On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:29:32 +0100, D wrote:

Come to think of it... swedes focus more on biker gangs. Very few
arabians in biker gangs. Very racist!

On 2025-01-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

'Sons of Anarchy' was a fictional drama but it touched on reality at
times. The Mongols are Hispanics while the Angels, Banditos, and others
are white. There isn't much diversity.

In Denmark, too, much of the drug trade was controlled by biker gangs.
Hell's Angels and Bandidos in fierce competition.

I hear that in Sweden, it is mostly Turks these days?

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On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Lars Poulsen wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:29:32 +0100, D wrote:

Come to think of it... swedes focus more on biker gangs. Very few
arabians in biker gangs. Very racist!

On 2025-01-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

'Sons of Anarchy' was a fictional drama but it touched on reality at
times. The Mongols are Hispanics while the Angels, Banditos, and others
are white. There isn't much diversity.

In Denmark, too, much of the drug trade was controlled by biker gangs.
Hell's Angels and Bandidos in fierce competition.

I hear that in Sweden, it is mostly Turks these days?

Some turks, mostly arabians, some africans, mostly somalis I think. Turks
have been on decline, and the arabians are taking over.

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On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 22:02:15 +0100, D wrote:

Some turks, mostly arabians, some africans, mostly somalis I think.
Turks have been on decline, and the arabians are taking over.

No eastern Europeans? iirc they often were the villains in the Wallander series. although I think he also wrote about the Muslims. I know one
author had a glowing description of Malmö. I think Larsson was too busy
being a Communist to notice the real problem.

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On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member. Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk

Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

My ex'es lineage includes a couple that moved from South Carolina to the
Texas panhandle in stages through the decade of "the trail of tears".
The assumption among family historians was that the wife was Cherokee,
but there is no hint of links to the tribal rolls. He probably didn't
see any advantage to it. since he was quite successful. "He arrived in
the (TX) panhandle with a wagon and the oxen that pulled it, and by the
time he died, he owned 29 3/4 sections of range land. He never spent
money on anything but buying land and expanding his cattle herd."

We loved the story, but we never felt any pull towards claiming benefits
from Indian heritage. Except for my niece, who put a 1/16th native blood
on her college application - she needed all the scholarships she could
find.

My daughter, on the other hand, noted on her application that she was
(1) a Daughter of the American Revolution through her mother (descended
from John Alden of the Mayflower) and (2) the child of an immigrant
through me. Just for fun. She is of course also a dual national from
birth and has lived abroad 3 times. (A year at age 5, a year at age 16,
and recently 6 months at age 36.)

This mythical "probably a bit of Cherokee" is quite common in the Texas/Oklahoma borderlands, and I don't hold it against anyone.

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk

Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.

Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.

My ex'es lineage includes a couple that moved from South Carolina to the >Texas panhandle in stages through the decade of "the trail of tears".
The assumption among family historians was that the wife was Cherokee,
but there is no hint of links to the tribal rolls. He probably didn't
see any advantage to it. since he was quite successful. "He arrived in
the (TX) panhandle with a wagon and the oxen that pulled it, and by the
time he died, he owned 29 3/4 sections of range land. He never spent
money on anything but buying land and expanding his cattle herd."

We loved the story, but we never felt any pull towards claiming benefits
from Indian heritage. Except for my niece, who put a 1/16th native blood
on her college application - she needed all the scholarships she could
find.

My daughter, on the other hand, noted on her application that she was
(1) a Daughter of the American Revolution through her mother (descended
from John Alden of the Mayflower) and (2) the child of an immigrant
through me. Just for fun. She is of course also a dual national from
birth and has lived abroad 3 times. (A year at age 5, a year at age 16,
and recently 6 months at age 36.)

This mythical "probably a bit of Cherokee" is quite common in the >Texas/Oklahoma borderlands, and I don't hold it against anyone.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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On 1/14/25 11:30 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite >>> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk

Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse >>> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry >>> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.

Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.

Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
tribe be Purified !" :-)

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

This mythical "probably a bit of Cherokee" is quite common in the Texas/Oklahoma borderlands, and I don't hold it against anyone.

