On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 18:59:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

This does not /directly/ address your issue, but....

Can you not create a filesystem (hard/soft)link to the file,
such that the (hard/soft)link /does not/ include the ampersand,
and then use /that/ filename in your html?

Something like
ln -s 'U&blah.png' U_blah.png
...
<img src="U_blah.png"/>

?

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I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?


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On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 19:44:30 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

http://localhost/U%26blah.txt

works here (both with IIS on win11 and apache on Fedora)

With test files white_grapes.png and white&grapes.png
(where white_grapes.png is a symlink to white&grapes.png)
both
<img src="white_grapes.png" />
and
<img src="white&grapes.png" />
produced proper images in Firefox, from an apache server


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"In Skills We Trust"

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

http://localhost/U%26blah.txt

works here (both with IIS on win11 and apache on Fedora)

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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work

You have a syntax error above. An encoded ampersand is &amp;
The trailing semicolon is part of the encoded value.

You need U&amp;blah.png inside the src="" attribute.

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On 2024-09-07 19:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

I copied a jpg file and renamed it "U&blah.jpg"

On the command line, this works:

w3m U\&blah.jpg

This is direct loading, bypassing apache.


If I put the file in apache path, it also works.


cer@Telcontar:/srv/www/home/cer/ampersand> l
total 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 cer users 4096 Sep 7 21:00 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 cer root 4096 Sep 7 21:07 ../
-rw-r--r-- 1 cer users 3402 Sep 7 21:00 U&blah.jpg cer@Telcontar:/srv/www/home/cer/ampersand>


The command "w3m http://localhost/~cer/ampersand" displays the page:

Index of /~cer/ampersand

Icon Name Last modified Size Description ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
[PARENTDIR] Parent Directory -
[IMG] U&blah.jpg 2024-09-07 21:00 3.3K ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━


Apache/2.4.51 (Linux/SUSE) Server at localhost Port 80


And hitting enter on the file displays the photo it contains (it calls imagemagick, as w3m is a text mode web browser).


Then I tried with firefox, and it also works.

http://localhost/~cer/ampersand/U&blah.jpg

So, no problem! :-)



Oh, I also added a photo with png extension, no problem.


http://localhost/~cer/ampersand/x&inesnap-20020308-195150-1.png




Did I misunderstand something?


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On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 19:05:54 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote:

On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 19:44:30 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

http://localhost/U%26blah.txt

works here (both with IIS on win11 and apache on Fedora)

With test files white_grapes.png and white&grapes.png
(where white_grapes.png is a symlink to white&grapes.png)
both
<img src="white_grapes.png" />
and
<img src="white&grapes.png" />
produced proper images in Firefox, from an apache server

Also
http://host/white&grapes.png
resolves to the proper image when entered in the URL bar
of Firefox (again, image served by an apache server on Linux)


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"In Skills We Trust"

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Lew Pitcher wrote:

both
<img src="white_grapes.png" />
and
<img src="white&grapes.png" />
produced proper images in Firefox, from an apache server

to the o/p, is the filename exactly what you think it is?

ls -b U* | hexdump -C

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 18:59:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

Tried:

touch 'U&blah.png'
firefox U\&blah.png

And a Firefox tab appeared with “file:///«path»/U&blah.png” in its address bar, and a message saying the image couldn’t be displayed
because it had errors (of course, being a zero-length file).

Or is this supposed to work through a web server?

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On 07/09/2024 19:44, Andy Burns wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

http://localhost/U%26blah.txt

works here (both with IIS on win11 and apache on Fedora)

Works here too when I actually point the browser at the development
server, not the old server.
I feel a trife ashamed....

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On 2024-09-08 14:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 07/09/2024 19:44, Andy Burns wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

http://localhost/U%26blah.txt

works here (both with IIS on win11 and apache on Fedora)

Works here too when I actually point the browser at the development
server, not the old server.
I feel a trife ashamed....

No problem -- Issue explained :-)

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On 07/09/2024 20:33, Lew Pitcher wrote:

On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 19:05:54 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote:

On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 19:44:30 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I have a file that has to be called U&blah.png

I cannot find any way to direct the browser to load it

U&ampblah.png doesnt work
U%26blah.png doesnt work

Using php rawurlencode doesnt work. It effectively does nothing

Any ideas?

http://localhost/U%26blah.txt

works here (both with IIS on win11 and apache on Fedora)

With test files white_grapes.png and white&grapes.png
(where white_grapes.png is a symlink to white&grapes.png)
both
<img src="white_grapes.png" />
and
<img src="white&grapes.png" />
produced proper images in Firefox, from an apache server

Also
http://host/white&grapes.png
resolves to the proper image when entered in the URL bar
of Firefox (again, image served by an apache server on Linux)

Yeah apologies all round. I was making changes to the development server
while testing on the old server.


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On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 13:47:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Yeah apologies all round. I was making changes to the development server while testing on the old server.

I've never, ever done anything like that :) It does tend to make you doubt
your sanity.

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On 08/09/2024 18:45, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 13:47:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Yeah apologies all round. I was making changes to the development server
while testing on the old server.

I've never, ever done anything like that :) It does tend to make you doubt your sanity.

The setup here is rather peculiar. Depending on what port (80 or 443)
you select you get a completely different server.

That isn't a long term solution, it's just how it is for development


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