularly whether they need to or not.

    --
    /~\ Charlie Gibbs | We'll go down in history as the
    \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | first society that wouldn't save
    X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | itself because it wasn't cost-
    / \ if you read it the right way. | effective. -- Kurt Vonnegut

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  • From root@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Tue Aug 13 18:48:49 2024
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    First off run gparted to see what space you might
    have on the storage media to which Windows 11 installed.
    You seem naive to these procedures so I would check on
    the access to the BIOS and do a search on the Web to
    see if anyone else has had the idea. I use DuckDuckGo
    to search and advise anyone who values privacy.

    Use the search term "Install Linux on Ideapad 1.4UL7"
    Then come back here and and ask more questions but what
    Linux are you planning to install?

    bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.06- Linux 6.6.45-Plasma 5.27.11

    I would install Slackware current.

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  • From root@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue Aug 13 18:50:57 2024
    D <nospam@example.net> wrote:


    Why don't you just try? Make a backup and go for it.

    I bought a tiny Celeron computer and tried to install
    linux: the device was bricked. That device had Win 11
    locked into its firmware.

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  • From Jack Strangio@21:1/5 to Charlie Gibbs on Wed Aug 14 01:50:19 2024
    Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

    The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410. This is my second Lenovo;
    I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux quite well.

    I bought my T410 back in 2010 just before I went to France for just under a year. I can't bear to part with it. I've upgraded the harddrive to 2gigs and replaced a faulty keyboard, and that's all.

    Still my favorite laptop keyboard. :)


    Jack

    --
    My wife says I have two faults:
    I don't listen and something else.

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