There is a small but interesting Iroquois museum in upstate NY that's sort
of a labor of love. The guy running it is even more interesting than the artifacts. As we were talking I said 'My grandmother was a full-blooded..'
and his eyes started to roll. When I finished with '...German' we had a
good laugh.

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 22:02:15 +0100, D wrote:

Some turks, mostly arabians, some africans, mostly somalis I think.
Turks have been on decline, and the arabians are taking over.

No eastern Europeans? iirc they often were the villains in the Wallander series. although I think he also wrote about the Muslims. I know one

I think that was more common in the 90s. Some bosnians & co came to sweden
and started lower level maffia gangs, but they never managed to grow to
the size and power as the arabian maffia.

I would imagine that small slivers still exist and live well off selling weapons to the arabians. I've heard the majority of weapons come from the balkans and are smuggled into sweden by boat and car.

author had a glowing description of Malmö. I think Larsson was too busy being a Communist to notice the real problem.

This is a correct statement. I think Larsson was very communist. I think
most cultural workers in sweden are communist. It helps getting government support. Also the culture of culture workers is very leftist. I don't know
why. I've met _one_ artist in my life who was centrist, or almost
a-political, and one artist was a friend of my mother and although being
left, she didn't really care that much about it. My mother, being very
right and conservative and her artist friend managed to stay friends for decades.

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/14/25 11:30 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
<lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite >>>> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the >>>> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member. >>>> Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk

Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse >>>> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I >>>> think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry >>>> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.

Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.

Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
tribe be Purified !" :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

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On 15/01/2025 05:49, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
  to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
  tribe be Purified !"  🙂

Already happening.

--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

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On 15/01/2025 09:04, D wrote:

I've met _one_ artist in my life who was centrist, or almost
a-political, and one artist was a friend of my mother and although being left, she didn't really care that much about it. My mother, being very
right and conservative and her artist friend managed to stay friends for decades.

WE have long running jokes about the Engineer™ and the ArtStudent™

While the ArtStudent™ spends hours dreaming up idealised imaginary
solutions, the Engineer™ gets a tool and cracks the problem in seconds...

It is the essential difference between what the US calls Liberalism,
and what is called Conservatism.

I think Winston Churchill summed up socialism as the 'equal sharing of poverty', because social justice *only* was the aim. Never increasing
wealth, only splitting it 'fairly'.

Today's UK government epitomises that.

Job creation, not wealth creation
Taxation not investment.
Regulation, not free enterprise.

The furore in the free software epitomises it. Never mind good code, as
long as you are a right minded person who thinks men can have vaginas.

--
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

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On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!

--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 09:04, D wrote:

I've met _one_ artist in my life who was centrist, or almost a-political,
and one artist was a friend of my mother and although being left, she
didn't really care that much about it. My mother, being very right and
conservative and her artist friend managed to stay friends for decades.

WE have long running jokes about the Engineer™ and the ArtStudent™

While the ArtStudent™ spends hours dreaming up idealised imaginary solutions, the Engineer™ gets a tool and cracks the problem in seconds...

It is the essential difference between what the US calls Liberalism, and what is called Conservatism.

I think Winston Churchill summed up socialism as the 'equal sharing of poverty', because social justice *only* was the aim. Never increasing wealth, only splitting it 'fairly'.

Today's UK government epitomises that.

Job creation, not wealth creation
Taxation not investment.
Regulation, not free enterprise.

The furore in the free software epitomises it. Never mind good code, as long as you are a right minded person who thinks men can have vaginas.

This is the truth! For a lot of entertaining material on that theme in the
tech sector, have a look at https://lunduke.substack.com/ .

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!

You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!

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On 15/01/2025 17:55, D wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!

You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events. Brilliant!

Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am
older than a very old thing stops me....


--
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 17:55, D wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!

You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!

Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am older than a very old thing stops me....

Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't you?
So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the genes
that regulate that!!

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On 1/15/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 05:49, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
   to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
   tribe be Purified !"  🙂

Already happening.

Uh oh .......

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On 1/15/25 4:12 AM, D wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/14/25 11:30 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
<lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are
quite
picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the >>>>> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized
member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk

Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the
horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee
but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee
ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.

Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.

 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution' :-)

Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...

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On 15/01/2025 21:16, D wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 17:55, D wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!

You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see
it happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT
events. Brilliant!

Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and
am older than a very old thing stops me....

Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't
you? So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the
genes that regulate that!!

True! All I need to do is self identify as an 18 yr old Cherokee squaw
and there you are, I am one!

--
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:59:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Statistically it is 99.99% certain that any British-descended person
is descended from royalty of one sort or another.

On 1/15/25 5:47 PM, rbowman wrote:

I'm descended from a long line of pirates, horse thieves, and general
ne'er-do-wells. There's reasons we-uns ain't in Europe no more.

On 2025-01-16, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

I'm sure my line derived from Nordic marauders and
civil engineers.

All hail Woden One-Eye !

Anyway, 'England' is at least half Nord genes by now.
The nearest thing to "Original England" is Wales, and
to a lesser extent Cornwall.

But even they weren't "original". England may win the
prize for "most invaded" landmass ever. Lots and lots
of little groups stretching back into the Ice Age, then
the Beaker People, then ... it's COMPLICATED.

There are other places that were "crossroads" that are
equally complicated - genetically/culturally. England
was kind of the dead-end dest, where every wandering
tribe kinda wound up.

Hmmmm ... some say 'gods' only live so long as they
are remembered - did I just extend the lifetime of
Woden ? :-)

Givin the historical success of the English on the world stage,
I think you just made an excellent case for the long-term economic
benefits of ethnic/cultural diversity.

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution' :-)

Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...

Interesting! Was she very beautiful?

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 21:16, D wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 17:55, D wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!

You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it >>>> happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!

Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am >>> older than a very old thing stops me....

Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't you? >> So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the genes
that regulate that!!

True! All I need to do is self identify as an 18 yr old Cherokee squaw and there you are, I am one!

You've got it! Welcome to the global leftist association! ;)

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On 16/01/2025 18:36, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:30:40 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

Givin the historical success of the English on the world stage,
I think you just made an excellent case for the long-term economic
benefits of ethnic/cultural diversity.

Linux Foundation Research Reveals New Open Source Diversity, Equity,
and Inclusion Trends

The lunatics have taken over everything.
The long march through the institutions is complete.

The social Marxists will destroy the world, ostensibly in order to build
a better one.
It has never worked before


--
“People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them,
and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

Paul Krugman

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:30:40 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

Givin the historical success of the English on the world stage,
I think you just made an excellent case for the long-term economic
benefits of ethnic/cultural diversity.

Linux Foundation Research Reveals New Open Source Diversity, Equity,
and Inclusion Trends
By
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December 14, 2021
1076

Eighty-two percent of respondents to global survey feel welcome in the
open source community, while barriers to participation include time,
personal background, and some exclusionary behaviors

SAN FRANCISCO, Calif., December 14, 2021 — The Linux Foundation, the nonprofit organization enabling mass innovation through open source,
today announced the release of its latest LF Research study,
“Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in Open Source.”

The study, which includes the results of both qualitative interviews
and a worldwide survey with more than 7,000 initial responses from the
open source community, was created to increase the industry’s
collective understanding of the state of Diversity, Equity, and
Inclusion (DEI) in open source and to inform important DEI practices.
The sponsors of this research include Amazon Web Services (AWS),
CHAOSS Community, Comcast, Fujitsu, GitHub, GitLab, Hitachi, Huawei,
Intel, NEC, Panasonic, Red Hat, Renesas, and VMware.

“The open source community is growing at an unprecedented pace and
it’s imperative that we understand that growth in the context of
diversity, equity. and inclusion so that we can collectively implement
best practices that result in inclusive communities,” said Hilary
Carter, Vice President of Research at the Linux Foundation. “The
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in Open Source study gives us
valuable insights that can lead to a more diverse global open source community.”

Study after study has revealed that diversity among technology
builders leads to better, more robust technologies. But the industry
continues to struggle with increasing diversity, and the open source
software community is no exception. Building and sustaining inclusive communities can attract a more diverse talent pool and prioritizes the
next generation of open source technologies. The Linux Foundation’s Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in Open Source study aims to identify
the state of DEI in open source communities, the challenges and
opportunities within them, and draw conclusions around creating
improvements in much-needed areas.

“Understanding data behind Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in the
open source community allows us to identify areas for focus and
improvement. The open source community will greatly benefit from the
actions we take to grow engagement and make it a welcoming place for everyone,” said Nithya Ruff, Comcast Fellow, Head of Comcast Cable
Open Source Program Office, and Linux Foundation board chair.

Key findings from the study include:

Eighty-two percent of respondents feel welcome in open source, but
different groups had different perspectives overall. The 18 percent of
those that do not feel welcome are from disproportionately
underrepresented groups: people with disabilities, transgender people,
and racial and ethnic minorities in North America.

Increasing open source diversity reflects growing global adoption, but
there is still much room to improve.

As the global adoption of open source technologies grows rapidly, so,
too, is diversity within open source communities. But there remains a
lot of room for growth: 82 percent of respondents identify as male, 74
percent identify as heterosexual, and 71 percent are between the ages
of 25-54.

Time is a top determinant for open source participation

Time-related barriers to access and exposure in open source include discretionary and unpaid time, time for onboarding, networking, and professional development, as well as time zones.

Exclusionary behaviors can have a cascading effect on contributors’ experience and retention.

Exclusionary behavior has cascading effects on feelings of belonging, opportunities to participate, achieve leadership, and retention. While
toxic experiences are generally infrequent, rejection of
contributions, interpersonal tensions, stereotyping, and aggressive
language are far more frequently experienced by certain groups (2-3
times higher frequency than the study average).

People’s backgrounds can impact equitable access to open source
participation early in their careers, compounding representation in
leadership later on.

Just 16 percent of students’ universities offer open source as part of
their curricula. This, along with unreliable connectivity, geographic, economic, and professional disparities narrow an individual’s
opportunity to contribute.

“Understanding the state of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in the
open source community is critical for business strategy and nurturing
an inclusive culture,” said Demetris Cheatham, senior director,
Diversity and Inclusion Strategy at GitHub. “This newest data,
encompassing both qualitative and quantitative research from the Linux Foundation, helps direct our attention on the things that matter most
to our employees and the great community and industry.”

The study also points to societal changes and trends that are
impacting DEI in the workplace. Enterprise Digital Transformation,
Techlash, Political Polarization, Social Media Ecosystem and Content
Moderation are all cited as trends that have exposed and amplified
exclusionary narratives and designs, mandating increased awareness,
and recalibrating individual and organizational attention.

To download the complete study, please visit:

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/addressing-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-2021-and-beyond/

For more information on the Linux Foundation’s DEI initiatives, please
visit: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/diversity-inclusivity/

About the Linux Foundation

Founded in 2000, the Linux Foundation and its projects are supported
by more than 1,800 members and is the world’s leading home for
collaboration on open source software, open standards, open data, and
open hardware. Linux Foundation’s projects are critical to the world’s infrastructure including Linux, Kubernetes, Node.js, Hyperledger,
RISC-V, and more. The Linux Foundation’s methodology focuses on
leveraging best practices and addressing the needs of contributors,
users, and solution providers to create sustainable models for open collaboration. For more information, please visit us at
linuxfoundation.org.

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--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 16/01/2025 18:36, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:30:40 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
<lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

Givin the historical success of the English on the world stage,
I think you just made an excellent case for the long-term economic
benefits of ethnic/cultural diversity.

Linux Foundation Research Reveals New Open Source Diversity, Equity,
and Inclusion Trends

The lunatics have taken over everything.
The long march through the institutions is complete.

The social Marxists will destroy the world, ostensibly in order to build a better one.
It has never worked before

I wouldn't be so sure. Looks like corporate america has been very quick to
say good bye to their woke masters, and to welcome Mr. T! =D

I'm certain that as it spreads like shock waves through corporations and institutions, it might be rolled back at the linux foundation too.

Fun fact... because of the linux foundation woke bullsh*t I denied working together with them. It benefited immensely, because people actually come
to my events and no one even knows about their events in my vicinity! =)

They have a little daughter organization which is more closely aligned
with what I am interested in, and they always ask me why people come to my events and not to their events. I tell them the key is to drop the
bullshit and do interesting things. They never get the message.

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On 1/16/25 10:52 AM, D wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)

 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...

Interesting! Was she very beautiful?

Quite.

But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
remember her as she was.

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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/16/25 10:52 AM, D wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)

 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...

Interesting! Was she very beautiful?

Quite.

But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
remember her as she was.

Time is cruel! =(

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On 16/01/2025 20:15, D wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 16/01/2025 18:36, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:30:40 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
<lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

Givin the historical success of the English on the world stage,
I think you just made an excellent case for the long-term economic
benefits of ethnic/cultural diversity.

Linux Foundation Research Reveals New Open Source Diversity, Equity,
and Inclusion Trends

The lunatics have taken over everything.
The long march through the institutions is complete.

The social Marxists will destroy the world, ostensibly in order to
build a better one.
It has never worked before

I wouldn't be so sure. Looks like corporate america has been very quick
to say good bye to their woke masters, and to welcome Mr. T! =D

Do you think so? Its it just a question of 'here's my tongue, just tell
me which arse to lick'

I'm certain that as it spreads like shock waves through corporations and institutions, it might be rolled back at the linux foundation too.

Fun fact... because of the linux foundation woke bullsh*t I denied
working together with them. It benefited immensely, because people
actually come to my events and no one even knows about their events in
my vicinity! =)
#

Mmm.

They have a little daughter organization which is more closely aligned
with what I am interested in, and they always ask me why people come to
my events and not to their events. I tell them the key is to drop the bullshit and do interesting things. They never get the message.

Its a common experience. Peole get together, have a little success, then
want bigger success, when you tell them 'you will need organisation,
structure, full time employees' etc etc. They say 'but I dont want all
that. I juts want the organisation to be bigger and more successful'

--
Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I wouldn't be so sure. Looks like corporate america has been very quick to >> say good bye to their woke masters, and to welcome Mr. T! =D

Do you think so? Its it just a question of 'here's my tongue, just tell me which arse to lick'

This is another valid interpretation!

I'm certain that as it spreads like shock waves through corporations and
institutions, it might be rolled back at the linux foundation too.

Fun fact... because of the linux foundation woke bullsh*t I denied working >> together with them. It benefited immensely, because people actually come to >> my events and no one even knows about their events in my vicinity! =)
#

Mmm.

They have a little daughter organization which is more closely aligned with >> what I am interested in, and they always ask me why people come to my
events and not to their events. I tell them the key is to drop the bullshit >> and do interesting things. They never get the message.

Its a common experience. Peole get together, have a little success, then want bigger success, when you tell them 'you will need organisation, structure, full time employees' etc etc. They say 'but I dont want all that. I juts want the organisation to be bigger and more successful'

Haha, yes, sounds familiar.

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On 1/17/25 4:49 AM, D wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/16/25 10:52 AM, D wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)

 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...

Interesting! Was she very beautiful?

 Quite.

 But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
 and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
 remember her as she was.

Time is cruel! =(

Somebody should fix that.

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On 18/01/2025 03:51, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/17/25 4:49 AM, D wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

 But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
 and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
 remember her as she was.

Time is cruel! =(

  Somebody should fix that.

They should make a ;was against it. It's socially UNJUST! Woo!
--
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell

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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/17/25 4:49 AM, D wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 1/16/25 10:52 AM, D wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)

 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...

Interesting! Was she very beautiful?

 Quite.

 But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
 and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
 remember her as she was.

Time is cruel! =(

Somebody should fix that.

If you don't mind a bit of animated movies, I recommend the first season
of the series Pantheon which among other things, explores that theme. The second season is becoming a bit too emotional for me, but we'll see if it improves.

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